Short answer to the original question of this thread: YES. easily
These are amongst the most neutral of all cans in my opinion. They are the pinnacle of neutrality and detail. They rival or surpass orthodynamics in this regard.
This single achievement IMO renders any other superficial faults meaningless.
The bass is so detailed, layered, quick and textured that it is meaningless that the sound doesn't produce the kind of thump a Senn would. The thump is easily achievable with EQ or DSP, it is the detail that is truly important, not the volume of the specific frequencies.
IMO this can destroys everything at this price range, including open cans. In terms of detail, it rivals the Senn HD800. Nuff said!
Can't tell if serious or joking.
These are not neutral. Huge bass hole and to much treble. Vocals sound very unnatural to me. The shure srh840 is much better at $130.