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What is the difference between "gain" and "volume"? Both makes the audio louder. What situations would I want to use one over the other?

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What is the difference between "gain" and "volume"? Both makes the audio louder. What situations would I want to use one over the other?
Gain is your input level, my Colorfly C3 has a low output so I have to use a gain of 12 with it. Volume is the output level for your headphones which is adjustable.
post #6348 of 6572
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 Eg: plug in something that manually draws more than 5V in a Mac, the OS (mavericks) will tell you it disconnected said device because it used too much power. Previous Mac OS's use to just disconnect but not tell users (frustrating for users), so they added that in for mavericks.

 

No, OSX has done this for a long time, not just with Mavericks. Here's a post from 2006 mentioning the message; http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=233661

post #6349 of 6572

Wondering what is the best way to go about increase volume and avoiding noise? For example I could go +60db at 0gain, or a lesser +db increase at 6gain, or even 12gain. Would putting the volume at max (60dB) cause any noise? What about gain?

post #6350 of 6572
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Originally Posted by Stanfoo View Post

Wondering what is the best way to go about increase volume and avoiding noise? For example I could go +60db at 0gain, or a lesser +db increase at 6gain, or even 12gain. Would putting the volume at max (60dB) cause any noise? What about gain?
You will have to try the various settings to see what sounds best for you with your source and headphones.
post #6351 of 6572

My brother has a Nexus 5 - I am wondering if someone can definitively tell me if the FiiO E17 Alpen will work with the Nexus 5 using a USB On the Go cable (OTG)

 

I am also wondering if there is an OTG cable that does the cleanest MiniUSB-MicroUSB?

 

TIA

 

J

post #6352 of 6572

I know it depends on my setup, but in general, what are the chances of 12 gain presenting audio problems? (i.e. noise/distortion). 6 gain is fine but 12 gain is doubling it, so I'm worried the gain increase is too much. Am I being paranoid?

post #6353 of 6572
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Originally Posted by Stanfoo View Post

I know it depends on my setup, but in general, what are the chances of 12 gain presenting audio problems? (i.e. noise/distortion). 6 gain is fine but 12 gain is doubling it, so I'm worried the gain increase is too much. Am I being paranoid?
Have you tried these setting out? I like to have my volume controls around 50% for a good listening level. If 0 gain won't give me that then I switch to 6...

What source are you using and which headphones?
post #6354 of 6572
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Have you tried these setting out? I like to have my volume controls around 50% for a good listening level. If 0 gain won't give me that then I switch to 6...

What source are you using and which headphones?

 

I'm using the E17 with the HD598. My source is optical toslink from my TV (only to watch movies). 0 gain +60 volume wasn't loud enough so I did 6gain and +54 volume which is just loud enough. However one of my movies is lower volume so I know 6 gain +60 volume won't cut it, I would have to go 12 gain, that is why I'm asking this. (I have not tried 12 gain yet).


Edited by Stanfoo - 2/16/14 at 6:31pm
post #6355 of 6572
I have to run my Colorfly C3 with a gain of 12 in the E17, does your TV provide an option to control the volume out of the toslink, maybe you need to turn that up some? When I hook the E17 through optical on my MacBook the volume on the MacBook is set to the recommended max level.
post #6356 of 6572
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

I have to run my Colorfly C3 with a gain of 12 in the E17, does your TV provide an option to control the volume out of the toslink, maybe you need to turn that up some? When I hook the E17 through optical on my MacBook the volume on the MacBook is set to the recommended max level.

 

When I try to change the volume via the TV remote, it only changes the TV's speakers volume, not the headphones/optical toslink volume.

 

I will just have to see myself how 12 gain works out for me.

post #6357 of 6572

I have movie A and movie B. Movie B's audio volume is noticeably lower than movie A (I can hear the difference, this is without the E17). However with the E17, movie B's audio level is the same as movie A. This is a good thing, I'm glad I don't have to up the gain for movie B.

 

I'm just wondering what is the technical reason for this?

post #6358 of 6572

One possible explanation if it's a movie: it may have several audio tracks/mixes. Your computer-based player may default to the 5.1 mix (which may be at a lower level) via the built-in audio (maybe converted to stereo). If you run it through the E17 which accepts only pure stereo, it may switch to the actual stereo track which may be at a higher gain.

 

You can check this on most software players by looking in an "Audio" or similar menu which A) tells you if several mixes are available and B) lets you switch between them. Listen if the volume changes when switching between the tracks.

post #6359 of 6572
Been pretty impressed with the E17 paired with my iPod 5.5 lately, by I've decided to sell both as I dot really want to carry a stack anymore. PM if you're interested.
post #6360 of 6572
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I have an issue with my Fiio e17... Since I do have it on often during the day (and night) it appears that the characters on the lcd screen has burned it? So if I scroll, the burned in text overlaps the other menu options as I scroll through them. Is this is known issue? Can fiio send me a fixed one? Thanks

Mine has burned in "USB 11" across the display in the same way you describe as well...
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