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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

It does say ALPEN on the back. I really dont like the fact that it came dead. Maybe i should contact Fiio or the seller about it.

 

Sorry, hard to promise the new unit came with fully charge, because some agents ship it by sea so it take quite long time on the sea. also products designed for audiophile usually consume more power than consumer electronics products. 

post #4712 of 6558
I was basing this what I remember I got with my charger. Sorry. When i initially charged it, it was with my Macbook pro while using it. That took 8 hours for me. And others that used lightweight laptop while using with no battery left have said same numbers.

Yep, every person is different and what you use. I back when I had it got 5 on average for full charge with iphone adapter.
post #4713 of 6558

Is the light around the power button going to change from purple to blue when its done charging, or will it always be purple when plugged in, even after its fuly charged? 

 

The reason i ask is because when i unplug it, the battery indicator shows full, but when plugged in the light is still purple.

post #4714 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


I've never heard the E09K, it just sounds like a good solution to your dilemma!
line out for your speakers, headphone jack, plus you can still use the E17 as a portable DAC/amp.

 

Thanks for you reply.  So I gather that you do not believe that the E17 can handle all these functions at the same time, and I should consider purchasing a head phone amp as well, something like the E09K, to provide me with more outputs.   Oh well....  I guess I will have to save up a little more money.... :)

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The answer is of course in the user manual provided with every E17. but for reference. Blue is on. Red is charging while off. Purple is charging while on, as its a mix of colors. After it charges, the light will disappear.
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After a night and a morning with my new E17 and AKG Q701, I am happy to report that this combination sounds great. Some people had me worried that a smallish portable amp would not suffice for the Q701, but there is plenty of power and headroom here. These to me, arent a headphone that was designed to be listened to at extreme volume anyway. The Q701 will get tiring at high volumes, so why use an amp that is waaay overkill in the power department. With my iPhone 4 as the source using a Fiio L3 LOD with the E17 on high gain (12db) I am still under 30 out of 60 on the volume control 99% of the time. I am actually listening at an average of about 25 (out of 60) on the volume control. For example 25 of 60 while listening to a song called Divinity by a band called Threshold is playing at about 82-85db measured with a Radio Shack spl meter. Low to mid 80's is usually where i like to listen. It may be a tad loud, but still safe for long periods. Some may say I am still not hearing these to their full potential, but who is to say what their full potential may be. Maybe my amp is only driving them to 95% of their full potential, but I am quite impressed with what I am hearing and can definitely say that an E17 is plenty for these. 

 

At the price of this setup, it seems like a steal. I got the Q701 for $240, and the E17 for $140, both brand new in sealed packages. So for $380 it's a great setup. Of course my source, the 32 gb iPhone 4 costs a bit of money too, but I already had that. I also have a laptop that I can use with this setup, but so far I have only plugged the E17 into my iPhone. I will try it with my laptop eventually. 

 

Also, I have not noticed any EMI from my CDMA iPhone messing with the E17 yet, and I Have it sitting right next to it, less than an inch away. Meanwhile the lesser E5 would be just about unusable with my iPhone without putting it in airplane mode. 

 

So far, very very pleased!

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The sound will only get better from your laptop. The DAC in the E17 performs really well.

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There is nothing wrong with the DAC in the iPhone 4 though. The iPhone 4 can be considered an audiophile player. 

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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

The sound will only get better from your laptop. The DAC in the E17 performs really well.

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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

There is nothing wrong with the DAC in the iPhone 4 though. The iPhone 4 can be considered an audiophile player. 

 

True, but i would have thought the dac in the E17 performs better considering it's a dedicated device. This is just me guessing though, don't take my word for it.

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I'm using it as a DAC with my laptop right now, it definitely doesn't sound noticeably worse. I may have to do some A/B testing. I was just about to say it's bassier as a DAC, but I just discovered that I had an EQ enabled in itunes. Sounds just as flat now as it does from my iPhone.

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True, but i would have thought the dac in the E17 performs better considering it's a dedicated device. This is just me guessing though, don't take my word for it.

post #4721 of 6558
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Originally Posted by gibosi View Post

Thanks for you reply.  So I gather that you do not believe that the E17 can handle all these functions at the same time, and I should consider purchasing a head phone amp as well, something like the E09K, to provide me with more outputs.   Oh well....  I guess I will have to save up a little more money.... smily_headphones1.gif

I think you are trying to drive a pair of powered speakers with the E17?
The E09K has a pre amp out jack for driving power amps and powered speakers.
The E17 + E09K would work if you wanted to use the DAC but needed a line out to drive powered speakers.
You would still have a USB input and optical input plus you could still listen to headphones with that step up.

The big advantage is you would not be using the headphone amp in the E17 to drive powered speakers, plus you would not be plugging and unplugging stuff all the time if you still wanted to use the E17 for portable use: the E17 would just drop into the E09K dock.
You would have to look at the E09K on the FiiO website to see if that is what you are looking for.
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Edited by Chris J - 11/3/12 at 10:44am
post #4722 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


I think you are trying to drive a pair of powered speakers with the E17?
The E09K has a pre amp out jack for driving power amps and powered speakers.
The E17 + E09K would work if you wanted to use the DAC but needed a line out to drive powered speakers.
You would still have a USB input and optical input plus you could still listen to headphones with that step up.
The big advantage is you would not be using the headphone amp in the E17 to drive powered speakers, plus you would not be plugging and unplugging stuff all the time if you still wanted to use the E17 for portable use: the E17 would just drop into the E09K dock.
You would have to look at the E09K on the FiiO website to see if that is what you are looking for.
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Not sure if I'm helping here, but the E17 will function as both a DAC / headphone amp, and also function as a DAC only and provide a line-out signal for speakers, all at the same time. For this all that is needed is the ($9.46) FiiO L7 line-out dock for the E17. The E09K isn't necessary.

 

I have my E17 serving as a DAC / headphone amp, and also serving as a DAC only and providing a line-out signal to my desktop 2.1 speaker rig using the FiiO L7 line-out dock.

 

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L7-Line-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351965158&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+l7

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Originally Posted by StratocasterMan View Post

Not sure if I'm helping here, but the E17 will function as both a DAC / headphone amp, and also function as a DAC only and provide a line-out signal for speakers, all at the same time. For this all that is needed is the ($9.46) FiiO L7 line-out dock for the E17. The E09K isn't necessary.

I have my E17 serving as a DAC / headphone amp, and also serving as a DAC only and providing a line-out signal to my desktop 2.1 speaker rig using the FiiO L7 line-out dock.

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L7-Line-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351965158&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+l7

$9.46 !

What can I say?
Edited by Chris J - 11/3/12 at 11:13am
post #4724 of 6558
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Originally Posted by StratocasterMan View Post

 

Not sure if I'm helping here, but the E17 will function as both a DAC / headphone amp, and also function as a DAC only and provide a line-out signal for speakers, all at the same time. For this all that is needed is the ($9.46) FiiO L7 line-out dock for the E17. The E09K isn't necessary.

 

I have my E17 serving as a DAC / headphone amp, and also serving as a DAC only and providing a line-out signal to my desktop 2.1 speaker rig using the FiiO L7 line-out dock.

 

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L7-Line-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351965158&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+l7

 

This is very good news indeed!   My wallet is feeling very relieved that I might not have to purchase an E09K in addition to the E17.  And do you think it will be possible to have a digital input connected at the same time as well?  I hope I can then simply select between USB input and digital input on the E17? Thanks!


Edited by gibosi - 11/3/12 at 7:13pm
post #4725 of 6558
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Originally Posted by gibosi View Post

This is very good news indeed!   My wallet is feeling very relieved that I might not have to purchase an E09K in addition to the E17.  And do you think it will be possible to have a digital input connected at the same time as well?  I hope I can then simply select between USB input and digital input on the E17? Thanks!

 

Yup! The E17 has an input button and you can just select between "USB," "OPT," and "COX" using that button.

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