Originally Posted by dooodstevenn
I have some htf600's on the way, 30 bucks from amazon so i figured i'd try them to see what all the hype is about, will try to do out of box comparisons because i didnt burn in the xb500's for too long, only about 10 hrs. does anyone know the suggested burn in for the panny's?
The HTF600 improves a lot with burn-in though, up to around 50hrs or so it will change a lot and go back and forth, it's a crazy ride, people who haven't believed in burn-in have become believers with this headphone so don't necessarily try to base everything on out of box sound.
Typical scenarios with HTF600:
Out of box, somewhat muffled midrange and bass response, cramped in soundstage
Bass response disappears sometimes in the burn-in process (you'd be suprised how many people report this) and then comes back stronger than ever later on
Mids come more forward & gets more detailed/clearer sounding
Soundstage takes the longest to improve
The highs will always remain slightly recessed on these headphones, it's slightly less so than XB500 though, and definitely more even. It's should be more forward and even mids and highs and a bit weaker bass output, especially in the subbass the HTF600 doesn't extend nearly as well (but hardly any headphones do anyway) but still very acceptable.
You can get XB500 sounding nice and well balanced with EQing no doubt but it needs quite a lot balancing if you want to get it just about "right", for example I recommended these iTunes settings to a XB500 user earlier today (he also had came to similar settings before seeing mine)
Listening with settings like these it's hard to justify either HTF600 or M-Audio Q40 I use over them, it's just improves that much and it's the headphone that has benefitted by far the most by EQing of any headphones that I've tried but if you listen clearly you can still hear a headphone that doesn't need any EQing whatsoever will sound better than not having to use a low quality EQ like iTunes 10-band EQ (I normally use my soundcard's EQ which works better if need to EQ). Ofc headphones are more than just frequency balance but that's where I think XB500 does quite well for the price if you just balance it out a bit better as the muffled sound coming from the unbalanced frequency response is by far its biggest weakness.
Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/30/11 at 1:53am