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post #16 of 23
12/29/11 at 11:53pm

It's just a matter of matching gain level to get the HE-6 to work, with 1W@50 ohm, the HE-6 is already at 113.5 dB peak.

That is to say very loud by most people's standards, that's 7 Vrms as far as voltage swing is concerned, the Lyrr has a gain of 10, which means you need at least 0.7 Vrms output level of 113.5 dB peaks.

 

So, yeah, your standard 2Vrms source is perfectly fine for Lyrr + HE-6.

 

 

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post #17 of 23
12/30/11 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by khaos974 View Post

It's just a matter of matching gain level to get the HE-6 to work, with 1W@50 ohm, the HE-6 is already at 113.5 dB peak.

That is to say very loud by most people's standards, that's 7 Vrms as far as voltage swing is concerned, the Lyrr has a gain of 10, which means you need at least 0.7 Vrms output level of 113.5 dB peaks.

 

So, yeah, your standard 2Vrms source is perfectly fine for Lyrr + HE-6.

 

 



What about the Violectric V200 - do you know if the 2.7W into 50ohms that amp gives would be enough for the HE-6 with a standard 2Vrms source?

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post #18 of 23
12/30/11 at 7:10am

Yes.

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post #19 of 23
1/1/12 at 3:54am

 

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I assume thats a typo, the Master-6 does 7 watts at 50ohms.

I should be receiving mine next month. biggrin.gif

 


I don´t think it is. The difference between the two is the output stage. Master-5 is class-A in everything, Master-6 class-A in everything except the output stage (in order to push more watts). So yeah, Master-6 is a complete beast :) Master-5 should sound better with easier to drive headphones, while Master-6 is for the really, really hungry ones.

 

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post #20 of 23
1/1/12 at 5:51am
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I don´t think it is. The difference between the two is the output stage. Master-5 is class-A in everything, Master-6 class-A in everything except the output stage (in order to push more watts). So yeah, Master-6 is a complete beast :) Master-5 should sound better with easier to drive headphones, while Master-6 is for the really, really hungry ones.

 



Could Master-6 power the HE-6 single ended?

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post #21 of 23
1/1/12 at 7:53am
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Could Master-6 power the HE-6 single ended?


You would need to ask Kingwa the Single ended power output but don't the HE-6 come with balanced connection anyway. So why would you want to run them single ended?

 

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post #22 of 23
1/6/12 at 3:14pm
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bump.

 

Don't know if you read the 6moons review of the HE-6;

 

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/hifiman2/3.html

 

Reviewer used some fairly common non-ultra high output headphone amps such as Burson HA160D, Schiit Valhalla, Meier Concerto, even Nuforce HDP, and said that they were insufficient for the HE-6 on a weak 1V DAC like an iPod - BUT with his 5.5V output Weiss DAC, every one of those amps could power the HE-6 to eardrum-shattering levels which would 'blow him into the weeds'

 

The output of the DAC is obviously VERY important in determining whether your setup can handle the HE-6.

 

Therefore I'm asking you if there are any DAC's that have an output of 5.5V or more and are much cheaper than the Weiss DAC (which is crazy money)!!

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post #23 of 23
1/6/12 at 7:27pm

Both the Meier and the Schitt have 14 dB gain, and the Burson is limited to 250 mW.

 

Compare to that to, the Violectric V200 has a 28 dB gain (x5 voltage compared to 14 dB gain) and 2700 mW output power.

If the reviewer said that those units were almost ok for the HE-6 at 1V input, the V200 should be totally overkill at 1V input.

Same with the Lyrr.

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