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post #2656 of 4457
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

Same here. I have my HD 800s for clarity. The LCDs for me are just about sweetness and lushness smily_headphones1.gif

 

LCD-3F mids are sweet, more present and detailed, just that they don't have a treble roll off compared to the clasic. Imaging is a lot better, soundstage is more homogenous. They have more attack. In my case I like bass a lot, but if that means no air, then it's a problem for me. The LCD-3F has better tonality, instrumental and orchestra is much better than it was before, violins are much more convincing, they were too thick pre-fazor.  The mids did have a wow factor for me.


Edited by mowglycdb - 5/13/14 at 6:24am
post #2657 of 4457

The thing is I like the thick, more intimate sound of the LCD-3C. Again, if I want soundstage and air I have the HD 800s :)

post #2658 of 4457
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post
 

The thing is I like the thick, more intimate sound of the LCD-3C. Again, if I want soundstage and air I have the HD 800s :)

I have only heard the 3F at a noisy show so really can't say how different they are.  The thing that seems strange to me is that there has almost never been an audio component so universally praised as the LCD-3 and yet they tampered with it and kept the change very quiet.  For people who are after the faster, lighter sound, the LCD-X was available.

post #2659 of 4457
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post
 

The thing is I like the thick, more intimate sound of the LCD-3C. Again, if I want soundstage and air I have the HD 800s :)

 

The LCD-3F is intimate too (a little bit less than the 3C given that it's darker), but the soundstage is just as intimate just that the soundstage is more correctly done, PD: I mean imaging.

 

Soundstage and imaging was an improvement in the 3F, but if you could keep the same frequency response and more sub-bass plus the imaging and soundstage, you could call it LCD-3 Bass edition =P


Edited by mowglycdb - 5/13/14 at 6:54am
post #2660 of 4457

I went to listen to the LCD 3F in a store a few days ago. They had a Sennheiser HDV-D800 as amp/dac and also the LCD X and HD 800. It was IMO clear that the LCD 3F have a warmer and more intimate sound when the LCD X and HD 800 in this setup. To me the LCD 3F have more and better bass and midrange than the HD 800 as well. The HD 800 has IMHO a more open sound and soundstage, but doesn’t have the body, soul and tonality of the LCD 3F, so they don’t sound nearly the same.  I was surprised that the LCD X didn’t sound better. To me they sound pretty flat and boring, maybe Sennheiser HDV-D800 wasn’t a good paring.

 

The biggest change to the classic in SQ, if I were to describe what I heard, was a clearer mid with a bit more upper mid energy. I have to remand you all of that the setup was different to my home rig and I didn’t have the LCD 3C at hand, but never the less it’s my impression that they still performed very well. If one will like it better than the LCD 3C will probably dependent on how one like the extra energy and clarity in the upper mids combined with the slightly reduced sub bass and of course ones downstream gear.

post #2661 of 4457
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Originally Posted by mscott58 View Post
 

Yep, the LCD-3C is for the pre-Fazorized "Classic". So units before the 271XXXX SN's. 

 

My pair is a 261XXXX from 02/2014 and they are fazored. They were also shipped to my retailer with another pair that was 271XXXX, both manufactured at the same time. So it's not correct to say that what came before 271 is not fazored. I'm not sure there is actually anything specifically different between 271s and all 261s, maybe they just decided it was time to change prefix.

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^ Why does this not surprise me biggrin.gif
post #2663 of 4457
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Originally Posted by Chikolad View Post
 

 

My pair is a 261XXXX from 02/2014 and they are fazored. They were also shipped to my retailer with another pair that was 271XXXX, both manufactured at the same time. So it's not correct to say that what came before 271 is not fazored. I'm not sure there is actually anything specifically different between 271s and all 261s, maybe they just decided it was time to change prefix.

How can you tell if they are fazored by looking at them?

post #2664 of 4457
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

How can you tell if they are fazored by looking at them?

You can open up the cups and peer inside.  If the magnets have peaks they are fazored....if they are flat they are not.  

post #2665 of 4457
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

You can open up the cups and peer inside.  If the magnets have peaks they are fazored....if they are flat they are not.  

Mine has flat plastic slats. Not fazored, right?

post #2666 of 4457
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

You can open up the cups and peer inside.  If the magnets have peaks they are fazored....if they are flat they are not.  

 

What he said, plus you can just feel through the inside of the cups and notice the peaks.

post #2667 of 4457
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

Mine has flat plastic slats. Not fazored, right?

Do you mean the aluminum plate with slits on the outside of the cup?   There should be 4 screws to take it off so you can look inside. 

post #2668 of 4457
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

Do you mean the aluminum plate with slits on the outside of the cup?   There should be 4 screws to take it off so you can look inside. 

 

No, I mean looking inside the inside of the leather earcup, under the fabric. 

post #2669 of 4457
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

Do you mean the aluminum plate with slits on the outside of the cup?   There should be 4 screws to take it off so you can look inside.

There is no need to open anything.  You can feel the v shaped fazor slats just under the cloth that goes against your ear.  If you look closely you can probably see it through the cloth since it is quite pourous.  Non-Fazored feels like - - - -, fazored feels like ^-^-^.


Edited by donlin - 5/15/14 at 1:44pm
post #2670 of 4457
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Originally Posted by Chikolad View Post
 

 

My pair is a 261XXXX from 02/2014 and they are fazored. 

Interesting. So it sounds like if the LCD-3 SN is 271XXXX then it is definitely Fazorized, but if it's 261XXXX it might be if it was near the end of that run? Guess that feeling the inside of the earcup is the easiest and best way to tell! 

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