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Oh sorry I meant an improvement over just an iPod Nano with no amp. 

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I am downgrading from a balanced (XLR) AMB Gamma2 DAC. If someone here offers a Fiio E17 plus paypal to trade with me, I will consider (please PM me). Thanks.


Edited by zzffnn - 12/4/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by Darkimmortal View Post

 

Thank **** it has a flawless S/PDIF input (sounds unbelievably good hooked up via optical to a xonar dx), now if only there was a cheap way to get S/PDIF on a laptop...

 

More laptops than you realize have this secretly built in to the headphone port. My MacBook Pro, for example, and I think one of my Toshibas but I can't remember for sure.

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Originally Posted by parasitius View Post

 

More laptops than you realize have this secretly built in to the headphone port. My MacBook Pro, for example, and I think one of my Toshibas but I can't remember for sure.

 

What the...?!   Seriously?  Have any idea how I can tell if I have it?  And is that optical or coax output by the Headphone jack? EDIT:  Oh, just read your mention of "optical to a xonar dx".  And google let me know "xonar dx" is an Asus sound-card thing.  Got it.

 

I wish I had the adapters & cables that came in the E17 box but I left it in my other place.  ...Assuming here the adapter(s) they provided in the box is all that is required; are there any different adapters required in addition to the onew CiiO gave us in the box to do this? 

 

Thanx


Edited by m8o - 12/4/12 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by m8o View Post

What the...?!   Seriously?  Have any idea how I can tell if I have it?  And is that optical or coax output by the Headphone jack? EDIT:  Oh, just read your mention of "optical to a xonar dx".  And google let me know "xonar dx" is an Asus sound-card thing.  Got it.

I wish I had the adapters & cables that came in the E17 box but I left it in my other place.  ...Assuming here the adapter(s) they provided in the box is all that is required; are there any different adapters required in addition to the onew CiiO gave us in the box to do this? 

Thanx
I think if any of the 3.5mm ports have red light coming out of them they support optical.
The adapter FiiO provided will serve to go from toslink (optical cable standard plug) to mini-toslink. If your computer also uses a stereo mini plug with optical support, then you will need another adapter. Unless your cable is already toslink to mini-toslink.

I may have gotten the naming wrong.
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Originally Posted by m8o View Post

What the...?!   Seriously?  Have any idea how I can tell if I have it?  And is that optical or coax output by the Headphone jack? EDIT:  Oh, just read your mention of "optical to a xonar dx".  And google let me know "xonar dx" is an Asus sound-card thing.  Got it.

I wish I had the adapters & cables that came in the E17 box but I left it in my other place.  ...Assuming here the adapter(s) they provided in the box is all that is required; are there any different adapters required in addition to the onew CiiO gave us in the box to do this? 

Thanx
CiiO provided many things smily_headphones1.gif
You can tell by reading or downloading your manual. Sometimes you may needto enable optical output through 3.5mm.
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n an accident i have lost my 85% hearing  in my one ear...and other ear normal..
i am a gamer n play counter strike 1.6...
at full window sound i can listen very thin sound from my damaged ear..
i need a very very loud amplification for my damaged ear..so i can enjoy my gaming..
when i placed mobile speaker on my damaged ear than i can able to listen music from that ear...so u can determine how much amplification i need...
can fiio e6 amp could do this..?
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

CiiO provided many things smily_headphones1.gif
You can tell by reading or downloading your manual. Sometimes you may needto enable optical output through 3.5mm.


Lol, you had me wondering who CiiO was, and I figured immediately it was a typo.  I then discovered the etymology of that higher-up in this thread...  -hahaha  ...Whoops!

 

I see that my laptop's sound card's hardware can support it, as other HP models that use the "IDT 92HD75B" have S/PDIF Toslink out of the headphone port.  But I'm thinking mine 8740w does not implement it. 

 

I'm now going down the path of taking the DisplayPort output from my 8740w and breaking out S/PDIF using a converter/switch/matrix box that breaks it out (as I have need of switching between 3 HDMI sources anyway w/o a high-end PrePro at my desk).  My only concern/worry there is I don't know if the S/PDIF is not just broken-out/converted from the HDMI signal, but rather the signal is produced via a re-sampling of the HDMI signal to produce the S/PDIF out.  And that to me is a questionable approach, as I worry it can have sync problems and introduce errors degrading the quality that I'm going for.  Anyone know definitively how exactly S/PDIF can be produced from HDMI?

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Originally Posted by kalbee View Post
I think if any of the 3.5mm ports have red light coming out of them they support optical. The adapter FiiO provided will serve to go from toslink (optical cable standard plug) to mini-toslink. If your computer also uses a stereo mini plug with optical support, then you will need another adapter. Unless your cable is already toslink to mini-toslink.

 

Thank you Kalbee

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Originally Posted by nirvana das View Post

n an accident i have lost my 85% hearing  in my one ear...and other ear normal..
i am a gamer n play counter strike 1.6...
at full window sound i can listen very thin sound from my damaged ear..
i need a very very loud amplification for my damaged ear..so i can enjoy my gaming..
when i placed mobile speaker on my damaged ear than i can able to listen music from that ear...so u can determine how much amplification i need...
can fiio e6 amp could do this..?

Blowing out your last ear is not a good idea. Why not play with your good ear with an earbud in?

 

IT depends on how "easy" your headphone is to drive. 

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Originally Posted by m8o View Post


Lol, you had me wondering who CiiO was, and I figured immediately it was a typo.  I then discovered the etymology of that higher-up in this thread...  -hahaha  ...Whoops!

 

I see that my laptop's sound card's hardware can support it, as other HP models that use the "IDT 92HD75B" have S/PDIF Toslink out of the headphone port.  But I'm thinking mine 8740w does not implement it. 

 

I'm now going down the path of taking the DisplayPort output from my 8740w and breaking out S/PDIF using a converter/switch/matrix box that breaks it out (as I have need of switching between 3 HDMI sources anyway w/o a high-end PrePro at my desk).  My only concern/worry there is I don't know if the S/PDIF is not just broken-out/converted from the HDMI signal, but rather the signal is produced via a re-sampling of the HDMI signal to produce the S/PDIF out.  And that to me is a questionable approach, as I worry it can have sync problems and introduce errors degrading the quality that I'm going for.  Anyone know definitively how exactly S/PDIF can be produced from HDMI?

HDMI allows for digital audio but S/PDIF exactly? I do not.

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Originally Posted by nirvana das View Post

n an accident i have lost my 85% hearing  in my one ear...and other ear normal..
i am a gamer n play counter strike 1.6...
at full window sound i can listen very thin sound from my damaged ear..
i need a very very loud amplification for my damaged ear..so i can enjoy my gaming..
when i placed mobile speaker on my damaged ear than i can able to listen music from that ear...so u can determine how much amplification i need...
can fiio e6 amp could do this..?
Assuming you want to be using a headset or headphones:
I'm guessing you would benefit from a balance function, which the E6 does not have.
Or you can probably do it from the Windows side.
I don't know how loud the E6 goes to though, sorry.
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Anyone else's battery life seem better than the advertised 15 hours? I use mine with my computer hooked to USB powering a Q701 at 6db gain at about 25-30 volume. I charge it once a week and I use it for 3-5 hours a day with USB charge turned off. When using it 3-5 hours a day it should only last 3-5 days, but I charge it once a week and when I charge it, it usually still shows 2-3 bars on the battery meter. I think the last time I charged it was Saturday, and here it is on Wednesday still showing 4 out of 5 bars on the battery meter. Just saying that it seems better than advertised.

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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

Anyone else's battery life seem better than the advertised 15 hours? I use mine with my computer hooked to USB powering a Q701 at 6db gain at about 25-30 volume. I charge it once a week and I use it for 3-5 hours a day with USB charge turned off. When using it 3-5 hours a day it should only last 3-5 days, but I charge it once a week and when I charge it, it usually still shows 2-3 bars on the battery meter. I think the last time I charged it was Saturday, and here it is on Wednesday still showing 4 out of 5 bars on the battery meter. Just saying that it seems better than advertised.

Plugging in through USB even with USB Chg off seems to give a much longer battery life. This could be that the computer is providing power over USB and thus you are really only powering amplifier and screen. This is just my guess

post #4889 of 6551

When plugged in to USB, the E17 draws power from the computer, be the USB charging on or off.

So basically with USB charge off, the only payload on the battery is the extra amount the USB cable is not providing.

 

Perhaps something along the lines of:

Power_Draw_USB_Charging_ON >= Power_Draw_USB_Charging_OFF

Battery_Consumption = Total_Consumption - Power_Draw_USB_Charging_OFF

 

You can pretty much go months on end without charging it, as long as it remains plugged to the computer.

The advertised battery life is when it is used without any USB connection made.

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Originally Posted by kalbee View Post

When plugged in to USB, the E17 draws power from the computer, be the USB charging on or off.

So basically with USB charge off, the only payload on the battery is the extra amount the USB cable is not providing.

 

Perhaps something along the lines of:

Power_Draw_USB_Charging_ON >= Power_Draw_USB_Charging_OFF

Battery_Consumption = Total_Consumption - Power_Draw_USB_Charging_OFF

 

You can pretty much go months on end without charging it, as long as it remains plugged to the computer.

The advertised battery life is when it is used without any USB connection made.

I see.

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