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post #1 of 26
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Hi Everyone!

 

I stumbled across this site and after doing a lot of reading I'm looking for a little advice before I pull the trigger and purchase a new pair of headphones.  I'm hoping the experts here can lead me in the right direction!

 

Preface:  I've owned a pair of Bose Tri-ports for the past 8-9 years.  I use them when my wife and I travel.  They do the job but with another long trip coming up, it's time to get the best sound experience I can in the $200 or less range...which I'm gathering could still be a very mind blowing experience. I'll be on a plane for 8+ hours so I'd like something with great sound as well as comfort.  I've used the Tri Ports and have been able to suffice comfort wise for that same time period...obviously, they get uncomfortable on top of the skull over that long so more comfort would be nice but I'd be willing to sacrifice if the sound is a major difference. I'll note that I'm just a lover of music and these would be solely for listening and enjoying my collection.

 

Based on that and my reading it seems like two pairs of cans are standing out:

 

1. Audio-Technica ATH-M50S: Seems like the best bang for the buck sound wise.

2. Beyerdynamic DT 770: Seems to offer the best comfort level.

 

 

So, given that I'll be on a plane for the majority of my listening, I'm assuming I should stick with closed-end, correct?

 

Then my next question is, for someone that listens to a variety of genre's rock, folk, jazz, house and a minute amount of hip-hop but doesn't need an over-based set.  Would I best be served sound-wise with the A-Ts or is the difference fairly minimal to a non-audiophile (so far) between the two making the Beyer's a better choice due to the comfort factor? 

 

Or, is there another pair that might be best suited to my needs?  Any and all advice would be much appreciated. 

 

 

Sphinx


Edited by Sphinx780 - 12/29/11 at 1:15pm
post #2 of 26

Considering you listen to such a variety of music and also would like something that isolates well for long flights, I'd recommend the Fischer Audio FA-003 or its cousin, the Brainwavz HM5. It is a neutral can, so no frequency will overpower another, and the earpads isolate sound very well. However, it may get hot under the pads after a few hours.

 

Sincerely,

post #3 of 26
I have found the m50 to be very comfortable and my friend who flew with me for 5 hours uses them. he used them through the entire flight. I have not used the 770. no idea about their comfort but they do have some bass emphasis so just be aware of that. I find the m50 to have sufficient and powerful bass but for others it's not enough. with that said I would probably recommend the m50 unless you are a basshead.
post #4 of 26
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@ ssrock64: Just curious on your reasoning, are the Fischer's better sound-wise iyo or is comfort the reason for these over the m50's?  Where do you look to order these from, they seem pretty scattershot to find after doing a search.

 

 

@LLoyd: I'm definitely not a basshead.  I appreciate bass when it's there, like the MMBosstone's 'Kinder Words' intro or when throwing in a little Basement Jaxx but only as a part of the whole so I don't think I'd be disappointed in the m50s bass response from what I've been reading.

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to chime in, I really appreciate it. 

post #5 of 26
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@ ssrock64: Just curious on your reasoning, are the Fischer's better sound-wise iyo or is comfort the reason for these over the m50's?  Where do you look to order these from, they seem pretty scattershot to find after doing a search.



The M50s are actually pretty uncomfortable for me after long periods because they clamp quite a lot. I've put them over a tissue box for days, etc, and have listened over 1000 hours on my pair, but they're still pretty uncomfortable for long sessions. Also, I think they'd be a bit bassy for your tastes, hence the recommendation of the FA pair, which is neutral and won't over-accentuate any frequency. In addition, I find the 003 more comfortable for long-term wearing than the M50.

post #6 of 26
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Great to know.  I've got a larger melon so I could see myself having the comfort issues with the M50s if that's the case.  

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Brainwavz are just a different branded version of the same headphone, correct?

post #7 of 26
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Great to know.  I've got a larger melon so I could see myself having the comfort issues with the M50s if that's the case.  

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Brainwavz are just a different branded version of the same headphone, correct?



 

Yes, Brainwavz and LINDY have their respective copies, the HM5 and Premium Hi-Fi. It has not yet been officially confirmed if they share the same drivers, but the general consensus is that they do. I myself have heard the HM5 and FA-003 and they sounded the same, albeit I didn't have my test tracks with me when sampling the HM5.

 

Sincerely,

post #8 of 26

I would get the Ultrasone HFI 780's. Period. The M50's are bass heavy, and muddy bass at that. If you look ont he web. there are many ATH M50 vs HFI 580 threads. the HFI 580 always wins. the difference between the HFI 580 and the HFI 780 is that the 780 has less bass, but is still tight and pronounced with a more focus on highs and vocals that you will love. $158 for the HFI 580. I would also recommend an amp to really make these shine. While the HFI series are easy to drive, i find that it's just not enough for the majority of my music. I would then also recomend the FiiO E6 and FiiO L9 LOD(if you have an ipod)

the total will be the best $200 you ever spent

HFI 780 $158

FiiO E6-$26

FiiO L9- $14

 

don't be afraid of the bass in ultrasone's. its fantastic. the bass doesn't show up on songs you don't want it to. and it blows your mind when you start hearing good bass on the songs you want. opening most of my rock songs. the drums just give that little thump and little impact in the background without drowining ANYTHING out. I have the 580's. you will LOVE the HFI 780's


Edited by bowei006 - 12/29/11 at 2:10pm
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
How are the Ultrasones for long term comfort? Seeing some conflicting reviews.
post #10 of 26
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How are the Ultrasones for long term comfort? Seeing some conflicting reviews.


That's exactly what they are. Conflicting based on tastes. I'm sure you've read my review(...it's the first regular person written review if you search anything about the HFI 580's) and it says it all there

"On head Feel: Pretty solid, I actually wanted a pair with good clamping force and these deliverd :) the pads are also pretty comfortable. I can wear these for 4 hours tops. unlike 2 hours for the Shure 440's. Ears get sweaty after a bit of listening though.

 

UPDATE:ears no longer get sweaty at all as others have noted, they are not really to clampy as others may say in my opinion, however i do see a problem if you wear glasses. These things...don't clamp evenly or enough i guess, my Shure's don't either. more on this in teh sound quality update section. the top headband pad can also be "felt" sometimes. it's one of those times when you just happen to feel the random stuff about your headphones and the headphone band pad is usually the first thing. it can get prety hard and annoying. but i find that pushing down on the pad from the top and then reaadjusting my headphones to accompany  that new slight sag works and you don't feel it after a bit. :)"

 

They are decent for me. Tops of 4 hours like i said. the pads are pretty plush but your ears WILL get sweaty at first. you will get used to it. the headband thing at the top is annoying. push down on it and you will forget about it.

post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 

@Bowei006-

 

I did read your review, thanks for the suggestion.  When looking over a myriad of reviews last night it seemed that comfort was an issue what was present in a higher percentage of reviews than some of the others.  So I'm just trying to find the best balance of comfort and sound.  Worst case with whatever I decide to buy, half way through the flight I could throw something under the headphone band to relieve some pressure.  I'm sure I'll be happy with any of the suggestions here and now it's just weeding through all of the information trying to make the most informed decision :-)

post #12 of 26
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@Bowei006-

 

I did read your review, thanks for the suggestion.  When looking over a myriad of reviews last night it seemed that comfort was an issue what was present in a higher percentage of reviews than some of the others.  So I'm just trying to find the best balance of comfort and sound.  Worst case with whatever I decide to buy, half way through the flight I could throw something under the headphone band to relieve some pressure.  I'm sure I'll be happy with any of the suggestions here and now it's just weeding through all of the information trying to make the most informed decision :-)


the ath m50's are a bit more comfortable, but as you see in reviews. the HFI 580 is better and less expensive. the M50's are more comfortable but still not the most comfortable things around...hmm maybe Vmoda LP....it's basicallyy all bass with little or minor focus on mids and highs 

 

post #13 of 26
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Ever try the FA 003s?  The more I dig into reviews on them, they seem pretty dang solid on all fronts.

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the ath m50's are a bit more comfortable, but as you see in reviews. the HFI 580 is better and less expensive. the M50's are more comfortable but still not the most comfortable things around...hmm maybe Vmoda LP....it's basicallyy all bass with little or minor focus on mids and highs 

 



 

post #14 of 26
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Ever try the FA 003s?  The more I dig into reviews on them, they seem pretty dang solid on all fronts.



 



The FA-003s are great cans for the money, and a great deal in the headphone world. Being neutral they won't have accented bass like the Ultrasones and M50 would, but they're solidly-built, great-sounding cans for the money.

post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 

I'm definitely getting an itchy trigger finger on the Brainwavz for the price thanks to your suggestion.
 

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The FA-003s are great cans for the money, and a great deal in the headphone world. Being neutral they won't have accented bass like the Ultrasones and M50 would, but they're solidly-built, great-sounding cans for the money.



 

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