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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post
 

According to the graphs in that document it looks like the treble can only be increased, not decreased.


Yes I'm aware of that, I'm just thinking loudly hopefully giving digiZoid ideas. Decreasing highs also means you'd get more mids as a result, in case it's like v2.1 (more mid-forward, highs slightly rolled-off) vs v2.3 (slight v-shape signature with pushed back mids) then it could help to give a warmer fullier sound if highs would be decreased 1-2 steps so it would be quite useful and increase the chances of liking the sound. :)

So in case ZO3 would be V-shape sounding to begin with, the additional treble boosting won't do me any good for example as I'm more of a balanced mids & highs lover, don't like V-shape sound when mids gets pushed to the background, I prefer them fairly in your-face. So would be cool to have the possibility to go down to like -5dB on the highs or so maybe pushing mids to the front instead.

I would personally make it go at least 5 steps below "zero-level" with the highs, possibly 10 with 0.5dB steps, that would sound reasonable, 10 down, 22 up (it's not like you will need much more than 11dB treble boost)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/16/13 at 8:17am
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Unfortunately, most non-audiophiles favor a V-shaped signature.  There's evidence of this in the way that most pop songs are mastered these days.  Sharp highs and boomy lows are what the "average joe/jane" is looking for.

 

If you want forward mids and good bass I would suggest the Arrow amp or much of what Ray Samuels makes.

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If you want forward mids and good bass I would suggest the Arrow amp or much of what Ray Samuels makes.


But I need that 0.5dB step adjustment, Arrow is just 2 step setting so then I have to search for the suitable headphone to fit the bass boost options while besides that satisfy me in the mids and highs at the same time (almost impossible). I'm a perfectionist, I also master music on a daily basis, for me a 0.5-1dB variety can be the case of either liking or loving the sound...

 

With the current setup with Realtek ALC1150 onboard chip with onboard amps (never heard onboard sound anywhere near this quality before) + ZO2.1 @ "yellow" + Q40 I have pretty much my ideal balance, biiiig bassy with balanced mids & highs presence so I'm scared ZO3 might lead to a more unbalanced tonality with probably the new components used so therefore the more adjustability the bigger chance I will find my preferred balance again. :)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/16/13 at 8:31am
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At least it's easy to reduce treble using EQ. Boosting bass on the other had is more difficult because you can get distortion, which is why the ZO is so good - it can boost bass by insane amounts without distortion.

post #950 of 1016
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At least it's easy to reduce treble using EQ. Boosting bass on the other had is more difficult because you can get distortion, which is why the ZO is so good - it can boost bass by insane amounts without distortion.


But the prob is there's no good cheap nicely working EQ that would be system-wide. I use wasapi so then it gets even trickier. :) I've thought about purchasing some proper 200~$250 hardware 31-band EQ at some point though but they are kinda clumsy and not really optimized for headphone-use.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/16/13 at 12:37pm
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But the prob is there's no good cheap nicely working EQ that would be system-wide. I use wasapi so then it gets even trickier. :) I've thought about purchasing some proper 200~$250 hardware 31-band EQ at some point though but they are kinda clumsy and not really optimized for headphone-use.

 

Check this out: http://www.head-fi.org/t/683931/eq31-1-3-oct-graphics-equalizer-for-windows

 

I haven't tried it, but it looks like it might be good. Not sure if it'll work with wasapi though.

post #952 of 1016
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Check this out: http://www.head-fi.org/t/683931/eq31-1-3-oct-graphics-equalizer-for-windows

 

I haven't tried it, but it looks like it might be good. Not sure if it'll work with wasapi though.


Yea I know but it doesn't work with WASAPI. I think only VST EQ plugin in conjunction with a VST program works with WASAPI. But that's a bit of a hazzle to use.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/16/13 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by MizMoxie View Post

I promise... more details will be coming VERY VERY soon. Although I can't reveal too much right now, I can say it...
• Will have an anodized aluminum enclosure (not much bigger or heavier than ZO2)
• Have an OLED screen
• Over 1,000 different contours to choose from --> 32 levels for low frequencies (like ZO2) + 32 levels for high frequencies
• No high/low gain modes -- volume can be adjusted continuously from mute to max (even with a line-level input!)
• Headroom & output power will be MUCH higher
• NOISE-FREE! ;-)

 

Wow, that's ambitious! Can't wait to hear it!

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I've recently been looking for an amp for my IEMS (H-200) and was really getting interested in the ZO2 as there has been a lot of talk about. It is portable, would fit good with my cowon z2. But now they have ZO3 coming out I might just as well wait for that one instead. I checked their homepage but there wasn't anything to be found about the ZO3, any ideas when they will release some information about it? It seems they are totally silent about it. 

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Any updates MizMoxie?

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Any links where I can get a digizoid zo (version 1 or 2 doesn't matter to me and used or new also doesn't matter)?

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Any links where I can get a digizoid zo (version 1 or 2 doesn't matter to me and used or new also doesn't matter)?

Have you tried Amazon?
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Wow, that's ambitious! Can't wait to hear it!

 

We can't wait for you to hear it either... This baby is a *BIG* step up from previous ZOs in every aspect possible!! ;)

 

 

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I've recently been looking for an amp for my IEMS (H-200) and was really getting interested in the ZO2 as there has been a lot of talk about. It is portable, would fit good with my cowon z2. But now they have ZO3 coming out I might just as well wait for that one instead. I checked their homepage but there wasn't anything to be found about the ZO3, any ideas when they will release some information about it? It seems they are totally silent about it. 

 

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Any updates MizMoxie?

 

We've now got a temporary landing page for ZO3 on our website. It doesn't contain any product info yet (just a newsletter signup). For the moment it's just a placeholder until I get the word that the product design is concrete (which should be within the next couple days): http://www.digizoid.com/index.php?p=zo3

 

But... I'm actually in the process of setting up our first blog where Paul and I will be making frequent ZO3 progress updates (w/pics & all), post in-depth audio development discussions, AND give you guys first-looks at the enclosure, user interface, interfacing controls, etc. I will let you all know when the blog goes live, and we encourage as much feedback as you guys want to give via comments on these posts!! We love hearing from y'all, and like we did for the ZO2 development, we're looking for collaborative discussion on the product design (and who knows... beta testing privileges for those showing the most love may be in the future... wink wink) 

 

 

Paul's now to the point where SmartVektor FullSpec audio circuits are done & integrated, and he's now finalizing a few other things related to the high power amplifier circuit. Oh, yeah... did I mention yet that ZO3 is actually *two* amps in one? Yes, you read that right – SVT has been built on one set of opamps, and when it's turned off, it's essentially bypassing that circuitry, and it switches over to a different set of circuits that are your traditional headphone amplifier design!!

 

So with ZO3 you're getting 2 awesome products crammed into just 1 teeny-tiny device! And from the looks of it (no guarantees yet tho), it's gonna be smaller than the ZO2! Woot woot! :atsmile:

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Originally Posted by MizMoxie View Post
 

We've now got a temporary landing page for ZO3 on our website. It doesn't contain any product info yet (just a newsletter signup). For the moment it's just a placeholder until I get the word that the product design is concrete (which should be within the next couple days): http://www.digizoid.com/index.php?p=zo3

 

Sub'd :popcorn:

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Sub'd :popcorn:

 

x2. I am interested in this:

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Originally Posted by MizMoxie View Post
 

 

Paul's now to the point where SmartVektor FullSpec audio circuits are done & integrated, and he's now finalizing a few other things related to the high power amplifier circuit. Oh, yeah... did I mention yet that ZO3 is actually *two* amps in one? Yes, you read that right – SVT has been built on one set of opamps, and when it's turned off, it's essentially bypassing that circuitry, and it switches over to a different set of circuits that are your traditional headphone amplifier design!!

 

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