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post #31 of 37

Thanks Danneq!  That really helps me out.   The pk2 seems very popular online, I've read mixed reviews of the soundstage, some people think its big, some think its pretty small.  Thats the main quality I'm looking for in a bud and why I'm comparing these.

 

How would you describe the pk2 compared to the akg or at?  Wider?  Taller?  More depth?  

 

I listen to a lot of music that has many things going on and gets trippy.  Thanks again, I actually came across some info you posted on another site, same avatar and everything, you seem to get the idea when it comes to 3d sound in a headphone.

post #32 of 37

If you are coming from IEM's, I suppose the soundstage of the PK2 might feel big. It is good for an earbud, but there are better.

 

My favorite out of the Yuin PK2, AKG K319 and ATH CM700 is the ATH. It has got good width and depth to the soundtage, but it is not very tall. I seldom think about how tall the soundstage is, but after comparing to other earbuds, the CM700 does feel limited in how tall the soundstage is. Like I said, I like it for it's depth and width together with good clarity.

The K319 has got a taller soundstage and about the same width. The depth and clarity however, seems to be slightly lower. There is a bit more lower end to the K319 than the CM700, which has got a leaner sound (probably why it appears to have more detail).

The PK2 is like the K319, but a bit more airy: pretty wide soundstage and taller than the CM700, but not as deep as the CM700.

 

If I could come with another suggestion, how about the Blox M2C? It is made by a small Chinese company and only made in small batches, so right now it is sold out. It has got a wide and tall soundstage and very good depth. However, I feel that it is not as detailed as for example the PK2. Still it slightly edges out the PK2 in my opinion. Blox is working on an improved version of the M2C, and apparently they are working on a high end earbud called BXIII. Don't know when that's out, though...

 

If you can find Creative Aurvana Air for a good price (around $100) it might be a good investment. The Head-fi member ClieOS, who knows a lot about different earbuds had this to say about it:

 

 

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 Aurvana Air reminds me of Audio Technica earbuds (the old CM series) - lean, neutral, detail, and airy with a really good soundstage. It doesn't have anywhere near to best of bass but it has really good speed and impact. It is the kind of earbuds that makes acoustic, instrument and classical sounds really good.

Aurvana Air was never quite a popular earbuds because Creative set the MSRP too high ($250~$300 IIRC). The current price drop ($99) is typical of the company trying to make a quick buck to clean out stock, which also makes the not-quite-popular earbuds becomes even rarer - that is unless you are in Singapore where the stock is always plenty as most of the local doesn't want to buy local.

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/531063/earbud-guide-12-earbuds-compared/360#post_7936652

 

 

 

I suppose you came across me at Anything but iPod? I sometimes hang out there as well. But there are more earbud discussions here. I've never been into IEM's, and with the earbud market being so small these days, there are not many places to discuss or read reviews on earbuds.

 

I have recently become enamoured with old Sony and Aiwa earbuds from the 80ies and 90ies. They can definitively measure up to modern earbuds. I have to say that the best soundstage with the most detail I have ever heard in an earbud is the Aiwa HP-D9 (made 1990-1995). It is very lean on bass, but oh, such depth in the soundstage and such amazing instrument separation! I treat my D9 like a full size headphone - I never take it out of the house, since it deserves to be listened to in a quiet environment. I was lucky to get my pair for 111 euro (they came with a broken Aiwa DAT-recorder that I have no use for, just wanted the earbuds). I have seen them go for as much as 300 euro! But they are quite rare nowadays, seeing that they have been discontinued for 16 years...

A comparison between the Aiwa HP-D9 and the old Sony earbud MDR-E262 (made 1984-1987) can be found here. It is amazing that even if technology has advanced in 25 years, the sound of earbuds really hasn't...

 

 

post #33 of 37
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havent heard the yuins, but i own the mx580, mx980 and k319. i will sell the senns and keep the k319. it beats the mxc580 easily in every aspect. the mx980 is another beast, it really is worth the price, because it offers the most details. but, its a typical senn with bloated bass, and its quite slow. the akg is nearly as fast as an balanced armature in ear, not that thick in note and hast the best instrument separation and imaging of the bunch. so i make the little compromise, that it offers slightly less details than the mx980.

post #34 of 37

Dang! I have been looking around, and it seems like AKG discontinued the K319 as late last year! They released a new K313 and the K318, but no real replacement for the K319. So if you want the only earbud that AKG offers that can compete with the best of the Sennheisers and Yuins, it's best to get it before it sells out!

post #35 of 37

Ok cool that is perfect.  Thanks guys.  Sorry for temporarily hijacking the thread.  

 

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Dang! I have been looking around, and it seems like AKG discontinued the K319 as late last year! They released a new K313 and the K318, but no real replacement for the K319. So if you want the only earbud that AKG offers that can compete with the best of the Sennheisers and Yuins, it's best to get it before it sells out!

 

 

 

 

I might as well leave these here before my browser explodes from so many tabs open..

 

AKG k319 is $98.98 + shipping http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM5960835007P?sid=IDx20101019x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM5960835007

 

Also a seller on amazon UK - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001F6K1S4/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

 

 

The Aurvana Air is $75 on Amazon and has a nice looking case http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002DTZEXE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A286IZ33TR5AUQ

 

The PK2 is also on Amazon for $79.99.

 

ATH CM 707 is $109 + shipping http://www.accessoryjack.com/audio-technica-ath-cm707-earsuit-headphone-short-cord-black.html

 

The AKG and ATs seem kinda hard to come by, Audiocubes sell the ATs but a little more expensive than accesoryjack.

 

I think I will give the Aurvana Airs a shot if those ear hooks are removable.  

 

 

post #36 of 37

A lot to choose from! I do not think that the hooks are removable. Well, I wouldn't know since I haven't seen them in real life. But they seem to have the sound that you're after and $75 is a very good price indeed!

 

post #37 of 37

I'll throw in the Hisound Live earbuds. Balanced and neutral with a big stage and nice detail. I think it is $100.

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