I think I am understanding things.....
There are cheaper headphone that can give you lots of bass but aren't made for studio monitoring. I.e. the AT 770PRO, and btw, the new ear pad may have something to do with mudiness.
By playing with power amp I've gotten the ATs to sound pretty good...kinda like the sub in my car. Thats what I was going after. Its a huge unweildly bass sound and I could see using an EQ to tame the power but why do I need an amp with such low impedance headphones. They require less power than my beats solo HD.
I could see possibly using the F17 to sculpt the sound so the super lows on my mixes made for my truck don't blow my cans. (i.e. mad mike's bass mix, and more popularly, and musical, the new little Boosie...bass heads check it out!!! I hope this is what you mean by bass head because if you walk around listening to the the tuning CDs for subwoofers man there is something wrong with you).
But still I don't get the amp feature or why I'd need it.
I have come around to these headphones.....they can cheaply give me the feel of rolling in my 1200watts of sub while walking the dog, thats all I want, but I want some clarity too.0
The problems came in that the impedance is SOOOO low that you have to keep outputs down or it muddies stuff up. Could be the new ear pads someone mentioned too. But taming the volume, and using power amp along, and using my beats cable with mic for the phone I've gotten these cans to sound all right.
I still don't see why I need an amp.
And I still don't see why I shouldn't spend same money as AT plus AMP, buy the pioneer DJ200s which are COMFORTABLE, give you bass head response, and give you studio monitoring clarity. If you aren't afraid of taking studio cans out on a walk or for a trip (or snowboarding!!!!) why not just get the pioneers forget all this amp crap.
I still don't get why I need an amp for these headphone. Is there an awesome EQ on the e17 that beats what the full poweramp can do?
Sorry for the posts I won't reply till my E17 has had its 12 hours and I can mass with it.
I do see the possible value of the AT770pros but compared to the pioneer DJ2000 the Reloop HI Ends (3Hz??????? wow)
If you really just want a Dac for your computer there is a great one that is just a USB stick with a line out. Me? I'd get a full on audio interface for a few bucks more.
But buying an E17 just to pair with LOW IMPEDENCE headphone I don't get it!
I can blow these headphones with my android. Is that the idea, I turn down the amp on the Fiio and bump volume on my droid?
RIght now I'm getting great great bassie sound out of bass heavy music. Pretty bad sound for regular pop.
I come from hip hop....little Boosie's new album, thats bass head to me...do people really just listen to music with no mids and HIs and therefore I'm talking way out of my depth?
I've never thought much about CANs...I think I'm happy I found this site....more stuff to learn about
- producer, musician, computer tech,
Sorry man, but I can't quite figure out if you are trolling?
Long story, short version, if you have low impedance cans they may need more current than the source you are currently using can provide.
I use an amp with my HP notebook because the headphone jack on the HP sounds terrible, terrible, terrible. Muddy, foggy, veiled, doesn't output a lot of power either.
Plugging my E17 into the USB port on the HP notebook sounds better in every possible way.
I can reasonably assume that the E17 has a better DAC and better sounding headphone amp than the HP notebook.
And that's the short version.