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post #946 of 6548
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

i thought u burned in 1430 hours when i first saw this lol :D how does the E17 do by itself with DT 770 with 250 ohm? so 40 voume at 12 gain is enough right?


Hehehe... 1430 hours of burn-in would be quite the feat, considering the E17 hasn't been available that long. And yes, volume level 40 at a gain of 12 is quite loud, at least to my ears. Very useable! I'm not expecting miracles, but it'll be interesting to see how it does with my new HD800s when I get them.

 

Dale

 

post #947 of 6548
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

im sorry. you must have missed my qeustion since i put it in a mass quote post. but how do you think or how does the E17 do by itself with 250 ohm beyers? is 40 volume at 12dB gain enough? or. is it ..just enough?

 

I'm going to guess. Pico and many other companies are going to start having problems from FiiO :D the FiiO nation is pretty large especially since so many newbies have it

 

 

Nope, didn't miss your question - see post #946 above. :) I just hadn't got to your post yet and was replying to posts in the order I read them.

 

Yes, Headamp (Pico manufacturer) and others with similar amps (like Ray Samuels Audio) will have to be "on the lookout". When Fiio can release a DAC/amp at about 1/4 the cost, with very similar performance and a few extras to boot, the sales of the higher priced Pico DAC/amp are sure to fall.

 

Dale
 

 

 


Edited by AgentXXL - 1/31/12 at 7:22am
post #948 of 6548
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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post


Hehehe... 1430 hours of burn-in would be quite the feat, considering the E17 hasn't been available that long. And yes, volume level 40 at a gain of 12 is quite loud, at least to my ears. Very useable! I'm not expecting miracles, but it'll be interesting to see how it does with my new HD800s when I get them.

 

Dale

 



plz post then. i would like to know how the 215mW @ 32 Ohms would do for something like an HD800 :D is there any hiss at 40 with gain 12 for you?

 

and yes. im loving mine too :D. i do 30 on gain 6 and it's already quite loud. but then again. i have a no too hard to drive hfi 580. my shure's are a bit harder but still no problems. i have to keep it on 15 with 6dB gain with my earbuds :D

post #949 of 6548
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

plz post then. i would like to know how the 215mW @ 32 Ohms would do for something like an HD800 :D is there any hiss at 40 with gain 12 for you?

 

I don't notice any hiss, but my source material was almost all 96KHz at 24bit, so it was pretty clean. I'll have to listen to some of my lower quality stuff, like my 192 - 320 MP3s.

 

I'll certainly post back when I get my HD800s and once I've tested with some others, like my friends HD650s.

 

 

 

post #950 of 6548

STOP posting about your hfi 580 already! Stop reminding me my DJ1s!!!
 

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plz post then. i would like to know how the 215mW @ 32 Ohms would do for something like an HD800 :D is there any hiss at 40 with gain 12 for you?

 

and yes. im loving mine too :D. i do 30 on gain 6 and it's already quite loud. but then again. i have a no too hard to drive hfi 580. my shure's are a bit harder but still no problems. i have to keep it on 15 with 6dB gain with my earbuds :D



 

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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post

 

I don't notice any hiss, but my source material was almost all 96KHz at 24bit, so it was pretty clean. I'll have to listen to some of my lower quality stuff, like my 192 - 320 MP3s.

 

I'll certainly post back when I get my HD800s and once I've tested with some others, like my friends HD650s.

 

 

 


K thx man. 

 



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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post

STOP posting about your hfi 580 already! Stop reminding me my DJ1s!!!
 



 


What happened to ur DJ1? :(

 

 

post #952 of 6548

Aside from 24bit/192hz, is there any benefit to using SPDIF (coax) over USB?

post #953 of 6548

Hi bowei006, thanks for your insight into LOD.  I wonder if using micro-usb to mini (3.5mm) jack does the same thing.  The thing is I have Galaxy S2 Android phone and no longer have iPhone.  Will I be able to go from micro-usb (phone side) to usb on E17?  I just pre-ordered one from MP4 (should I?).

 

thanks.

post #954 of 6548
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Originally Posted by Sonnyt View Post

Hi bowei006, thanks for your insight into LOD.  I wonder if using micro-usb to mini (3.5mm) jack does the same thing.  The thing is I have Galaxy S2 Android phone and no longer have iPhone.  Will I be able to go from micro-usb (phone side) to usb on E17?  I just pre-ordered one from MP4 (should I?).

 

thanks.


"Welcome to Head-Fi! Sorry about your wallet!"

Sorry I have no idea if if micro usb to 3.5mm or micro usb to usb would work. I don't think it does. if it did, i would have heard of it and android owners on head fi would holller :D but still. i don't have any info for you right now. Sorry. It's safe to order from there. only problem is if your E17 starts having problems

post #955 of 6548

Just got my preorder with mp4nation too, looking forward to receiving a fully functional unit :)

after all, this looks to be the biggest bang for the buck if looked at the impressions of others.

post #956 of 6548
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Originally Posted by lshalamb View Post

Just got my preorder with mp4nation too, looking forward to receiving a fully functional unit :)

after all, this looks to be the biggest bang for the buck if looked at the impressions of others.

fully functional? what do you mean. There has been no proof of E17 not being functional. All we know is some users are experiencing issues where their Windows OS based system's just won't work over USB with E17 but will work on other OS's.
 

 

post #957 of 6548
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Originally Posted by Sonnyt View Post

 Will I be able to go from micro-usb (phone side) to usb on E17?

 

thanks.



Not yet. The USB Host feature is still not fully implemented in the latest version of Android. I have a rooted Nexus S 4G with Android 4.0.3 and don't have the functionality you're hoping to get. I hope it happens soon and when and if it does, you'll need a USB OTG cable to connect the E17 to your Android phone.

post #958 of 6548

For me, and probably for anyone else, full functionality of a given device is when it works as advertised (e.g. plug in, follow instructions, enjoy). I do not believe that it states in the user manual like "if you are running windows 7 you may experience some issues, or maybe not" There were some comments here of people using win7 and e17 working properly, therefore I call it NOT fully functional when I have to mess around with my pc to make something of $150 worth work with it.

I hope this is a clear explanation?
 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

fully functional? what do you mean. There has been no proof of E17 not being functional. All we know is some users are experiencing issues where their Windows OS based system's just won't work over USB with E17 but will work on other OS's.
 

 



 

post #959 of 6548
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Originally Posted by lshalamb View Post

For me, and probably for anyone else, full functionality of a given device is when it works as advertised (e.g. plug in, follow instructions, enjoy). I do not believe that it states in the user manual like "if you are running windows 7 you may experience some issues, or maybe not" There were some comments here of people using win7 and e17 working properly, therefore I call it NOT fully functional when I have to mess around with my pc to make something of $150 worth work with it.

I hope this is a clear explanation?
 


I asked what your definition was. Because it could just be as likely that it is Window's problem. If you buy a brand new OEM part for your car. But when you try to fit it in, you can't because there is something wrong with the car (deformation in that area atc) would you call the part that won't fit...not functional and faulty? As of right now, this problem that has only plauged 3 Head-Fi'ers....out of who knows how many (if any head fi'er had a problem...they would come crawling back and asking what is happening) and not to mention. It seems it works with another OS. therefore still pinning my initial blame on the Win 7 OS. on either the fact that it's driver's or support is not full or on both the products if the E17's usb chip just..isn't compatible with select chips under windows. There is no information right now. 

 

 



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Originally Posted by AgentXXL View Post

 

 

Yes, Headamp (Pico manufacturer) and others with similar amps (like Ray Samuels Audio) will have to be "on the lookout". When Fiio can release a DAC/amp at about 1/4 the cost, with very similar performance and a few extras to boot, the sales of the higher priced Pico DAC/amp are sure to fall.

 

Dale
 

that's what i thought :D fiio is moving up and hacking away at competition. great reviews and the fact that theyare a brand that caters to regular head fi'ers gives them a huge market following(buyers and users)
 

 



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Originally Posted by matics View Post



Not yet. The USB Host feature is still not fully implemented in the latest version of Android. I have a rooted Nexus S 4G with Android 4.0.3 and don't have the functionality you're hoping to get. I hope it happens soon and when and if it does, you'll need a USB OTG cable to connect the E17 to your Android phone.

Thank you for that clarifaction. helped me know as well as the asker. Very good answer. +1 rep right there...even if it means nothing on head fi


Edited by bowei006 - 1/31/12 at 3:03pm
post #960 of 6548


So out of the two, I think MS OS7 has a lot larger audience... comming to your metaphorics, which is the "deformated car", and which is the "part"? xD 

Don't get me wrong, I do understand that the problem is not persistent across OS7 users, and that it works perfectly with other OS', my problem is rather the fact that FiiO should have a response to the issue, because they made their product with support of OS7, not Microsoft made their windows so that FiiO could use it for its products. 

In my very specific case? I am using Alienware m17xr3, which does not behave very friendly with ubuntu, and I perform a large amount of work on my Win7, I do not feel comfortable giving up the ability to use the OS in favor of a E17 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post


I asked what your definition was. Because it could just be as likely that it is Window's problem. If you buy a brand new OEM part for your car. But when you try to fit it in, you can't because there is something wrong with the car (deformation in that area atc) would you call the part that won't fit...not functional and faulty? As of right now, this problem that has only plauged 3 Head-Fi'ers....out of who knows how many (if any head fi'er had a problem...they would come crawling back and asking what is happening) and not to mention. It seems it works with another OS. therefore still pinning my initial blame on the Win 7 OS. on either the fact that it's driver's or support is not full or on both the products if the E17's usb chip just..isn't compatible with select chips under windows. There is no information right now. 

 


 

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