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post #16 of 46

I found it at 112 db. I may or may not got it working. Am I supposed to be able to adjust the settings in real time. I hear no difference when I try to play with the settings even when restarting and changing profiles.

 

Should I use another player then foobar2000?


Edited by oqvist - 2/18/13 at 1:31pm
post #17 of 46

Crossfeed is not always a dramatic sound shift - depending on source and headphones it can be eaten up by other factors, in my experience. But it can also add a nice new dimension to your listening (or in my case, help better emulate my monitoring speakers, when using headphones).

 

Check to see if the plugin is working by going mono, or muting with in (or swapping phase). Then you can play with the settings (wider soundstage, center dB, etc.).

post #18 of 46

I was using iems so was hoping to detect some difference. the naive software crossfeed and b2sp do mess up the sound. Not quite that I am after but well at least they make a difference I can hear.

 

I tried mono and all settings and there is just no audbile change at all that I can detect?

post #19 of 46

I think If you select a phase (like the L phase) and then hit mono, you'll hear what is being fed across. 

post #20 of 46

Will try that. I tried the headplug plugin for winamp. I just think it´s insanely hard to hear the difference on plugins that don´t heavilly distort the sound?

 

I haven´t been all that strategic with my music choice though. Headplug is operating I believe because if I kill output gain I loose all sound. But all the other settings on a 30 minute listen I have not been able to tell anything. Maybe untrained ears haven´t really listened to music for two months or so.

post #21 of 46

IME there are mostly three kinds of xfeed:

-those that model a room and sound utterly colored(ie Isone Pro)

-those that moni'ish the sound to death with a dead simple and boring sounding algorithm

-those that only project a hardly audible "phantom" center image meant to make your brain happy to hear in plain stereo and not dual-mono anymore.

post #22 of 46
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

-those that only project a hardly audible "phantom" center image meant to make your brain happy to hear in plain stereo and not dual-mono anymore.

 

This is mostly what Monitor does.

post #23 of 46

I beg to differ as 112dB Monitor is meant to mimick an anechoic chamber, and that's how it sounds to my ears: http://www.112db.com/redline/monitor/help/Redline%20Monitor%20Manual.pdf

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The control was modeled after precise measurements obtained from recording a ‘dummy’ head model with in-ear microphones in an anechoic chamber

 

I tried all the xfeed VST plugins I could find and listened to each of them for a long while happy_face1.gif

post #24 of 46

Interesting. I don't really notice much coloration or anything, and the phase shift is pretty minor. Which is why I put it in the last category. 

post #25 of 46

 

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Originally Posted by liamstrain View Post

Interesting. I don't really notice much coloration or anything, and the phase shift is pretty minor. Which is why I put it in the last category. 

Yes I don´t hear much difference. I don´t feel I get a more in front soundstage or more sound in both ears or anything with monitor. Tried the phase shift but couldn´t see that anything changed either.

Same with headbug I can´t see that it affect the sound in any way too.

 

But maybe I don´t have them running. I need some technician to come home and setup my PC for this stuff lol.

Wish there was some demo track or something which was made so you can be sure you have the plugins running.

 

 

post #26 of 46

I got my Holographic Ear One now. Okay the crossfeed in this amp really let me understand what it´s all about. Just listening an hour but switching it off and it get quite distracting with the wider then deep soundstage and separate channels.

A bit annoying because what do I do with my other superb amps that don´t have X-feed if I get really hooked. What do they say if you don´t have a problem you create one :p

post #27 of 46
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

IME there are mostly three kinds of xfeed:

-those that model a room and sound utterly colored(ie Isone Pro)

-those that moni'ish the sound to death with a dead simple and boring sounding algorithm

-those that only project a hardly audible "phantom" center image meant to make your brain happy to hear in plain stereo and not dual-mono anymore.

Nobody is forcing you to use the room acoustic settings in Isone. There is a simple switch that allows you to turn off that feature. Once off Isone does not add any coloration unless you don't properly dial in the HRTF function (which is basically a customized cross feed). Personally I use Isone but I don't use their room acoustic settings function. 

post #28 of 46

Has somebody some laymans guide to the perfect PC crossfeed that still sound natural but give the proper function? I mean must be crossfeed that is much better then what I managed? One day with the Ear One I totally get what X-feed is about where I was a complete questionmark before. But I don´t understand why it can´t be done on the software side of things so it´s at least close?

 

 

post #29 of 46

I tried a crossfeed plugin with WinAmp and the results were very positive (I believe it was "Headplug" ).  But, I use the J.River Media Jukebox for many other reasons.  Does anyone know of a good crossfeed plugin for it?
 

post #30 of 46

how did you install headplug?

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