FiiO E17 "ALPEN" - First Impression + Final Thought - Page 111

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Originally Posted by l00l 

So E17 then? I will be using it with a pair of Beyerdynamic 990 pro headphones.

what ohms? i tried the Beyers at 80 ohms and they work absolutley fine and great with E17. 250 ohm it seems from other comments also works, but just enough. i've only tried 80 ohms so i can tell you that.

there are cheaper solutions really if you just need a Wolfson DAC. what you are paying from E7 and D-Zero, is the sonic differences of teh amp. which do make up a lot of what you hear. 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 

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Originally Posted by l00l 

So E17 then? I will be using it with a pair of Beyerdynamic 990 pro headphones.

what ohms? i tried the Beyers at 80 ohms and they work absolutley fine and great with E17. 250 ohm it seems from other comments also works, but just enough. i've only tried 80 ohms so i can tell you that.

 

there are cheaper solutions really if you just need a Wolfson DAC. what you are paying from E7 and D-Zero, is the sonic differences of teh amp. which do make up a lot of what you hear. 

250 ohm seems to "work"........  you're scaring me Bowei, scaring me -_-
 

250 ohm, yes. you think the E17 is not powerfull enough?

i didn't say that. i have read many posts on the E17 being just enough for the 250 ohms. well not the E17 but the E11. the e17 has more power and control in high gain as opposed to E11 so it should work. use the search option or google the 250 ohm beyers with E11. there should also have been people that have gotten that answered already. 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 

i didn't say that. i have read many posts on the E17 being just enough for the 250 ohms. well not the E17 but the E11. the e17 has more power and control in high gain as opposed to E11 so it should work. use the search option or google the 250 ohm beyers with E11. there should also have been people that have gotten that answered already. 

Maybe somebody who has the E17 and uses it with the Beyer 990 pro can comment on that! Would be great.

But what would mean it "works" anyway? I mean, if it works everything is great. At least that´s my definition of the word.

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Originally Posted by l00l 

Maybe somebody who has the E17 and uses it with the Beyer 990 pro can comment on that! Would be great.

 

But what would mean it "works" anyway? I mean, if it works everything is great. At least that´s my definition of the word.

sorry. bad wording again. Their are many 250 ohm beyer owners with E11. you should look around at that and use it as a very accurate indicator.

I use the 990 pro 250 ohm with the Fiio E6 right now and it seems to work just fine. Obviously I can not say how it would work with other headphones though. But the E6 brings up the volume considerably and doesn´t sound strange or something in any way. And I would assume that with the E17 everything will be just better.

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Originally Posted by gEaK 

As I posted earlier, my reply from mp4nation when asked about this matter was:

 

 

"I am sorry that the E17 are delayed but the issue with their production is beyond our control."

 

 

At no point has Fiio said any of the retailers have/are doing anything wrong, so I'm not quite sure who is at fault here.

In my mind, it's the dealer that's at fault when they take a pre-order for a product that a) they don't have stock for and b) that they don't know when they will receive stock. I dealt with Headphone Bar as one of Fiio's authorized Canadian dealers. They were very forthcoming when taking my pre-order. They let me know that they didn't have stock and couldn't confirm when I would receive my product. I was very keen to receive the E17 (and E9; I ordered a bundle of both) so I kept emailing them and they always kept me informed as to the status. It arrived within one business day of what they stated, but I blame the one day delay on the post office, not the dealer.

Alas it seems that mp4nation and possibly other dealers aren't as forthcoming and instead try to entice as many orders as possible, with no way of being able to fulfill them and maintain customer happiness. It's too bad - I've heard decent things about them and their pricing and deals are certainly attractive. Instead I'll take a dealer that's upfront and always ready to answer my questions any day. Buying 'local' definitely had its advantages this time around.

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Originally Posted by SoundDreamer 

Firstly and lastly  you need to lighten up slick. Some of your Posts on this Thread seem way to confrontational. 

 

For the record, I did in no way put the blame on Fiio for not receiving my E17 from mp4nation. 

 

Believe me, I have lightened up. Admittedly, it's very hard to read inflection in a typewritten post. If you heard me recite the text as written, you'd realize I could care less and am pretty far from being confrontational. Just trying to be informative and keep things straight - it seems that the biggest problem with forums like Head-Fi is trying to keep people on track (myself included) and getting people to actually read what's already been written about a given product. And yes, you did change your post to state mp4nation, not Fiio... my comment was not directed at you alone - it was a launching point to respond to all those who did want to blame Fiio. I really have no reason to care - after all, they're in business and can defend themselves, but I hate seeing blame placed where it's not deserved.

I truly wish we lived in a world where instant gratification was a reality and we wouldn't have anything to complain about, but we all know that'll never happen. As long as Head-Fi exists and we continue to read these threads, our wallets will keep shrinking and our anticipation will keep growing. 

I'm having issues with my e17. Every once in a while, I start getting a ton of static and crackling feedback noise, and it only goes away if I unplug the unit and turn it off before re-inserting the USB. Even then, sometimes it takes a few tries. Anyone else having this issue? Also, sometimes when I try to watch a YouTube video, the sound will not work unless I do these steps and reload the page repeatedly.

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Originally Posted by koremora 

I'm having issues with my e17. Every once in a while, I start getting a ton of static and crackling feedback noise, and it only goes away if I unplug the unit and turn it off before re-inserting the USB. Even then, sometimes it takes a few tries. Anyone else having this issue? Also, sometimes when I try to watch a YouTube video, the sound will not work unless I do these steps and reload the page repeatedly.

the only crackling i get is when i am in SPDIF mode and unplugging and or pluggin in the optical cable. nobody else is reporting this problem. it could be your computer..believe me..many times it is the computer.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 

the only crackling i get is when i am in SPDIF mode and unplugging and or pluggin in the optical cable. nobody else is reporting this problem. it could be your computer..believe me..many times it is the computer.

To be fair it could be the same as the crackling and static reported pages back by me and a few others.  Seems to be a USB latency issue IMO.

Try updating your audio driver

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Originally Posted by AgentXXL 

In my mind, it's the dealer that's at fault when they take a pre-order for a product that a) they don't have stock for and b) that they don't know when they will receive stock.

Hmm, I assumed Fiio would have told the dealers that they would supply X amount of units on whatever date.

Feiao also gave dates of availability in this thread, which were later pushed back.

I'm trying not to make a huge deal out of this as I believe both sides are partially at fault. It's a little annoying however when it seems as soon as anyone utters a negative word about Fiio they get jumped on.

Believe it or not I am still a fan of Fiio as well as a consumer, though this is an unfortunate situation. It would help a lot if myself and all the other people waiting could get some concrete information. I've PM'd both Cathy and Feiao as well as numerous retailers and recieved nothing of signifigance.

I'd really like to know when mp4nation is due to receive their next shipment, and how many units it will contain.

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Originally Posted by koremora 

I'm having issues with my e17. Every once in a while, I start getting a ton of static and crackling feedback noise, and it only goes away if I unplug the unit and turn it off before re-inserting the USB. Even then, sometimes it takes a few tries. Anyone else having this issue? Also, sometimes when I try to watch a YouTube video, the sound will not work unless I do these steps and reload the page repeatedly.

Same happens with mine occasionally, but it works immediately again unplugging and reinserting usb. It happens only when using it with USB on my laptop, never when using line out from iPad or hi-fi using AUX input.

Anybody check if it's some sort of power standby on the USB port? Could be a Windows or BIOS issue, either one.