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post #1306 of 1600
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Originally Posted by punit View Post
 

Nice ! Did you run it for 4-5 hours continuously after the mod ? Do you find that it gets more hot than before as the wood may hinder heat dissipation ?

Thank you very much!

I used it last night for 2-3 hrs with no heat issues at all. As a matter of fact my amp never got hot on me, I feel it actually always ran just slightly warm, because I was very surprised that it wasn't running warmer than it did when it was stock (no wood). I did notice it ran a little warmer with the GZ34 in it though, but I don't have ant heat issues due to the wood.

post #1307 of 1600

Last night I also listened too he WA6 for 4-5 hrs straight, and your question about the heat had entered my mind while listening…so I reached over and all of the wood was falling off the amp (just kidding), the amp was actually cold, I mean not even warm at all!

Does anyone else find this with their WA6? 

post #1308 of 1600
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Last night I also listened too he WA6 for 4-5 hrs straight, and your question about the heat had entered my mind while listening…so I reached over and all of the wood was falling off the amp (just kidding), the amp was actually cold, I mean not even warm at all!

Does anyone else find this with their WA6? 

My WA6 be cool.

post #1309 of 1600
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post
 

My WA6 be cool.

Ok, so at least its not just me who notices this, I find it very strange that it stays so cool.

post #1310 of 1600
I finally got a USAF 596 for my WA-6SE. The adapter is coming from Hong Kong so it will be little while before I am able to test it out.

Since the 596 does not have an alignment key, is there a correct orientation for it when you insert it into the adapter? The adapter looks to be keyed

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-596-to-5U4G-Vacuum-tube-adapter-socket-converter-02-/290973109145?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43bf594b99

It appears on most pictures that the logo is in front for the WA-6SE.
post #1311 of 1600

Dosen't make a difference in mine (WA22) how it is inserted into the adapter. The "Mighty" is really great with HD 800, what drivers are you using ?

post #1312 of 1600
Currently using Fat Bottle Motorola 6FD7 with a Psvane WE-274b replica rectifier. It is my favorite combination for electronic music through HE-500s.

I have been seriously considering upgrading to the WA22. I just feel I could be getting more from the HD800s then either my WA2 or WA-6SE. I don't plan on leaving the Woo family. On top of sounding great, they look great.

I assume all 6FD7s sound the same as I also have a backup pair from Woo that are unlabeled.
post #1313 of 1600
The 596 has 2 pins that are larger diameter than the others, so it it only fits in the adapter with correct orientation.
post #1314 of 1600
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Originally Posted by Glam Bash View Post

The 596 has 2 pins that are larger diameter than the others, so it it only fits in the adapter with correct orientation.


you are right, I just tried putting it in different angles & it went in in only one angle, didn't notice it before. Hmm... guess never paid attention.

post #1315 of 1600

I just don't get the Grado hate around here.  It's sonic signature may not be your cup of tea, but they are fine headphones.  I wouldn't trade my RS1i's for anything else I have yet heard.  It is almost like bashing Grado is the cool audiophile hipster thing to do.  I see them lumped in often with Beats and Bose.  And that is undeserved.  

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by silversurfer616 View Post
 

You are lucky that you don't live in New Zealand.

No MEETS here and headphones you can audition are Grado and Beats!!!

No amazon either where you can send stuff back in case you don't like it!
 

post #1316 of 1600
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Originally Posted by Glam Bash View Post

The 596 has 2 pins that are larger diameter than the others, so it it only fits in the adapter with correct orientation.

+1
post #1317 of 1600

If someone is putting Grado in the same category as Beats, you can just smile and wave boys, smile and wave... And ignore. What Grado does is make a can from a purely auditory prespective. Rather than go in with measuring tools and science and try to create the perfect driver and enclosure, they go in with a good driver, and figure out what shape, what materials, make that driver sound good to them. So in a very basic sense, they're doing what beats is trying to do; they're giving the buyer what he/she really wants. In beats' case, it's the ability to rattle the hoods of the closest tree fiddy cars around you, but only in your head. In Grado's case, it's giving the buyer an incredibly detailed and musical presentation of whatever he/she is listening to. So there are similarities. But to even compare the two is to delve into idiocy.

 

Enough with that. Proud new WA6 owner here! Got it off of Surreal, who is a class act of a guy. He was using it with HD650s, I'm using it with PS500s. And man, is it good. Huge post incoming by the way, skip if you want.

 

Quick comparison to what I've been listening to before. I've been with a Fiio E10 dac/amp combo, which was good enough over my laptop's output that I didn't really know how much the WA6 would really improve the experience. I've done the vast majority of my listening till now with the SR80is, and the point of getting the PS500s and 2 weeks later the WA6 is to be able to hear the detail, and at times, the impact, of music, that I know is there, without listening at levels that I feel are starting to damage my hearing permanently.

 

Suffice to say, simply switching to the WA6 removes a ton of the sibilance the E10 is causing. I'm still using the E10's dac, but the WA6 is head and shoulders above the E10's amp. I imagine if I get a good dedicated dac, I'll be pretty blown away by that too. I've been wondering if high end really is that much better than regular audio, or more specifically, if the PS500/E10 amp could really be bested by anything worth the money. If you're like me, and I imagine alot of people who might read this thread in the coming months and years will be, the difference is easily audible.

 

It took me no longer than 1 minute of a/b testing to really determine all the improvements the WA6 offered. Those improvements are: everything. I will say that the soundstage is narrow and aggressive, but it's a multi-dimensional soundstage. The Fiio sounded much wider at first listen, but then I realized that [i]everything[/i] was wider. There was no placement, no imaging, which relates closely. It was a wide, one dimensional sound. The WA6's soundstage can be improved with rectifiers, but we can get to that in a bit. Talking in generalities here.

 

The dynamics are breathtaking. I've been listening to a few recordings I know by heart, and sometimes, I'm hearing things dropoff from louder than I'm used to to quieter than I'm used to. On another recording (du pre's kol nidre), at the very end, I'm used to hearing her harmonic ending note as present as the piano's final "tremors," if you will. But now, I can barely hear it. Point being, instead of the amp lumping everything together like "ERRY TING LOUD NOW, erry ting soft nao," I'm hearing much more accurate dynamics. Quick note, I'm a violinist, so this is a big deal. I won't say I have audiophile ears, because being an audiophile is not the point. I do, however, have very practiced and trained ears, and hearing things like this just simply makes me happy.

 

The extension both ways is also incredible. Also the speed, which is perceived as helping the dynamics. Then you have the detail, and boy oh boy how could I even start. So I won't. You need to listen for yourself to amps like this if you want to believe it.

 

So onto tube rolling. By the way, I've read this thread from the beginning to page 60.... Long read, still going. I was given 3 sets of essentially stock driver tubes, the (then) stock Electon Tube 5AR4, an RCA 5U4GB (which is great), and Ms. Sophia. The differences in all are readily available, though I'll say sophia stands out the most, because of the soundstage. I guess I can see how you could describe the bass as muddy. It's not really, but less defined, sure. Doing most of the listening to the 5U4G/b right now, it's great. More speed, and a sparkle more clarity. Interested in trying out the Mighty someday.

 

What I'm really interested in is what apparently (throught page 60s), only 1 person has tried. Which is Mighty with the Sophia 6SNL tubes. Apparently it all contributes towards a bass-accurate presentation with a good soundstage, great clarity, great detail. I'm very interested in that, but it would cost 200 for the little sophias, and another 300-400 for Mighty?

 

Until then, I'll roll around with some driver tubes to get something that goes well with ms. sophia. She really does deserve the best. She also looks incredibly sexy. I wouldn't want to bring PG-13 material in here, but guuurrrrl, u lookin good. Nom sayin? Anyways, I think if I can find drivers that bring the best out of sophia, and then sophia 6snls with the Mighty, I'd have 2 sets of endgame tubes for the WA6 and I could just sit back and enjoy till I have the money for the WA5, PS1000, GS1000, T1, HD650, HE5. And a good dac or 2. Prolly start with modi unless anyone has objections.

 

LONG POST DECOMMENCING.


Edited by Porteroso - 3/28/14 at 10:36pm
post #1318 of 1600

After having tried different combinations of driver tubes and rectifiers I settled on a Sophia Princess. I then used only a few different driver pairs including the stock tubes. After reading the posts here, I ordered a pair of 6FD7 tubes from Jack to go together with the Sophia. The bass is much better for sure. I listened with LCD-2s, AKG501s and Sennheisers HD650.

 

While most music sounds wonderful, there's something strange happening with some of the music their recorded vocals. Some early Dylan and early Beatles sound very strange: it is as if the vocals are recorded 'further away' and there seems to be an enhanced echo on the vocals. To such an extent, that it does not sound like the record as I know it anymore. The vocals sound very poorly recorded all of a sudden. Has anyone had a similar experience? Could something be wrong or is the character of the 6FD7?

post #1319 of 1600

My experience with 6FD7 is they are more "up close/front row" perspective. Possibly a NOS tube still burning in?

post #1320 of 1600

I also found the same thing, that the 6FD7 (big bottle) are more forward sounding than the 6SN7WGTA's. But I do not find anything strange with the vocals what so ever, and I listen to the Beatles twice this week with them. Maybe they just need to burn-in. 

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