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post #211 of 2981
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

As much as I wanted to believe the lcd3 was the better headphone, I truly think the HE6 out of a speaker amp is a class above both my HD800 and LCD3. I will most likely fund a good speaker amp with the lcd3. The lcd3 are RMA'd and have easily over 500 hours from the previous owner; and guess what he kept over them? tongue.gif
Maybe something is wrong, but i dont think so, they do come close to the HE6, and have more depth than them for one (and obviously a more textured bass)
I'll try compare on a dynanhi, gs-x and a eximus in the upcoming days and let you guys know what i think

 

 

Interesting to hear you findings on the Dynahi.  Is the cable on the LCD-3s SE or balanced? 

post #212 of 2981
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Originally Posted by Rawdawg3234 View Post

It's ok to have a favorite headphone.

 

Nods.  Though I could never live with the Mjolnir > HD800 combo, since I found it bright on the LCD-3, some like greater treble presence, others bass, others still mids.  I most definitely fall in the bass camp since for me its the hardest group to hear in a headphone.

post #213 of 2981
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Nods.  Though I could never live with the Mjolnir > HD800 combo, since I found it bright on the LCD-3, some like greater treble presence, others bass, others still mids.  I most definitely fall in the bass camp since for me its the hardest group to hear in a headphone.

+1
The LCD 3s are the only can I've heard true bass out of.
post #214 of 2981

Listen to the LCD-3 for a month of two without ever touching the HE-6, then come back and try to listen to the HE-6.

post #215 of 2981
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Listen to the LCD-3 for a month of two without ever touching the HE-6, then come back and try to listen to the HE-6.

1/2 agree. Listening to the LCD-3 for a month straight will really make you appreciate them,

but it in no way makes the HE-6 sound unlistenable.

post #216 of 2981

I'm still of the opinion that if you like the HE-6... buy an HE-500 :P

post #217 of 2981
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I'm still of the opinion that if you like the HE-6... buy an HE-500 :P

 

 

I second that.  If all you have is head amps..

post #218 of 2981
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

I have had the ED.8 for a few weeks so I don't plan on getting another ultrasone unfortunately. I have 89000 songs, mainly lossless that I've traded with head-fiers and audiophile friends over the years; I listen to absolutely everything except most country and modern rap.

 

Right now I'm using the Mjolnir/Gungnir, running with DHC nucleotide xlr interconnects, tellurium Q usb (audible difference, yes), NRG-2 power cords, and the HD800 w/Q cable or nucleotide, HE-6 with nucleotide/ stock or LCD-3 with nucleotide.

 

I will be seeing a friend with lcd-3's and compare our pairs, he's also using Q cables. From what I was told, the lcd-3's respond a lot to different cables, and I am familiar with Q; so I'm looking forward to hearing a difference.

 

I'll let you guys know, most likely next friday but maybe sooner.

 

Also, I have to add again that the synergy with the BHA-1 for the LCD-3 was better than with the mojo, and the HE-6 seems to take a step up with the mjolnir; but I traded the bha-1and cash for the LCD-3 redface.gif

 

Dan

 

I guess you've mentioned that you really preferred the brighter sound of the HE-6 (and less bright HD800s); and conversely disliked the LCD-2s for not being as bright as you'd like them to be. So I'm figuring that the Audeze "sound" if I could use that phrase, isn't to your liking. But technically, both are outstanding headphones with the nod going to the LCD-3s in terms of a flatter FR response, better square wave responses, being a faster driver, and even lower distortion (I'm of course referring to the post-RMA versions of the LCD-3s). Sound stage wise I found them about on par; which for me was a great improvement over the LCD-2s (either revision). Just to confirm, my comparisons were done with the LCD-3s on my (now sold WA22) and on my brother's McIntosh speaker amp. I personally think the HE-6s do sound best from a good speaker amp, but the difference isn't as huge as many have stated (again IMO).

 

While I can happily live with the 6kHz peak on the HD800s, I found that the wider peak (over a wider frequency range) on the HE-6s a bit too much for me to truly enjoy them fully. In that regard (along with Tyll's measurements) I can see why some (like Tyll) actually prefer the HE-500 to the HE-6s.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/17/12 at 7:14am
post #219 of 2981

I'm seriously bummed. When I hear someone mention that the LCD-3 can be very detailed up high and comparable to the HD800 minus the harshness, that's definitely not what I'm hearing.

 

I'm convinced they're veiled, yet they're said to be RMA'd... Something is not right. One thing for sure, right now from what I'm hearing, it's a significant step up over the LCD-2 r3, but not anywhere close to being a headphone worth almost 2 grand.

 

If I can make a small analogy, it's like if I had a 2.1 speaker system with boosted up bass on the sub and both speakers have damaged tweeters... confused_face_2.gif

 

I'm anxious to trade LCD-3's for the week with a local audiophile; at that point I will be able to see (hear) what exactly to expect

 

Edit: Otherwise I was thinking if the magnets are damaged? Is it possible that the magnets are discharging?


Edited by dleblanc343 - 11/17/12 at 7:57am
post #220 of 2981
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

I'm seriously bummed. When I hear someone mention that the LCD-3 can be very detailed up high and comparable to the HD800 minus the harshness, that's definitely not what I'm hearing.

 

I'm convinced they're veiled, yet they're said to be RMA'd... Something is not right. One thing for sure, right now from what I'm hearing, it's a significant step up over the LCD-2 r3, but not anywhere close to being a headphone worth almost 2 grand.

 

If I can make a small analogy, it's like if I had a 2.1 speaker system with boosted up bass and both speakers have damaged tweeters... confused_face_2.gif

 

I'm anxious to trade LCD-3's for the week with a local audiophile; at that point I will be able to see (hear) what exactly to expect

Purrin has some anecdotes of some LCD-3's becoming veiled over time. Meaing, post RMA...so...

post #221 of 2981
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Purrin has some anecdotes of some LCD-3's becoming veiled over time. Meaing, post RMA...so...

So maybe the magnet discharge theory makes sense? Premature aging?

post #222 of 2981
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

So maybe the magnet discharge theory makes sense? Premature aging?

They're just anecdotes, so I'm very skeptical. But I suppose it's possible. I'd wonder why the LCD-2's haven't had such problems.

post #223 of 2981
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

I'm seriously bummed. When I hear someone mention that the LCD-3 can be very detailed up high and comparable to the HD800 minus the harshness, that's definitely not what I'm hearing.

 

I'm convinced they're veiled, yet they're said to be RMA'd... Something is not right. One thing for sure, right now from what I'm hearing, it's a significant step up over the LCD-2 r3, but not anywhere close to being a headphone worth almost 2 grand.

 

If I can make a small analogy, it's like if I had a 2.1 speaker system with boosted up bass on the sub and both speakers have damaged tweeters... confused_face_2.gif

 

I'm anxious to trade LCD-3's for the week with a local audiophile; at that point I will be able to see (hear) what exactly to expect

 

Edit: Otherwise I was thinking if the magnets are damaged? Is it possible that the magnets are discharging?

 

A few thoughts....

 

If they are "a significant step up over the LCD-2 r.3" then they are most likely not veiled; as the veiled pairs were reportedly a step back from the LCD-2s. Especially if you bought them brand new recently. Magnets don't discharge as you mentioned. I think the issue from this past January had more to do with driver tensioning or lack thereof (but this is far from being confirmed). That said, I've had my pair since Nov. 2011 without issue. I did send them back in April-May to be updated to the newest revision and you can find my thoughts on the differences on the wiki I wrote here a while back.

 

With regards to your comments...I seriously suggest that you listen to them for at least a week and not mix in other headphones. If at that time you still prefer the brighter and more peaky HE-6s, then you just might be a treble head. smile.gif

post #224 of 2981
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

 

A few thoughts....

 

If they are "a significant step up over the LCD-2 r.3" then they are most likely not veiled; as the veiled pairs were reportedly a step back from the LCD-2s. Especially if you bought them brand new recently. Magnets don't discharge as you mentioned. I think the issue from this past January had more to do with driver tensioning or lack thereof (but this is far from being confirmed). That said, I've had my pair since Nov. 2011 without issue. I did send them back in April-May to be updated to the newest revision and you can find my thoughts on the differences on the wiki I wrote here a while back.

 

With regards to your comments...I seriously suggest that you listen to them for at least a week and not mix in other headphones. If at that time you still prefer the brighter and more peaky HE-6s, then you just might be a treble head. smile.gif

Well I bought them from another head-fier/ friend, they're mint so I don't know. I will be giving them some exclusive head time, but to me if it sounds wrong I can't magically get used to them. I think the best is to compare head to head, which I will do. One thing for sure, I'm not under-amplifying them.

post #225 of 2981

I'm just trolling here:

 

The bright and peaky HE-6 seems to avoid me.  I have not seen or heard that at all in all the time I've had her.  

 

Headphones that's bright and peaky IMO

 

HD800, T70, Pro 900 and maybe the T1..

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