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Shure SE535 or Westone 4R [For] Dubstep? House? Metalcore?

post #1 of 21
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I understand there both great IEM's, and of course, it's all about musical sounding preference to personal opinion, but i just wanted to know what IEM's would be better for listening to these sort of genres of music and what you think [know] would sound better on said headphones:


Shure SE535 or Westone 4R

- What IEM's [in you opinion] are suited for these sort of bands:

* Skrillex
* Coldplay
* Enter Shikari
* Nero
* Deftones
* Pendulum
* Florance + the Machine
* Lana Del Rey
* Adele
* Sigur Ros
* Portishead
* Telefon Tel Aviv
* Machine Head
* Evanescence

Thank you :)

Other IEM's which you know might be best suited for the bands listed above could be: Grado: GR10/Phonak: Audéo PFE 232/Sennheiser IE8i

Edited by Lucivar Yaslana - 1/3/12 at 7:09am
post #2 of 21

The Sennheisers are FAR better suited to those genres than any other iem you listed. There's a brand new, unopened IE80 for sale here

post #3 of 21

I agree. The sennheisers would suit you best

post #4 of 21

Maybe consider the W3 over the W4?  I recently purchased a used set of W3 for EDM as well and I couldnt be happier.  It was exactly what i was looking for.  I am not a bass head and was looking for something with more bass bump than my HF3.  The W3 still maintains good highs and mids that i wanted while producing much punchier bass.  Overall i have to say i was very happy with my purchase. 

post #5 of 21

triple 10s would suit too

post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by tannerbnd View Post

triple 10s would suit too


Seconded. I love my TF10s for just about every genre and think they perform admirably with Dubstep and pretty much any kind of EDM.

post #7 of 21


* Florance + the Machine
* Lana Del Rey
* Adele
* Evanescence
 

I listen to the above 4 daily on the W4R and W4 and UM3X RC. They sound great on both for different reasons. Couldn't tell you how the others you listed would sound on the W4, but Florence and the Machine, Lana Del Rey, Adele, and Evanescence will sound grand.

 

A word about the TF10 - the TF10 is a cost effective alternative, but realize they [logitech] no longer offers warranty replacements for the TF10. So if they break, you'll get a lesser quality replacement. 

post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lucivar Yaslana View Post

Shure SE535 or Westone 4R

- What IEM's [in you opinion] are suited for these sort of bands:

* Skrillex
* Coldplay
* Enter Shikari
* Nero
* Deftones
* Pendulum
* Florance + the Machine
* Lana Del Rey
* Adele
* Sigur Ros
* Portishead
* Telefon Tel Aviv
* Machine Head
* Evanescence

 

That's quite a diverse list. There's no such thing as one pair of IEM best suited for all of this.

 

Certainly it would be more effective if you tried to describe what you expect when you hear music, with your own words.

Examples: do you expect strong bass, forward vocals, do you like drums ? Do you want music to sound very close to you, or do you prefer more a concert-like sound ?

Things like this will help us to propose IEMs... at the moment people are just throwing everything they have used to listen music in your list. wink.gif

 

 

And just a remark: if you're willing to invest in a very expensive pair of Westone 4R, you could afford the Special Edition of SE535s, which will be nicer than standard SE535s. I'm not saying you should choose one or the other. Westone UM3X could also be another alternative, they're not technically inferior to 4Rs or SE535SE, they just have a different sound signature.
 

 

post #9 of 21

 

Just bought the Westone 4R, and i would like to say the sound is incredible nice! It is Superb!

 

Here are my impression on it.

 

First of all i would like to say that this iem sound signature is very similar to my LCD2r2. If you like LCD2r2 sound signature you will love this iem definitely!

 

Before i purchased the Westone 4R, i had compared it to Westone UM3X and Shure 535 (normal edition).

 

UM3X is very similar to Shure 535 but slightly better than Shure 535, which i could say is UM3X > = Shure 535. The bass quality is about the same; STRONG. But when comes to clarity of background details which is very very minor light/low mid, the Shure 535 sounds muddy compare to UM3X. UM3X is better than Shure 535 in this section. The bass quality i felt coloration of the Shure 535 and UM3X which i considered not a nature bass.

 

Built quality (including cables) of course goes to Shure 535 side but it doesn't meant that UM3X is cheap. Therefore, your money is half into sound quality and half into figure/outlook quality for Shure 535 but not for Westone UM3X

 

On the other hands, IMHO the sound signature from Shure 535 and UM3X will fatigue your ear in long listening. (which i found nice through Westone 4R)

 

When i plug Westone 4R into my ears... I smile... Because this is the sound quality that i want and this is what I CALL SOUND QUALITY.

 

The Bass of Westone 4R is not as strong as Shure 535 and UM3X but in my opinion this is so call BASS. So nature... it sounds when it comes, it sounds when the recordings were made to be sounded in that way. Build quality is better than UM3X for sure, but i felt that build quality of Westone 4R is still losing itself if compare to Shure 535. Soundstage as others head-fiers mentioned before; Bigger, and of course i feel the same way. Separation is the best compare to UM3X and Shure 535, easily win hands down. I could hear into very minor and detail sound signature even i am using it without a portable DAC and amp. It sounds just like my LCD2r2 paired with my Audio-GD 10SE... Darn! To be frank, i felt that this little tiny earphone sounds better than my LCD2r2, because i have listened background sounds that i do not listen through my LCD2r2 before. I was shocked and surprise. Hmm... maybe due to IEM (In-ear monitor) and it isolates 95% of noise and it was plug inside to my ears hole.. perhaps it is not my fantasy.

 

So? My conclusion is in this way: Westone 4R is much much better than the others two. Which i said the equation of them were: Westone 4R >>>>> [Westone UM3X >= Shure 535] 

 

Cheers~

 

I am sorry to my Wallet! Darn!

 

Jyh

post #10 of 21

IMO, I'd take an Earsonic SM3V2 over the others. IMHO, the Westone 4's were a bit too flat, and the SE535's sound 'can-be-abit-better-ish'. I removed the filters off my SM3, and the soundstage got smaller (that's a given) but the highs now extend higher then I remember with the Westone 4's and the bass has more kick in it too. The SM3 didn't sound as creamy as the Westone 4 during guitar solos though. But it's good enough. :)

post #11 of 21

TF10 and W3 would probably suit your genres better

post #12 of 21

westone 4 i use both. for pure listening i use the w4 but for actual djing of said material i have to use the 535's over the w4

post #13 of 21

Iv'e found my Sennheiser IE8's and IE80's more suited to that type of genre selection you have (your preferences are like a mirror of mine) I have been able to compare the Shure SE535 to my senns. And in my opinion the Senns won. However I beilieve you'll like the Shure's more.

post #14 of 21

As an owner of the 535s, I can say for certain that you definitely won't be disappointed with the lush mids when it comes to artists such as adele. Yet on the other hand, because of the mid-centric signature of the 535s and overly smooth mids, the major flaw i find with my 535s is that the bass is lacking detail and quality to give an edge to bass heavy genres like rock. Moreover, the early treble roll off makes reproduction of higher frequencies very unsatisfying to listen to IMO.  Ultimately, they fall short in delivering the energy of such songs to the listener. 

 

Although i don't own the westone 4, I have tried out my friend's pairs enough times to give me a reasonable impression of their sonic qualities. Where details, soundstage, instrumental separation is concern, you can't go wrong with the westone 4. However, they lack the intimate presentation of the shure 535s. The westone 4 can be regarded as quite close to neutral and accurate in this aspect. 

 

Whenever it comes to higher end iems, or any audio product for instance, it all boils down to how you want your music to be presented. Hence, GO DOWN TO THE NEAREST HEADPHONE AND TRY EVERYTHING OUT. Thats the best piece of advice I can give to you.

post #15 of 21
Like Randomosity said, the best thing is to try all of them out. At this price range all are strong performers but the choice will be based on your preference. I personally like the UM3X the best from amongst the ones being discussed.
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