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post #331 of 1021
Count me as subscribed. I've only heard the latest version. I do like what it does for certain headphones but haven't yet tried it with my tv or my tiny travagan speakers.
post #332 of 1021
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

I seriously can't love without it now...0.0

Put it my Nokia Lumia 800...and it sounded plain and boring - put the ZO2 on it = LIFE TO MY MUSIC! DA HELL was I missing all these years 0.0!



Heh thinking of pairing it with my Nokia 800 as well. Btw Lumia 800 just got update that increased the bass and music quality a lot. 

 

Can't wait to hear how the ZO2 sounds with Sennheiser HD598. I got a feeling ZO2 might be overkill for my Denon AH-C710, but that's to be seen.

post #333 of 1021

Been playing with my zo since friday and I'm loving it. I have it hooked up to anything I use with a headphone port. Sounds amazing with my M80s, and decent with my Meelec M6s. Looking to update the meelecs to a sony ex310lp. Can anyone comment on the iem itself and also on how it sounds with the zo if they own both? Is there perhaps another better iem sub $100? I'm looking for something with a good bass emphasis but with nice clarity and detail. I love both punchy and rumbly bass, as long as it doesn't bleed.

 

Would be nice if the iem could be cradled in ear like the meelec, not sticking out. I just don't know how I'd google that particular feature lol.

post #334 of 1021
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Heh thinking of pairing it with my Nokia 800 as well. Btw Lumia 800 just got update that increased the bass and music quality a lot. 

 

Can't wait to hear how the ZO2 sounds with Sennheiser HD598. I got a feeling ZO2 might be overkill for my Denon AH-C710, but that's to be seen.


 

Yup Lumia 800 DID get the update - its quite nice, ESPECIALLY for the backlight and the battery life...

Battery life is INSANE now!

 

ZO2 + C710's = bass lovers dream come true.

I doubt you will survive, so I'll pray for you now.

 

post #335 of 1021
Thread Starter 

Here's some "analyzements"/theories I've ran through my head regarding this ZO device.

 

Since this device doesn't seem to have trouble with "double-amping" (at least compared to other traditional amps), especially two things came to my mind:

 

1) The importance of good quality source

2) Optimal benefit scenario? => I think 90~$150 source USB DAC or a good soundcard such as Titanium HD or ASUS STX paired with a midrange IEM/headphone which has the potential of turning this midrange headphone/IEM (say 80~$250 priceclass) into sounding well past the priceclass of an equally priced headphone.

 

I see that it generally gets nice reviews especially by the reputable people such as Mike from headphonia or that iPodwhatever guy. These tried them with quite good quality sources. The complaints comes usually those people with low quality sources, portable devices especially. This is why I think it's especially important to also have a quite good quality source when paired with ZO. The advantage of using LOD with this device seems reasonably small, only benefetting especially those low quality audio sources as say iPhones that doesn't have the best possible internal amping to it while if you pair it with a decent quality source, then using headphone jack + high gain possibly almost makes it sound better than using LOD + low gain. The fact that some people also have reported using 2 amps in succession even works quite well with ZO, it further strenghtens my assumptions of this theory.

 

Moral of the post: don't be afraid to double amp (use headphone jack) with this device as long as you're using a decent quality source (something reputable USB DAC $90+ or Cowon mp3 players, Titanium HD soundcard etc). Also at the same time this device may not be the optimal if looking into turning your (sorry for the word) crappy iPhone sounding a little less crappy (then other amps may be more fit). This device seems to have a very specific usage scenario when the result is nice but when you've found this "right" config the end result will be spectacular for $100 device.

 

 


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/6/12 at 1:16am
post #336 of 1021

You got a point with source - but also, these really vary with the earphones/headphones that are using the ZO2.

 

MDT's sound OK

MG7's sound absolutely revolutionary 

post #337 of 1021

Anyone use their ZO2 with BA based IEMs? Was looking at some hybrid IEMs with a dynamic driver for the lows and BA's for the mids and highs, but I don't have any BA's so I don't know how it will mesh with the ZO2. Anyone have any experience? I always hear how BA's may have a hiss sometimes since they are a bit more sensitive than a dynamic driver, which is my main concern.

 

Thanks for the help.

post #338 of 1021

I'm using it with BA earphones, both BAM (eQ5, Final Audio FI-BA-A1) and like SM3, SM2, and Sleek Audio CT7. In terms of hiss, every source and every amp in the world has hiss, it just depends on how sensitive your listening equipment is. Can your output earphones resolve the hiss? Are they that sensitive? The eQ5 and CT7 sure can, but it's not bad. In fact, the noise levels are very slightly lower than the ALO National amp. The only time I'd be annoyed by noise from the z02 is when listening to 'hardcore' IDM or space music where the only sound is the creaking of a chair or the dripping of a faucet every few minutes. The hiss (and I'm pretty sensitive (often called the hiss warrior)) is present, but it's on the good side of present, not the overwhelming side.

post #339 of 1021

That puts my mind at ease. Thanks. Was considering getting the Arrow 4G to pair with the IEM's, but now I can put off that purchase to a later point if I really want it. 
 

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I'm using it with BA earphones, both BAM (eQ5, Final Audio FI-BA-A1) and like SM3, SM2, and Sleek Audio CT7. In terms of hiss, every source and every amp in the world has hiss, it just depends on how sensitive your listening equipment is. Can your output earphones resolve the hiss? Are they that sensitive? The eQ5 and CT7 sure can, but it's not bad. In fact, the noise levels are very slightly lower than the ALO National amp. The only time I'd be annoyed by noise from the z02 is when listening to 'hardcore' IDM or space music where the only sound is the creaking of a chair or the dripping of a faucet every few minutes. The hiss (and I'm pretty sensitive (often called the hiss warrior)) is present, but it's on the good side of present, not the overwhelming side.



Also, I remembered I owned nice headphones and had a nice little session with the ZO2 and my D2K's.....mmmmm.....heaven :-)

post #340 of 1021

I've been pleasantly surprised by the z02. DFKT's AnyThingButiPod review was excellent and had me interested, but since I've had the thing in my hand, I've experience a new love. Last night with DT880 and DT1350 was incredible. Of course, the sound will depend a bit on the earphones you use as a final output. The eQ5 don't seem to respond quite as well as the others have so far, but I'm pretty impressed with them as well.

 

Again, hiss is present, but it isn't overpowering. If you have listened to and enjoyed something like an iPod nano 1-3, a Cowon D2, a Sansa Clip+, etc., and so on, you should know how much hiss to deal with. It isn't too much and is in line with rather well-regarded portable players and amps as well. For the price, I can't believe what I'm hearing.
 

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That puts my mind at ease. Thanks. Was considering getting the Arrow 4G to pair with the IEM's, but now I can put off that purchase to a later point if I really want it. 
 



Also, I remembered I owned nice headphones and had a nice little session with the ZO2 and my D2K's.....mmmmm.....heaven :-)



 

post #341 of 1021
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post

I've been pleasantly surprised by the z02. DFKT's AnyThingButiPod review was excellent and had me interested, but since I've had the thing in my hand, I've experience a new love. Last night with DT880 and DT1350 was incredible. Of course, the sound will depend a bit on the earphones you use as a final output. The eQ5 don't seem to respond quite as well as the others have so far, but I'm pretty impressed with them as well.

 

Again, hiss is present, but it isn't overpowering. If you have listened to and enjoyed something like an iPod nano 1-3, a Cowon D2, a Sansa Clip+, etc., and so on, you should know how much hiss to deal with. It isn't too much and is in line with rather well-regarded portable players and amps as well. For the price, I can't believe what I'm hearing.
 


Same here, DFKT's review was a good read :)

Also, agreed that its source + earphone sensitivity dependant.

 

That said, the E11, on my S1 had more hiss than my ZO2.

And the E5 was even worse in hissing than the E11..

 



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Originally Posted by kenman345 View Post

Also, I remembered I owned nice headphones and had a nice little session with the ZO2 and my D2K's.....mmmmm.....heaven :-)


oh yes - D2K's + orange contour = win

 

 

post #342 of 1021

I guess the current z03 has gone through a few iterations. I don't care which iteration I have, I just love this thing. 
 

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Same here, DFKT's review was a good read :)

Also, agreed that its source + earphone sensitivity dependant.

 

That said, the E11, on my S1 had more hiss than my ZO2.

And the E5 was even worse in hissing than the E11..

 


oh yes - D2K's + orange contour = win

 

 



 

post #343 of 1021
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post

I guess the current z03 has gone through a few iterations. I don't care which iteration I have, I just love this thing. 

that's the spirit !

post #344 of 1021

D2K's with gold plated copper wires :-) Chris_Himself did a sick job on them. How are your wood cups? I'm thinking of getting level 1 and level 2 done to mine to bring it up a notch
 

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

oh yes - D2K's + orange contour = win

 

 



 

post #345 of 1021
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Originally Posted by kenman345 View Post
 

D2K's with gold plated copper wires :-) Chris_Himself did a sick job on them. How are your wood cups? I'm thinking of getting level 1 and level 2 done to mine to bring it up a notch
 

 

 

 

I'm still annoyed that I have the wood cups staring at me but I have no beepin drill...

 

Bought some maple wood cups too (custom) - which should be here come 15days.

Cost me like $35 for the maple

and $50 for the D5k mahogany ones

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