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post #2191 of 2834
If you don't notice it that much then it means that overall you have less bass impact and bass body smily_headphones1.gif
post #2192 of 2834
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

That I find hard to believe smily_headphones1.gif

 

And yet for the two LCD-3 and three LCD-2 I have owned that has been the case.

post #2193 of 2834

tug of war decision  lcd-3 vs lcd-x  - went for the lcd -3 . blind buy for me as i cant audition either 

post #2194 of 2834

Audeze didn't do themselves any favours pricing them so closely.  But who knows maybe there is a price bump coming for the LCD-3 to reassert that it is the top performer.

post #2195 of 2834
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

That I find hard to believe smily_headphones1.gif

 

And yet for the two LCD-3 and three LCD-2 I have owned that has been the case.


not really unbelievable, having a source, amp, with recessed but quick punchy sub bass and bass and a very grainy treble and with overall less detail would make the 2 and 3 more similar than different

 

but what would be the point of having such lo-fi chain for 1k$+ cans :confused:

 

the lcd2 and lcd3 are very different indeed, on a competent chain

 

don't know what's the reason of so much debate, fuss, about the lcd2 being more punchy than the 3s, it's a fact, just look at their respective measurements

 

than again lcd3 does have more bass presence, especially in the sub bass, and it's more fun, liquid quick, more detailed

 

for those that looks for a better lcd2 and reach for the 3 as an upgrade, they might find it being an overall better can but consistently different in sound from the lcd2, and not liking the lcd3 sound, than it's hardly an upgrade from the 2

 

so far i found the lcd3 to be the more realistic sounding, and most emotional pair of cans i had to date in my setup

 

waiting for the he-6 to arrive, from looking at the measurements it's not difficult to tell that the lcd3 and he-6, and probably the lcd-x too, are indeed the "poor man's" stax sr-009

post #2196 of 2834
I think the Lcd3 and X are more of a "poorman's" Sr007 mk1.He-6 yes those are more alongside the 009 sound signature. As useful as measurements are it is not easy drawing the complete picture.
Edited by negura - 1/1/14 at 10:08am
post #2197 of 2834
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Originally Posted by roskodan View Post
 

don't know what's the reason of so much debate, fuss, about the lcd2 being more punchy than the 3s, it's a fact, just look at their respective measurements

 

And what part of the measurements suggest to you that the LCD-2 is punchier?

post #2198 of 2834

I still have my LCD-2's but hadn't really listened to them since I got the 3's, until a few days ago.  On my setup the LCD-2's sound very good, but the 3's are another level in every regard (I care about).

 

When evaluating bass, I like to listen to something that has bass created from a synthesizer, but also something that has bass created from an analog, especially acoustic source.  I listen to the latter because I want to hear the the bass note in its entirety, eg., from the time the string is plucked until I can't hear the note anymore.  For me, LCD-3's are again, on another level in this department.  Bass notes sound more natural and have better extension.  As far as how hard bass hits and how deep it goes, LCD-3's just play what's there.

 

These Audeze's aren't like lesser headphones a lot of us have had.  Source, amplification, and even cables make a difference in the way they sound.


Edited by OPR8R - 1/1/14 at 10:38am
post #2199 of 2834
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I think the Lcd3 and X are more of a "poorman's" Sr007 mk1.

 

Yup.  The LCD-2 Rev1 sent my O2 Mk1 out the door because they were cut from the same cloth but the O2 headband was was a torture device so... gone.

post #2200 of 2834
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Yup.  The LCD-2 Rev1 sent my O2 Mk1 out the door because they were cut from the same cloth but the O2 headband was was a torture device so... gone.

 

That is typical assessment on suboptimal downstream. The LCD-2s sound decent out of anything. On a higher-end system it's exactly the opposite. The 007MKI showed the LCD-3s the door.

 

Fitting is personal. Many people don't like the Audeze for example. I never had any confort problems with any headphones including Audeze. I guess I am just very average.


Edited by negura - 1/1/14 at 10:37am
post #2201 of 2834

For me the O2 just didn't have the drive of the Audeze.  As for downstream, it wasn't summit fi but it was a HeadAmp KGSS and Stello DA220 mk2.

post #2202 of 2834
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

For me the O2 just didn't have the drive of the Audeze.  As for downstream, it wasn't summit fi but it was a HeadAmp KGSS and Stello DA220 mk2.

 

Well you named it. You may be surprised how lively and engaging they are on your PWD2 and with something like a KGSSHV.

 

That's not to dis the LCD-3s - I really enjoyed them. It's just that I think the 007 MK1 are better headphones, but unfortunately out of production.

post #2203 of 2834

Yup.  And Stax needs to work out some better headband designs ;)  I had the metal arcs touching the top of my head and since the elastic under it pulls down... ouch/interesting hair impressions :P  But in a world where the HD650 was top dog... worth it!  If not for eventually knowing I would sell for another Stax or something else down the road I would have punched holes into the elastic to relieve some pressure.  To be fair I do change the arc on the Audeze cans so that you have to be 12 and older to wear them.  Why the headband has enough clamp that my 5 year can wear them, I never understood.  Can't be that much of a market for wealthy parents buying their toddlers LCD headphones /facepalm

post #2204 of 2834
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Originally Posted by OPR8R View Post
 

I still have my LCD-2's but hadn't really listened to them since I got the 3's, until a few days ago.  On my setup the LCD-2's sound very good, but the 3's are another level in every regard (I care about).

 

When evaluating bass, I like to listen to something that has bass created from a synthesizer, but also something that has bass created from an analog, especially acoustic source.  I listen to the latter because I want to hear the the bass note in its entirety, eg., from the time the string is plucked until I can't hear the note anymore.  For me, LCD-3's are again, on another level in this department.  Bass notes sound more natural and have better extension.  As far as how hard bass hits and how deep it goes, LCD-3's just play what's there.

 

These Audeze's aren't like lesser headphones a lot of us have had.  Source, amplification, and even cables make a difference in the way they sound.

yes, the lcd3 are strangely darker and more detailed at the same time, and vocals sound much more convincing on the 3

 

when i listen to waterscapes, including rain, wind and storm recordings, the lcd3 is just the most realistic thing overall i ever heard

 

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Originally Posted by roskodan View Post
 

don't know what's the reason of so much debate, fuss, about the lcd2 being more punchy than the 3s, it's a fact, just look at their respective measurements

 

And what part of the measurements suggest to you that the LCD-2 is punchier?

i had the lcd2 first, when i got the lcd3 first thing i noticed was the lack of the lcd2's signature punchy dry bass

 

for the measurements, you can look at the impulse response, the lcd2 have almost a perfect single first big peak, while the lcd3 have like two peaks almost the same size one after another

 

than the square wave response is much more sustained, linear, on the lcd2

 

which is probably why the lcd3 feels more sensible and detailed with music

post #2205 of 2834

It's the LCD-3 that has the larger overshoot then a smaller one.  Also a squarer graph indicates better sub bass.  The LCD-3 trades some sub bass in exchange for a greater reach into the presence region.  That said the better seal of the softer pads provides for better bass sustain and greater control in the same way it does an iem as opposed to with a poor seal.

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