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post #886 of 3300
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I actually did find the T1s a bit more palatable than the HE-6s. 

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I've never tried a T1, but I did struggle a bit with the treble peaks of the HD800 before I was able to tame them. But ultimately, I stopped reaching for them as they failed to connect with me emotionally. I find the HE6 to be just behind the SR009 for treble extension and smoothness, neither have any peakiness that bothers me on my system.

 

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post #888 of 3300
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I've never tried a T1, but I did struggle a bit with the treble peaks of the HD800 before I was able to tame them. But ultimately, I stopped reaching for them as they failed to connect with me emotionally. I find the HE6 to be just behind the SR009 for treble extension and smoothness, neither have any peakiness that bothers me on my system.

 

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I found the HE-6's treble energy just too much. Not peaky like say on a Grado, but "off kilter". The SR-009s are about as perfect as treble I've heard. The LCD-3's treble is actually fantastically extended and smooth.

post #889 of 3300
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What treble energy?

 

I find both the T1's and HD800's are significantly brighter, though not bright as such IMO, than a well driven/amped HE-6's. I have even added a silver cable to make mine brighter, although I have also done the same with the HD800's and LCD2.2's wink_face.gif

This treble energy:

 

The T1's spike is up higher (around 10kHz) and isn't as broad of as the HE-6s. I found the HE-6's treble too much for my liking.

 

They didn't have enough current pumping through them when that graph was taken, the HE6 does smooth out considerably with more power. That's my story and I'm sticking with it!

post #890 of 3300
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They didn't have enough current pumping through them when that graph was taken, the HE6 does smooth out considerably with more power. That's my story and I'm sticking with it!

LoL.. you go it thing Vince! Glad you're enjoying your SR-009s. Saw your rankings of them on that other thread. Simply outstanding cans!

 

FWIW, out of my brother's McIntosh amp, I still felt the same about the HE-6s and sold them shortly thereafter. Glad you're digging them.

post #891 of 3300

Too much 009 talk.  I can literally see my wallet bleeding beside me :P

post #892 of 3300
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Too much 009 talk.  I can literally see my wallet bleeding beside me :P

Regis...buddy...was I right about the GS-X? Trust me on the SR-009s. tongue.gif

post #893 of 3300

i think the he6 is an excellent can when powered by a properly functioning

and correctly biased vintage pioneer sa9100. it scales much better than

the lcd2.2; not even in the same arena actually. but the lcd3 is in the

same breath as the he6 with even less current being delivered. both

excels in resolution and transparency. the he6 being mid treble tilted

and the lcd3 being mid bass tilted. i didn't notice much treble etch

when powered by the reconditioned sa9100 (even on diana krall albums)

and the lcd3 doesn't suffer from one-note bleeding bass when fed

sufficient current.

 

as great as the he6 is, i couldn't get past the thinner sound when

compared to the lcd3, especially listening to piano and other string

instruments. it's like going from yamaha cf series to the bosendorfer cs

series. of course no one would characterize the yamaha cf series to

be thin sounding, but only when compared to the bosendorfer cs.

post #894 of 3300

To my ears, on my system, the HE6 is dead solid neutral, smooth, detailed, extended and dynamic with engaging mids. I can find no fault with them.

 

The009, which shares all of these traits, is on another level. They are positively ethereal with a decent recording, and not a torture device with lesser ones.

Nice trick beerchug.gif


Edited by grokit - 6/5/13 at 7:19pm
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To my ears, on my system, the HE6 is dead solid neutral, smooth, detailed, extended and dynamic with engaging mids. I can find no fault with them.

 

The009, which shares all of these traits, is on another level. They are positively ethereal with a decent recording, and not a torture device with lesser ones.

Nice trick beerchug.gif

We'll agree to disagree on the HE-6s, but the SR-009s are bang on.

 

Now to bring us back on topic: So are the LCD-3s. 

post #896 of 3300
To be completely honest, I feel almost all models of planar magnetic headphones seem to have minor variances between each other (probably because they are relatively small niche brands (but growing quite fast).

I've experienced different sounding HE400's/500's/LCD2's on many occasions. Same could be said with LCD3's because of the different seasonal batches and RMA's. I also find my HE6 to be warmer than my friend/coworker's own if I don't use the LCD3 pads with them.

The only modern orthos that have never had issues with sound variation to me are the Fostex T50RP's and the HE4/5
post #897 of 3300

Frequency graphs are pretty poiintless. The sound of the headphone will change depending on the amp it is connected to, therefore the frequency graph of the headphone would also change else the phone would always be the same brighness/darkness regardless of the amp being used and we all know that is not the case.

Even different frequency graph machines can give different results with the same headphone.

 

I would just say that in my system the T1's and HD800's are significantly brighter sounding than the HE6's.  wink.gif

post #898 of 3300
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Regis...buddy...was I right about the GS-X? Trust me on the SR-009s. tongue.gif

 

You best have a spare guest room ready in that there reno you are doing then :P

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Frequency graphs are pretty poiintless. The sound of the headphone will change depending on the amp it is connected to, therefore the frequency graph of the headphone would also change else the phone would always be the same brighness/darkness regardless of the amp being used and we all know that is not the case.

Even different frequency graph machines can give different results with the same headphone.

 

I would just say that in my system the T1's and HD800's are significantly brighter sounding than the HE6's.  wink.gif

 

I've pointed this out many of times when talking HE-6.  This comes down to subjective objective measuring.  Especially when the measurements of the HE-6 was taking on a headroom ampeek.gif  I would say that's false representation.

 

The HE-6 in my setup - the F1J a "current" driven amp, combined with the PWD mkII  will rival any dynamic / SS setup out there.   You'd have to get into big buck tube amps to compete.  I think wuwhere has monster tube amps driving his HE-6.  

 

Now the HD800s and the GS-X mkII makes the above (1 and 1a) most of the times.  As for the LCD-3.  While it sounds really, good on the GS-X mkII,  From memory, I still think I preferred it with the Mojo, Although I'd have to have it back in house to be sure.  Waiting on the Schiit Statement to have another pile of Schiit in the house..  


Edited by preproman - 6/6/13 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Regis...buddy...was I right about the GS-X? Trust me on the SR-009s. tongue.gif

 

 

I'm on that journey now.  This year having a KGSSHV-DX built, next yeah I'll try to purchase the 009s.  Long way away..

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