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Fixed it for you. wink.gif

Auto-correct in head-fi work differently :P
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No 800's here so I guess ignorance = bliss. I love my 3's and listen to classical with them all the time.

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No 800's here so I guess ignorance = bliss. I love my 3's and listen to classical with them all the time.

you are not exactly "suffering", that is a certainty.

 

i have both. the other day i was listening to a hires needledrop of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra that is one of my best recordings sonically (not to mention that it's also a phenominal(sp) performance of an amazing work). i switched just for fun from my hd800s to my lcd3s and was blown away by the sonic presentation. fantastic soundstage (via a burson) that is certainly surpassed in size by the 800s; but fantastic stage and imaging nonetheless. the thing that caught my ear was that the tone of horns was actually truer to what I hear in a live performance in a great hall such as Carnegie. more sonorous/richer than that of the hd800s. switching back to the hd800 they didn't let me down, but I now find myself inclined to not simply default to the senns for classical. and I could easily live with just the LCD-3s. the 800's may be a cleaner, more neutral view of the recording studio, but they do not always provide the most musical sound of each instrument. there are plusses and minuses to that more surgical viewpoint provided by the hd800s. i would find it far easier to give them up than the LCD-3s.     


Edited by analog'd - 8/8/13 at 3:47pm
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Auto-correct in head-fi work differently :P

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This is what I, and others who have tried the combo at the meet I brought it to, concluded. We thought what was the problem with the combo was that the stock tubes were not very outstanding with the Audeze, although it did sound plenty nice with the HD800. I didn't get a chance to listen to upgraded tubes since it was just a loaner.

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GG,

 

Did you use any upgraded tubes? I thought the Stratus sounded very average with the stock tubes on the LCD3, but really excellent when using the Sophias or EMLs.

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you are not exactly "suffering", that is a certainty.

 

i have both. the other day i was listening to a hires needledrop of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra that is one of my best recordings sonically (not to mention that it's also a phenominal(sp) performance of an amazing work). i switched just for fun from my hd800s to my lcd3s and was blown away by the sonic presentation. fantastic soundstage (via a burson) that is certainly surpassed in size by the 800s; but fantastic stage and imaging nonetheless. the thing that caught my ear was that the tone of horns was actually truer to what I hear in a live performance in a great hall such as Carnegie. more sonorous/richer than that of the hd800s. switching back to the hd800 they didn't let me down, but I now find myself inclined to not simply default to the senns for classical. and I could easily live with just the LCD-3s. the 800's may be a cleaner, more neutral view of the recording studio, but they do not always provide the most musical sound of each instrument. there are plusses and minuses to that more surgical viewpoint provided by the hd800s. i would find it far easier to give them up than the LCD-3s.     

Your last sentence spoke volumes to me. Thanks'.

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Shortage or new config.  Doubt new driver but they are continuously changing the dampening so who knows.

just got the tracking # for my LCD-3 orders :) early next week.

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The argument that the LCD-3s are not $1000 better than the LCD-2s is, as any owner of the LCD-3s knows, a flawed argument. Perhaps they are 20% better (if it can be quantified) but it's that 20% that elevates the LCD-3s to a higher level of enjoyment. And for most owners of the LCD-3s, that higher level of enjoyment - ie. their auditory elegance and transparency - makes them worth the additional cost. The HD800s are incomparable for many things, while the LCD-3s are deeply satisfying in other, quite unique ways. I could never sell either.


Edited by mikebirm49 - 8/9/13 at 9:27pm
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The argument that the LCD-3s are not $1000 better than the LCD-2s is, as any owner of the LCD-3s knows, a flawed argument. Perhaps they are 20% better (if it can be quantified) but it's that 20% that elevates the LCD-3s to a higher level of enjoyment. And for most owners of the LCD-3s, that higher level of enjoyment - ie. their auditory elegance and transparency - makes them worth the additional cost. The HD800s are incomparable for many things, while the LCD-3s are deeply satisfying in other, quite unique ways. I could never sell either.

Exactly. Are the LCD-2's 3x better than the HD650s? (To turn the argument in the other direction.)
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Ultimately they are. Their bass extension is a powerful argument for their nominal superiority. The 650s will forever have a luscious warmth that can make music sound very inviting but the LCD-2s have a visceral impact the 650s lack. More finesse with the 650s, more forceful personality and immediacy from the LCD-2s.

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I guess we all have different things we want and perceive. I for one was never truly satisfied with headphones, so some of it may be due to that.

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What's interesting is how since 2009 headphones are approaching (or maybe surpassing) the best qualities of speakers: imaging, coherent soundstage, transparency and tonal accuracy. The reproduction of an oboe by the HD800s, for example, is beautifully accurate. The reproduction of well recorded saxophones, bass, percussion etc. by the LCD-3s can be breathtaking in their immediacy. There's been a major breakthrough.

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I for one was never truly satisfied with headphones, so some of it may be due to that.

 

No argument there.  Headphones are a compromise at worst and a tool at best.  Even at the level I've gotten to with my headphone rig, if no one is around I use the Dynaudio monitors.  They aren't anywhere near as good as the LCD-3 but they are just as enjoyable.

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I have a nice 7.1 speaker set-up that I enjoy listening to but I simply can't get as close to the music. Films, yes, the experience is unparalleled through speakers. And music does sound superb and enjoyable through good speakers. But the experience of listening to orchestral music through HD800s or Jazz through LCD-3s brings me that much closer to the music. The intimacy is the soul of the experience and I can't reproduce that through my speakers. I wish I could. My wallet would be much thicker.

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Ultimately they are. Their bass extension is a powerful argument for their nominal superiority. The 650s will forever have a luscious warmth that can make music sound very inviting but the LCD-2s have a visceral impact the 650s lack. More finesse with the 650s, more forceful personality and immediacy from the LCD-2s.

The LCD-2s are better no doubt over the HD650s, but definitely not 3x the price. wink.gif

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