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post #151 of 174
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Originally Posted by aristidesfl View Post

To everyone who has owned the K271 MKII and the K550, which ones are more confortable?

After selling my ATH-M50's due to discomfort problems, I've bought the K550.

They are without doubt more confortable, but I still can't wear them for more that 1h without feeling discomfort to the point that I prefer switching for my inferior SQ earbuds.  

 

Since the K271 MKII come with velour pads, I wonder if that would fix the heat/sweat problem making them more confortable than the K550.

On the other hand, I see the K271 cups have a smaller diameter and I've got big hears.

Besides, I see some comments saying the K550 are the most confortable headphones they have every tried.

 

I start to wonder if I have to give up from closed cans, or if the velours will fix the discomfort...

The other options are to keep using my yuin pk3 which are so confortable I don't notice, or going to the open-can market, which will lack the noise isolation I was looking for.

 

 

 

To everyone who has owned the K271 MKII and the K550which ones are more confortable?

Should I give the K271 MKII a shot, or will I be disappointed coming from the K550 in terms of SQ?

 

Thanks

 

I had both, and for me I found the K271 to have relatively tight clamping force... not surprising as its designed for studio use and seal... in all it's not overly tight or anything, but if you tend to be intolerant to clamping force it's possible that you may find it uncomfortable... I have ears that are quite flat so I never had my ears touch the drivers but the pads (velour more so than the pleathers I find) are somewhat shallow so if you have ears that stick out, it may possibly touch the drivers.  K550 cups/pads are more roomy, plus pads are memory foam so it's more comfortable against your face. The clamping force isn't that bad either, and can be lessened if you bend the bars more. I find the headband comfort better on K271 though as K550 have more weight to them and has pressure at one point, though it's not horrible.

 

Sound quality wise, I feel that K550 wins over K271 in all aspects, I don't see you being disappointed there.

post #152 of 174

I have Dog pads on my modded T50RP, who have more width than the Alpha pads. The Dog pads are barely wide enough, and I use a pad raiser. So I wonder if the Alpha pads have enough room for big ears. They are deep enough, that I will believe for sure.

 

BTW: the DT 880 can be modded into closed back cans with DT770 velour pads. Comfort and sound wise, they are rather good, though still a bit bright.

See: http://www.head-fi.org/t/424842/beyerdynamic-dt880-closed-back

post #153 of 174

For me, the Shure SRH940 is the best of those listed here. Very detailed (top level), relatively neutral and not harsh or grating. They have cheap plastic (some have reported cracking early on, and they are rather big. YMMV

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Originally Posted by Tiemen View Post

I have Dog pads on my modded T50RP, who have more width than the Alpha pads. The Dog pads are barely wide enough, and I use a pad raiser. So I wonder if the Alpha pads have enough room for big ears. They are deep enough, that I will believe for sure.

 

BTW: the DT 880 can be modded into closed back cans with DT770 velour pads. Comfort and sound wise, they are rather good, though still a bit bright.

See: http://www.head-fi.org/t/424842/beyerdynamic-dt880-closed-back

 

Tiemen, the alpha pads provide way more room than the dog pads and are much more comfortable. It isn't like changing pads on the denon d7k and it's siblings where both the jmoney and lawton pads increased sound quality but never comfort. The alpha pads scores on both fronts with the mad dog's. 

 

But as for the shure 940 - It's comfort was pretty good, though it's bass response wasn't to my liking. This is one phone where if I wanted to hear the bass I had to turn the volume up and in effect increase the energy at the treble region for it is a r shaped headphone anyway. Midrange was awesome as were it's detail retrival/timber/headstage. 

post #155 of 174
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For me, the Shure SRH940 is the best of those listed here. Very detailed (top level), relatively neutral and not harsh or grating. They have cheap plastic (some have reported cracking early on, and they are rather big. YMMV

closed back, small cups and pleather pads, they don't seem more confortable than the k550..

post #156 of 174

^ they aren't more comfortable, they just sound better YMMV

post #157 of 174

That is good to know.. unfortunately my problem at the moment is comfort. I've been paying more attention and it seems the main problem are the ears being pressed by the interior of the cabinet. The alpha pads probably would solve this problem

 

How are the K550 compared to others like DT880 / DT770 / HD600 / etc..  in terms of pad/cup profundity?


Edited by aristidesfl - 4/26/13 at 9:51am
post #158 of 174
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Compared to the beyers and senn that you mentioned, the k550 is worse. It doesn't leave much horizontal room for the ears at all.

post #159 of 174

Someone said DT880 were shallow, so are K550 super shallow? I thought they were quite deep..

post #160 of 174
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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post

 

Tiemen, the alpha pads provide way more room than the dog pads and are much more comfortable. It isn't like changing pads on the denon d7k and it's siblings where both the jmoney and lawton pads increased sound quality but never comfort. The alpha pads scores on both fronts with the mad dog's. 

 

 

No, they don't. Please measure them, before making those statements.

I have both now. The Dog pads have slightly more space around the ears,  but are much flatter.

The Alpha pads have not enough opening space to call them comfortable for those with big/long ears.

The DT 770 velour and Beyer leather ear pads are more comfortable for me, as are the DT 150 pads.

post #161 of 174
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Originally Posted by aristidesfl View Post

That is good to know.. unfortunately my problem at the moment is comfort. I've been paying more attention and it seems the main problem are the ears being pressed by the interior of the cabinet. The alpha pads probably would solve this problem

 

How are the K550 compared to others like DT880 / DT770 / HD600 / etc..  in terms of pad/cup profundity?

Well I'm not going to answer your question directly but I should come close. I have had the HD650, T70, and K550.

 

 

The K550 has large but very shallow cups. The T70 was large and deep (at least imo) and my ears never touched the interior of the headphones (well maybe they did but I never noticed it). On the K550, I noticed my ears were pushing against the headphones (not the pads but the screen where the drivers are) and they were sore after about an hour of use. However, with time, I was about to listen to them for 3 hours or so and it didn't bother me too much. The HD650 has smaller cups than K550 and T70 but is definitely deeper than the K550. My ears might have touched the sides but it didn't bother me and I don't remember the cups ever being too shallow on the HD650.

 

So comfort is as follows...

T70 > HD650 > K550

 

 

But my sound preference is...

K550 > T70 > HD650

This is obviously very subjective while comfort can be agreed upon more readily.

post #162 of 174
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Originally Posted by Tiemen View Post

 

No, they don't. Please measure them, before making those statements.

I have both now. The Dog pads have slightly more space around the ears,  but are much flatter.

The Alpha pads have not enough opening space to call them comfortable for those with big/long ears.

The DT 770 velour and Beyer leather ear pads are more comfortable for me, as are the DT 150 pads.

I have both too.

 

When I mean more space, the concept of space is the 3 dimensional concept as defined in the dictionaries of science/physics/mathematics. If you were to measure therefore the volume of space available, between both pads you would find the alpha pads to posses more. 

post #163 of 174
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I have both too.

 

When I mean more space, the concept of space is the 3 dimensional concept as defined in the dictionaries of science/physics/mathematics. If you were to measure therefore the volume of space available, between both pads you would find the alpha pads to posses more. 

 

In depth, yes, a lot more.

In width and length, no.

 

So the volume of space of the Alpha pads is theoretically more, but when the result is a lot of leather crammed to your ears, it's still not that comfortable.

A bit like the Sony XB700 I had (the pads, not the sound).

 

But I can live with the Alpha pads, because they improve the sound of my modded T50RP.

 

I guess comfort is as subjective as sound. So be it.

post #164 of 174
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Well I'm not going to answer your question directly but I should come close. I have had the HD650, T70, and K550.

 

 

The K550 has large but very shallow cups. The T70 was large and deep (at least imo) and my ears never touched the interior of the headphones (well maybe they did but I never noticed it). On the K550, I noticed my ears were pushing against the headphones (not the pads but the screen where the drivers are) and they were sore after about an hour of use. However, with time, I was about to listen to them for 3 hours or so and it didn't bother me too much. The HD650 has smaller cups than K550 and T70 but is definitely deeper than the K550. My ears might have touched the sides but it didn't bother me and I don't remember the cups ever being too shallow on the HD650.

 

So comfort is as follows...

T70 > HD650 > K550

 

 

But my sound preference is...

K550 > T70 > HD650

This is obviously very subjective while comfort can be agreed upon more readily.

I would ask you how is the sound balance of the T70 compared to the K550, but I'm not sure I can justify the price difference. T70 429£ vs K550 148£

post #165 of 174
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Originally Posted by aristidesfl View Post

I would ask you how is the sound balance of the T70 compared to the K550, but I'm not sure I can justify the price difference. T70 429£ vs K550 148£

I got my T70 for $285 in the B/S section and the price you just listed is absurd imo. The K550 is more neutral/balanced in my opinion. It's been a while since I had the K550 but if my memory is correct, the highs in the K550 was better and less fatiguing. The bass was also faster on the K550. Let me know if theres anything else I can help answer. 

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