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post #1906 of 4457
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Or you can go full silver litz (> silver stranded) :D 

 

I don't want silver :) Don't think so at least :)

post #1907 of 4457
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Your loss.  ETP isn't annealed, Q is... can't be ETP.  It isn't OCC though.

 

It is ETP. Ask the man himself :)

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After reading up and down some threads it's come down to two (for now) cables: Q French Silk cable and the Toxic Silver Poison. 

Basically the same price but two very different cables. As I live in Norway I have no chance to try them out.

Very happy with my LCD-3 but maybe missing a some "oomph" in the bass department. I have also experienced some "hissing" for lack of a better word with some vocals performing s's. Michael Jackson comes to mind. Catch 22 i guess :)

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Originally Posted by spidipidi View Post
 

After reading up and down some threads it's come down to two (for now) cables: Q French Silk cable and the Toxic Silver Poison. 

Basically the same price but two very different cables. As I live in Norway I have no chance to try them out.

Very happy with my LCD-3 but maybe missing a some "oomph" in the bass department. I have also experienced some "hissing" for lack of a better word with some vocals performing s's. Michael Jackson comes to mind. Catch 22 i guess :)

 

I've never found the LCD-3+stock sibilant unless it's the recording, downstream or both.

If it's a digital source check that file on your phone for example. Many of them are warm sounding and laid back so should not be an issue. If it's not the recording, it's your downstream to look at: DAC, AMP, cables, etc.

 

That said silver cables will not help reduce existing sibilance or add bass impact. I do prefer them for the Audeze because I think they have natural synergy in the areas where the Audeze are weak. That's improving the weaknesses. Some other people like a different approach, to strengthen the existing strengths.


Edited by negura - 10/9/13 at 5:10am
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yeah, it could be the source, gonna try with a different record next time. Come to think about I have only experienced with one song. I guess sibilance is not really a problem.

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It is ETP. Ask the man himself :)

 

For us that are slow (me)

what is ETP?...

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It's the lowest purity copper:

ETP < OFC < OCC

 

The stock cable is OFC (Oxigen Free Copper)

post #1913 of 4457
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Your loss.  ETP isn't annealed, Q is... can't be ETP.  It isn't OCC though.

 

Like people could really tell the difference, though they'll claim to do so.

 

Q and DHC have the highest workmanship. 

 

Q fanboy when I had a dynamic rig.

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If you don't tell the difference then stick with stock smily_headphones1.gif
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If you don't tell the difference then stick with stock smily_headphones1.gif

 

For many, there are other benefits aftermarket cables provide.

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For many, there are other benefits aftermarket cables provide.
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For many, there are other benefits aftermarket cables provide.

 

Sure, and for many the SQ benefits come far and away above anything else. And even justify the costs. :)

post #1918 of 4457
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For us that are slow (me)
what is ETP?...

ETP stands for Electrolytic Tough Pitch. ETP starts out with a high purity copper (99.94% minimum to meet the spec) and then during the melt, a very small, precisely controlled amount of oxygen is added. What the oxygen does is scavenge impurities and remove them from solution. The result is an increase in the copper's conductivity compared to what it would be if the impurities were left in solution.

The "problem" with ETP copper is that if it's heated in a reducing atmosphere such as hydrogen, as you might find in a hydrogen annealing furnace, the hydrogen can react with the oxygen in the copper causing it to become embrittled.

For situations such as that, oxygen free copper is used. Because oxygen free copper can't take advantage of oxygen scavenging, it has to have a higher inherent purity in order to achieve the same conductivity as ETP copper.

Because we don't recommend our cables be used in things like hydrogen annealing furnaces, we just use ETP copper.

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Your loss.  ETP isn't annealed, Q is... can't be ETP.  It isn't OCC though.

Virtually all wire used for electrical purposes is annealed. This is done during the wire drawing process and doesn't matter if it's ETP, OFC, OCC, etc.

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:o2smile:

 

Give me a few moments with them now will you

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