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post #31 of 60

 

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Wow, those are major differences! I've seen early PROline2500's with the five port holes on the plate, but all five ports were covered (like the two black coverings on your PRO2900's). Probably for more economical manufacturing at the time.

 

Later PROline & subsequent PRO2500 series units have the solid plating you show in yours. Very interesting.

 

Now, how brave are you to try to open up the cups to see what is behind there?

 

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post #32 of 60
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     Quote:

Originally Posted by jpelg View Post

Later PROline & subsequent PRO2500 series units have the solid plating you show in yours. Very interesting.

 

Now, how brave are you to try to open up the cups to see what is behind there?

 

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The Proline 2500 that I had a few years back had the solid plate, too, as I recall.

 

Now . . . WHERE are my jeweler's screwdrivers???

 


Edited by pataburd - 1/6/12 at 7:21am
post #33 of 60

I LOVE my 2500s...for the money, the best bang for the buck and their closed sibling the proline750s are pretty fantastic easy to drive phones too!

post #34 of 60
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post

 


 

Anyway, I just sold my LCD-2, Rev. 2, after a/b-ing them with the Pro 2500.  Just so you know where my biases might tend to veer.  : )

 

 

Patrick

 

 

 

WOW, that is a HUGE move...I LOVE my LCD-2s also...just for the bling factor and the SOUND is HUGE
 

 

post #35 of 60
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Originally Posted by paulybatz View Post

WOW, that is a HUGE move...I LOVE my LCD-2s also...just for the bling factor and the SOUND is HUGE


The sound [of the LCD-2] oughtta be huge, given that the earpieces are the size of small fruit baskets!  : ) 

post #36 of 60
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Summary, First Draft:

The PRO 2900 offer levels of quickness, refinement and delicacy that their predecessors (the PRO 2500) do not. Soundstage is well defined, with individual instruments/performers placed "to a tee" in vibrant, 3-dimensional space.  Bass is denser and delivered with more impact; reasonably clean, extended and articulate.  A fairly even-keeled frequency response and touches of tonal sophistication round out the engaging sonic balance of Ultrasone's latest—and only—open offering.


That said, the PRO 2900 do not have the raw, un-hulled texture of the PRO 2500 (which, by the way, I have come to appreciate over the years), and in some respects can sound slightly distant or “abridged” by comparison (to the 2500).  The PRO 2500’s soundstage, in addition to being more forward and a bit more saturated or informative in absolute terms, is also arguably larger and more diffuse by contrast.

 

The 2900—and to a greater extent than the 2500, I think—should benefit from an injection of upstream warmth: at the source (including the quality of the recording itself), at the amp and/or along the cable stream, otherwise their comparatively lean texture can be overstated, and their otherwise welcome qualities overstayed.  In fact, given a warmer source, like the Denon/Denon combination [and what side of the bed I happened to wake up on], I tend to prefer the 2900 to the 2500.  On the other hand, given a cooler source, like the Samsung/Linn combination [and/or another side of the bed], I tend to favor the 2500 over the 2900. 

While, in my humble estimation, the Ultrasone PRO 2900 demontrate a distinct departure from the familiar "stock" or "house" sound of the PRO 2500, the PRO 2900 nevertheless bring to the table a vivid and refreshing counterpoint, an alternative just as technically adroit and musically satisfying in their own right.  Based on preliminary dissection, these sonic differences are apparently correlated, in some measure, with design changes to the MU plate and re-sizing of the ear pads.  (A more thorough side-by-side comparison, requiring further disassembly, is planned for a future date.) 

 

To be frank, I am as-yet undecided on my preference for either one of the two.  Each has uniquely satisfying merits of its own.  In addition, having logged only about 150 hours on them so far, I am not convinced whether the 2900 have as-yet shown me their full capability.  Therefore, God willing, I intend to complete another round of critical listening [between the 2500 and the 2900] after 150 more hours of run-in with he Pro 2900.  


Edited by pataburd - 1/6/12 at 9:25pm
post #37 of 60

Can you tell me the exact diameter of those 3 white holes there? I may get tempted to install some on my 2500's but if I think too hard about it I may not. It's the DIY bug making my fingers twitch. Best reserve that for lower end models maybe.

I assume they are a passive radiator type of thing as found in older AKG's. The black circles are resonance controlling thin rubber pads?

Oh i see there are 5 port holes and possibly the rubber discs on the two.

Wonder if anyone has tried making custom baffles out of sheet metal. Probably screw up the signature completely.


Edited by nick n - 1/6/12 at 5:42pm
post #38 of 60
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The holes are 3/8".  I can take another measurement in millimeters (or we can just convert 1 in = 22.4 mm).

 

The plastic discs are blanks, covering the second and fourth holes.  

post #39 of 60

 I can deal with both metric and imperial, one of that generation.

 Maybe I'll get a few blank metal discs ( same gauge ) cut and play around with some drill bits. Those discs are hard plastic or rubber/silicone consistency? Just curious if they had a few precuts around and used them instead a of a whole new batch, and whether the plastic is there to fix them to the equivalent of 3 remaining holes, whether it's used to fix resonances, or if it's a purposeful hole-tuning thing.  Thanks for taking the time to post back on that.

 Imagine turning the 2500 into a 2900 for the price of a decent Americano and a bit of time, assuming all else is equal inside.


Edited by nick n - 1/6/12 at 10:25pm
post #40 of 60

Im sure they are quite similar in signature...

post #41 of 60

nick, if you are willing to go that far to mod, you might want to contact Ultrasone for the cost of the 2900 plate part. Then you could simply swap it out on the 2500 to compare.

post #42 of 60

Oh wonder why that slipped my mind. I'll contact them for a price and check back here when I do. Thanks for the oversight correction there.

post #43 of 60
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Don't forget the foam ear rings, either.  I will try do a quick a/b, interchanging the foam rings, later today.

post #44 of 60

Interesting...post how much they charge for the plate and earpads....curious if there is much of a difference in A/B comparison!

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