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I went to an Apple store during lunch today and tried Bose QC15 and Beats Studio. No question Bose QC15 provides excellent sound isolation. IMO it also has very good sound quality. On the other hand, the Beats Studio sounds crap in general.

 

BTW, my fortune cookie from lunch says "You are attracted to things with an exotic flavor". What the hell does it mean? Does it mean my IE80 has an exotic flavor? LOL.

post #452 of 571

Most high end IEMs are exotic - there's a major price barrier, for one, also they aren't marketed right. What's more such a tiny marvel of micromechanics and electronics seems "puny" to some.

 

Cue huge headphones like DT880 or LCD-2 selling better. (But are they really though?)

 

I didn't like IE8 (never had a chance with IE80, but I expect it to sound the same) - too much midbass, somewhat thick sound. However the rest was pretty good.

It's quite possible to just pick one of the high end IEMs and end up with something that's "pretty good", but there's almost always something better. That's not even going into personal preferences and neurophysical differences in hearing.

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Originally Posted by AstralStorm View Post

Most high end IEMs are exotic - there's a major price barrier, for one, also they aren't marketed right. What's more such a tiny marvel of micromechanics and electronics seems "puny" to some.

 

Cue huge headphones like DT880 or LCD-2 selling better. (But are they really though?)

 

I didn't like IE8 (never had a chance with IE80, but I expect it to sound the same) - too much midbass, somewhat thick sound. However the rest was pretty good.

It's quite possible to just pick one of the high end IEMs and end up with something that's "pretty good", but there's almost always something better. That's not even going into personal preferences and neurophysical differences in hearing.


sometimes "better" is not always possible

As it might not exist, or your wallet can't afford it lol

 

 

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Originally Posted by lostid View Post

I went to an Apple store during lunch today and tried Bose QC15 and Beats Studio. No question Bose QC15 provides excellent sound isolation. IMO it also has very good sound quality. On the other hand, the Beats Studio sounds crap in general.

 

BTW, my fortune cookie from lunch says "You are attracted to things with an exotic flavor". What the hell does it mean? Does it mean my IE80 has an exotic flavor? LOL.



Did you try it with your own songs on the Bose or with the songs they provided? Because if it's the songs they provided, it's fake. 

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Most high end IEMs are exotic - there's a major price barrier, for one, also they aren't marketed right. What's more such a tiny marvel of micromechanics and electronics seems "puny" to some.

 

Cue huge headphones like DT880 or LCD-2 selling better. (But are they really though?)

 

I didn't like IE8 (never had a chance with IE80, but I expect it to sound the same) - too much midbass, somewhat thick sound. However the rest was pretty good.

It's quite possible to just pick one of the high end IEMs and end up with something that's "pretty good", but there's almost always something better. That's not even going into personal preferences and neurophysical differences in hearing.


I never had any IE before IE80 so I can't compare the difference. the mid bass of the IE80 sounds actually great to me because they are very detailed. This is the sound sig I have been looking for my classical music.

 

There are no IEMs perfect for everybody or for all genres. The quality of music itself (including the recording quality) is far more important than the sound quality. A bad music or great music badly recorded will still sound bad on great IEMs.

 


 

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Did you try it with your own songs on the Bose or with the songs they provided? Because if it's the songs they provided, it's fake. 


No. I only listened to the tracks from their displayed itouch. I was not allowed to plug those phones into my ip4.

 

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Well lostid:

Not always mate - depends on the earphones...C710's were really bad/good (don't know how u look at it) at showing u the imperfections

 

My TFTA, the W2's I found were great all rounders, alongside the D2K's too

 

Doesn't mean they are better they will show u the badly recorded sound better

 

it means that bad earphones will be terrible all across, yet good earphones will be good all across and exceptional with good bit rates

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Well lostid:

Not always mate - depends on the earphones...C710's were really bad/good (don't know how u look at it) at showing u the imperfections

 

My TFTA, the W2's I found were great all rounders, alongside the D2K's too

 

Doesn't mean they are better they will show u the badly recorded sound better

 

it means that bad earphones will be terrible all across, yet good earphones will be good all across and exceptional with good bit rates


Well I know the good phones may make the music sound better, but without quality music and quality recording to begin with it won't make much difference for me regardless of the phones.

 

So this is the order:

 

music > recording quality > phones

 

 

 

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Ask your son ksc75smile.gif


I was pissed off the other day seeing him with only one in his ear and swinging the other one. He is treating this as ibuds (*) like other kids do at school.

 

 

* no trashing ibuds and I am not an audiophile.

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Well if he does, he can pay for his new set with his hard earned cash :)

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I was pissed off the other day seeing him with only one in his ear and swinging the other one. He is treating this as ibuds (*) like other kids do at school.

 

 

* no trashing ibuds and I am not an audiophile.



You should give up on him for now. He's in that so-called rebellious phase which many teens seem to go through.

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Well if he does, he can pay for his new set with his hard earned cash :)


He hasn't earned a penny and that's the problem.

 



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You should give up on him for now. He's in that so-called rebellious phase which many teens seem to go through.


Yes,  teens = the rebellious phase . Tough time for parents.

 

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He hasn't earned a penny and that's the problem.

 


Yes,  teens = the rebellious phase . Tough time for parents.

 



TBH I'm 18, in uni, and I still haven't earned a single penny. However, I've always had appreciation for material quality. The so-called rebellious phase that teens undergo these days are not so much rebellion as it is conformity to mass-produced culture that companies are turning out 24/7.

 

Edit: To be fair, I've done quite a bit of volunteer work.


Edited by mbamg - 1/27/12 at 5:40pm
post #464 of 571
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I never had any IE before IE80 so I can't compare the difference. the mid bass of the IE80 sounds actually great to me because they are very detailed. This is the sound sig I have been looking for my classical music.

 

There are no IEMs perfect for everybody or for all genres. The quality of music itself (including the recording quality) is far more important than the sound quality. A bad music or great music badly recorded will still sound bad on great IEMs.

 


 


No. I only listened to the tracks from their displayed itouch. I was not allowed to plug those phones into my ip4.

 


That's the problem (Lol). Bose tends to sound good on their display because the tracks they use sounds good even on cheap ones. The sound is mediocre at best if you really test it on complex tracks

 

post #465 of 571
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He hasn't earned a penny and that's the problem.

 


Yes,  teens = the rebellious phase . Tough time for parents.

 

 

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Originally Posted by mbamg View Post



TBH I'm 18, in uni, and I still haven't earned a single penny. However, I've always had appreciation for material quality. The so-called rebellious phase that teens undergo these days are not so much rebellion as it is conformity to mass-produced culture that companies are turning out 24/7.

 

Edit: To be fair, I've done quite a bit of volunteer work.


Well I'm 20, but even at 16, I always knew the value of money - that's just me though.

I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, neither am I one to go slash out all my money, even though I'm an only child.

 

I have money that I have actually earned (due to being on placement) to buy myself the best PC, the best headphones, earphones etc

But I'm still on windows XP, put it that way

 

 

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