FiiO E17 "ALPEN" - First Impression + Final Thought - Page 306

I have a question regarding the non portable use of the E17, when plugged in via USB and USB CHARGE set to OFF, the battery decharges. Audio input is optical, not USB. I thought I could keep it powered via USB and do not use the battery at all. Although the lifetime of one time seems to be amazing, I own the E17 for about 3 weeks and had to charge it two times, almost daily use. Or is this battery natural because the energie can't be stored forever?

Hey guys.

I got my E17 and i'm trying to use it in this setup:

Xonar Essense ST --(AUX)--> E17 (AUX) ---> Headphones

I.e. I'm trying use my PC DAC and just use the E17 for amping. But for some reason, i can't get AUX to work, even when the E17 is not USB charging. I've tried changing the default playback device back to Xonar Essence (Was set to E17 when i plugged it in)  in my sound settings in Win7, to no avail.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Why is your headphones plugged in the AUX of E17?

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Originally Posted by wrexgrunt 

Why is your headphones plugged in the AUX of E17?

Drawing wasn't clear : )   Xonar Essense ST --(AUX)-->       E17 (Set to Aux)  ----(Headphone out)-->    Headphones

But disregard. For some reason, when i set default playback device to my Xonar, it somehow reverted back to the E17 SPDIF device. I did a reboot and it works now.

But there's some really annoying noise when i run it through the E17 which isn't there if i just plug the headphones directly into the Xonar. Gain is 0, even. Ugh.

I need help... While listening to music I hooked the headphone cable around a door knob and ripped the headphone jack out of the FiiO E17. Now, the headphone line out on the E17 is loose, broken; no audio unless I hold the headphone jack.  I suspect the the headphone line out is internally broken.  Is the E17 shot or can this be fixed?

Thanks 

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Originally Posted by Mic14 

I need help... While listening to music I hooked the headphone cable around a door knob and ripped the headphone jack out of the FiiO E17. Now, the headphone line out on the E17 is loose, broken; no audio unless I hold the headphone jack.  I suspect the the headphone line out is internally broken.  Is the E17 shot or can this be fixed?

 

Thanks 

It depends, picture or video? But most likely unless you are skilled with an solder iron and various other things, its ...gonna be a pain to use.

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Originally Posted by Kjeldsen 

 

Drawing wasn't clear : )   Xonar Essense ST --(AUX)-->       E17 (Set to Aux)  ----(Headphone out)-->    Headphones

 

But disregard. For some reason, when i set default playback device to my Xonar, it somehow reverted back to the E17 SPDIF device. I did a reboot and it works now.

 

But there's some really annoying noise when i run it through the E17 which isn't there if i just plug the headphones directly into the Xonar. Gain is 0, even. Ugh.

Your playback device needs to be set to the ASUS, you then take a 3.5mm transfer cable(both ends are male 3.5mm) and plug one end into the main volume out(generally green color) of the ASUS card and the other into the E17 AUX in on the bottom and set the E17 to AUX. And then done.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 

 

It depends, picture or video? But most likely unless you are skilled with an solder iron and various other things, its ...gonna be a pain to use.

Your playback device needs to be set to the ASUS, you then take a 3.5mm transfer cable(both ends are male 3.5mm) and plug one end into the main volume out(generally green color) of the ASUS card and the other into the E17 AUX in on the bottom and set the E17 to AUX. And then done.

Thanks bo. I seem to be doing all this, and i can use the E17 in the way you describe. The Headphone out of the Asus is a Jack, so i have a Jack-MiniJack converter on it, into the E17 Aux (set to aux). What i'm experiencing is some really annoying disturbance in the signal this way, which i don't get when i'm plugged directly into the Asus. Could it be that the E17 is actually amping something that i wasn't noticing before? Might a different cable help? I'm using the standard extension cord for my Denon AH-D1100's.

Another question: If i had a pair of headphones with full size Jack, how would you use that with an E17, since it's just 3.5mm? Do you guys use converters?

Cheers! 

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Originally Posted by feiao 

 

For this cable  Mini M/M 5.0mm OD Molded Cable, you need to use the optical adapter, connect the 3.5mm connector to your Dell XPS, and them connect the other end of connector ( square shape ) to the optical adapter, and the plug the adapter to the SPDIF in of E17.

 

BTW, we are making a new 3.5 mini to 3.5 mini Toslink cable so our user don't need to use the adapter which may cause signal loss and some other problem. the new cable like below, the retail price will be around $10. model name L12, ETA, JULY

I've tried searching for this cable at many of FiiO's european distributors, without luck. Is this product not out yet or am i just looking in the wrong place?

I am planning to buy a DAP/android phone pairing it up with my E17.

I saw that new ipod touch 5G has no hope (even line out) in supporting E17.

iPad is not portable.

Using the DAC of E17 is not a must, as long as the DAP has good SQ with it's line out.

Any recommendation? I am especially interested in Android solution.

Thanks!

Just a thought but you could be overdriving your E17 with the Xonar output(analog). I would go the S/PDIF route if I were you.

I can't find the specs for the max input voltage for the E17 AUX, but Xonar has an output voltage of up to 2 Vrms.

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Originally Posted by wrexgrunt 

Just a thought but you could be overdriving your E17 with the Xonar output(analog). I would go the S/PDIF route if I were you.

 

I can't find the specs for the max input voltage for the E17 AUX, but Xonar has an output voltage of up to 2 Vrms.

That's alos a very good one, but it generally adds major distortion, THD and basically just heavy distortion.

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Originally Posted by duyu 

I am planning to buy a DAP/android phone pairing it up with my E17.

 

I saw that new ipod touch 5G has no hope (even line out) in supporting E17.

iPad is not portable.

Using the DAC of E17 is not a must, as long as the DAP has good SQ with it's line out.

 

Any recommendation? I am especially interested in Android solution.

Thanks!

It seems you are considering Apple so an iPod Touch 4G?

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Originally Posted by Kjeldsen 

 

Thanks bo. I seem to be doing all this, and i can use the E17 in the way you describe. The Headphone out of the Asus is a Jack, so i have a Jack-MiniJack converter on it, into the E17 Aux (set to aux). What i'm experiencing is some really annoying disturbance in the signal this way, which i don't get when i'm plugged directly into the Asus. Could it be that the E17 is actually amping something that i wasn't noticing before? Might a different cable help? I'm using the standard extension cord for my Denon AH-D1100's.

 

Another question: If i had a pair of headphones with full size Jack, how would you use that with an E17, since it's just 3.5mm? Do you guys use converters?

 

Cheers! 

Are you plugging a Quarter inch TO eighth inch jack into the headphone out? It is the black one right next to the white RCA out. 

Type in quarter inch adapter if you don't know what I mean.

It may be that it is in fact amping something, try the E17 by itself to see if this issue is a fault E17

Nope, most full size headphones that someone with the E17 would generally buy come with a removable Quarter inch headphone jack where when you twist it off, becomes eighth inch. Those that can't thread off generally shouldn't be used with the e17

It may also be the E17 in the position you are putting it with some cables are getting EMI

That cable doesn't seem out yet.

Hey everyone, i'm getting my lyr in today, and i'm not sure how exactly i should use the e17 as a dac. I have the l7, so would i use the line out on that and the lo bypass switch? Or, would i use the headphone out. Thanks in advance!

my e17 review

http://www.head-fi.org/t/630510/review-fiio-e17-a-very-solid-little-device