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Yep the foam is the foam behind the external grill, I only suggest taking the grill off, removing the foam which is easy and reversible in a flash. So you can have a play, I ended up putting mine back.

 

Yep I am waiting on a 430HA but that's for my partner so I can get her off my system. Its an entirely self centred move :wink_face:

 

Like this?

 

Do I need to worry about those wires touching the grill?

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Yeah like that, but my wires go around the bottom of the driver on both sides.

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Yep, or you could listen Witheriff the grills, try both
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Originally Posted by isquirrel View Post


Yep the foam is the foam behind the external grill, I only suggest taking the grill off, removing the foam which is easy and reversible in a flash. So you can have a play, I ended up putting mine back.

Yep I am waiting on a 430HA but that's for my partner so I can get her off my system. Its an entirely self centred move wink_face.gif

Yip. Just like you. I tried the foam removal for 15 minutes then reinstalled. Too bright and it lost that Audeze house sound.
I prefer the foam.
Was worth a try tho.
post #3605 of 3614
^ Yep, worth a try for sure.

I saw a discussion somewhere round here recently (not this thread; don't have the link sorry) about Audezes and impedance and (amplifier) damping factor IIRC. A statement was made that orthodynamics need mechanical rather than electrical damping - and that the foam and stuff is needed and tailored to provide it.

FWIW. I have no understanding of the science or engineering involved and couldn't assess the credibility of the statement! And I'm the last person to discourage experimentation wink.gif
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Ok so I just got a pair of lambskin LCD-3s... I'm finding them very uncomfortable. LCD-2s were fine comfortwise up until maybe 5-6 hours of continuous use, but these are bothering me after 20 minutes. It seems like the "hole" is smaller than the LCD-2, so my ears are getting squished (my ears stick out a bit from my head). Any solutions? Would the micro-suede make a difference?

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Yip. Just like you. I tried the foam removal for 15 minutes then reinstalled. Too bright and it lost that Audeze house sound.
I prefer the foam.
Was worth a try tho.

 

Is that with the 3Cs or 3Fs. 

 

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Well many people started dropping the foam and use more open grills/no grills at all in their Hifiman headphones long time ago. Eventually Hifiman dropped it in their new products too. 


Edited by negura - Yesterday at 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

^ Yep, worth a try for sure.

I saw a discussion somewhere round here recently (not this thread; don't have the link sorry) about Audezes and impedance and (amplifier) damping factor IIRC. A statement was made that orthodynamics need mechanical rather than electrical damping - and that the foam and stuff is needed and tailored to provide it.

FWIW. I have no understanding of the science or engineering involved and couldn't assess the credibility of the statement! And I'm the last person to discourage experimentation wink.gif

 

I have read something similar, but with the difference that Audeze is using mechanical damping and Hifiman not. I think it was Jerg that wrote it.

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Originally Posted by isquirrel View Post

Yep, or you could listen Witheriff the grills, try both

 

I ended up putting everything back. With foam and grill off, I get more space but to my ears, it lost details and Audeze sounds. 

But good to give it a go!

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Is that with the 3Cs or 3Fs. 

It is the LCD3c. To me it didn't add much soundstage but killed the Audeze midrange house sound. That is what I like the most so I was never going to sacrifice that. wink.gif
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I ended up putting mine back as well. Fun to play around with though. Interesting that we have all had the same findings.

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It is the LCD3c. To me it didn't add much soundstage but killed the Audeze midrange house sound. That is what I like the most so I was never going to sacrifice that. wink.gif

 

 

Yeah - I don't know about the 3Cs. 

 

The soundstage and imaging gained significantly on the 3Fs. Treble detail and clarity too. More of a flagship technically too, imho. The Audeze house sound is unmistakenly there - these certainly don't sound more like my Hifiman or Stax. :)


Edited by negura - Today at 1:30 pm
post #3613 of 3614

I preferred the C actually. Not the original C mind you. The new C drivers I got in earlier 2014 were a significant improvement over the C drivers I got in early 2013. Much better clarity and soundstaging but still had that slammin' 50-ohm C bass. Too bad both C drivers destroyed themselves instead of my ears.

 

So I shed a little tear for that slammin' bass when I got the F drivers, it seems to be missing the bottom octave. However the F still sounds fantastic and its clarity is even better than the 2014 C. I feel I can appreciate the new F sound for what it is, it doesn't give every song big bass, only the songs that already have big bass will have big bass, and that's more accurate.

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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

Here is a review I did of the LCD3f - Anyone has any questions let me know. 

 

I loved the headphone in the end but it took me a while to come around. 

 

http://headphone.guru/audeze-lcd-3f/  


It took me a while to get to your review, two threads for LCD3's (new for fazor and impressions both f and c) doesn't help.

 

A very nice review, and agree with your take on LCD3F (Classic Rock) vs. HD800 (Acoustic)

 

Try the LCD3F with well recorded rap, exceptional resonance and bass extension ex. Gorillaz album "Demon Days" the cut "Kids With Guns"

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