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post #106 of 498
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Originally Posted by kloan View Post

Some people are unable to discern audible differences.

 

With the difference of components, amp chips, etc, it's virtually impossible for two sources to sound the same.



To me, they sounded almost the same. maybe larger soundstage. The iphone has very good details also. i tried 320 mp3 with my iphone 4 side by side. Maybe its different for flacs?? And i'm just 18 if you think is age that is detering me from hearing the difference. 

post #107 of 498
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To me, they sounded almost the same. maybe larger soundstage. The iphone has very good details also. i tried 320 mp3 with my iphone 4 side by side. Maybe its different for flacs?? And i'm just 18 if you think is age that is detering me from hearing the difference. 



don't take it too hard. just enjoy your music

post #108 of 498

Give it a while. These break in a lot more than an Ipod. I also didn't find it more insightful but still less ringy than my touch when new but now it just smokes it. I never really found them sounding the same as you are but at this point I do find the Rocco clearly better on IEMs where it was not a big deal with stock FW when new. The RoCoo always shows better drive capability for cans. Here's my comments from another thread.

 

I just received my 2nd RoCoo-p. I'm happy to report that I wasn't crazy regarding the sound and my original thoughts on FW. These clearly break in to a great player. This unit sounds just like my 1st did when new. It's a bit congested and lacks some top extension and detail. It made me long to get that top articulation that my run in player now displays extremely well with the stock FW.bigsmile_face.gif

 

If you'd like more top extension and ambient decay out of the box, just give it a while and I think you'll find it a wonderful device. I really have to say it sounds great as currently delivered (once run in) and has a nice sense of authority and control without any heavyhandedness while still having good note weight and plenty of detail. 


Edited by goodvibes - 1/10/12 at 6:41am
post #109 of 498

I have a feeling the Rocoo P will pair with a more variety of headphones/IEMs than the Studio V can. At least from a synergy stand point. My Studio V sounds atrocious on my FX700s but simply amazing on my IE80s. I've also haven't burned the device in as you have and I am already impressed. Hope to be more impressed (ie2han seems to feel the player has improved with usage as well...).
 

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

Give it a while. These break in a lot more than an Ipod. I also didn't find it more insightful but still less ringy than my touch when new but now it just smokes it. I never really found them sounding the same as you are but at this point I do find the Rocco clearly better on IEMs where it was not a big deal with stock FW when new. The RoCoo always shows better drive capability for cans. Here's my comments from another thread.

 

I just received my 2nd RoCoo-p. I'm happy to report that I wasn't crazy regarding the sound and my original thoughts on FW. These clearly break in to a great player. This unit sounds just like my 1st did when new. It's a bit congested and lacks some top extension and detail. It made me long to get that top articulation that my run in player now displays extremely well with the stock FW.bigsmile_face.gif

 

If you'd like more top extension and ambient decay out of the box, just give it a while and I think you'll find it a wonderful device. I really have to say it sounds great as currently delivered (once run in) and has a nice sense of authority and control without any heavyhandedness while still having good note weight and plenty of detail. 



 

post #110 of 498

Give Studio V 600 hours of run in and it will sound a lot better.

post #111 of 498
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Originally Posted by saykong View Post

Give Studio V 600 hours of run in and it will sound a lot better.

Are you serious or just being a smart ass lol? :)
 

 

post #112 of 498
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Are you serious or just being a smart ass lol? :)
 

 


No, that's what HIsound said in Chinese forum.

 

post #113 of 498
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No, that's what HIsound said in Chinese forum.

 



That's kind hard to believe. Almost like magical fairy dust lol. Well I guess only time will tell but that amount of time is quite exorbitant to expect changes to occur throughout.

post #114 of 498
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That's kind hard to believe. Almost like magical fairy dust lol. Well I guess only time will tell but that amount of time is quite exorbitant to expect changes to occur throughout.



I know, it is hard to believe. I can't imagine which capacitors need such aging process. Only scientists can provide answers for this kind of things, can't they?

post #115 of 498

Nice to see they thinned down a studio box for the new rocoo and that it appears to retain the Hisoundaudio sound, but it still hisses with IEMs... seriously? Now there's no excuse since this is a portable player meant to be used with portable headphones and not full sizes. Same old inconvenient UI... tiny screen... surprised they added in EQ now. Anyways, what I really want to know is that if this player and/or the included earphones comes with a 60% ish failure rate like its apparent predecessor, the AMP3?

post #116 of 498
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Originally Posted by david1978jp View Post



I know, it is hard to believe. I can't imagine which capacitors need such aging process. Only scientists can provide answers for this kind of things, can't they?


 

I'd figure the capacitor's are more likely to burn out with that amount of usage than its sound changing due to that amount of usage lol. I must admit thought that this player sure has opened up within the short amount of time I've used it. Probably 30+ hours so far. Still not holding my breath on major changes past 300 hours though but you never now ;).


Edited by lee730 - 1/10/12 at 1:03pm
post #117 of 498
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Originally Posted by rymd View Post

Nice to see they thinned down a studio box for the new rocoo and that it appears to retain the Hisoundaudio sound, but it still hisses with IEMs... seriously? Now there's no excuse since this is a portable player meant to be used with portable headphones and not full sizes. Same old inconvenient UI... tiny screen... surprised they added in EQ now. Anyways, what I really want to know is that if this player and/or the included earphones comes with a 60% ish failure rate like its apparent predecessor, the AMP3?


Mine is working perfectly but I am experiencing just as u said hiss with 20 Ohm iems. 

I can say that although the UI is simple Im very happy with it, feels kinda old school, spec with those buttons.

post #118 of 498
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Originally Posted by Masticore View Post


Mine is working perfectly but I am experiencing just as u said hiss with 20 Ohm iems. 

I can say that although the UI is simple Im very happy with it, feels kinda old school, spec with those buttons.



Are you gonna get an impedance adapter to get rid of the hiss? I figure its a small price to pay for such a great player.

post #119 of 498
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Originally Posted by rymd View Post

Nice to see they thinned down a studio box for the new rocoo and that it appears to retain the Hisoundaudio sound, but it still hisses with IEMs... seriously? Now there's no excuse since this is a portable player meant to be used with portable headphones and not full sizes. Same old inconvenient UI... tiny screen... surprised they added in EQ now. Anyways, what I really want to know is that if this player and/or the included earphones comes with a 60% ish failure rate like its apparent predecessor, the AMP3?



I think they have improved the Studio/Rocoo-P a fair amount since the days of the AMP3. The build quality is improved, The design looks better , FW is much more stable and it plays many more formats than before and finally sound quality is also better. There's still hiss, but it's significantly less that the with the AMP pro.1/2.  So far I have had the Rocoo-P for around a month, used it daily and encountered no issues. 

post #120 of 498

Eww... 60 percent failure rate lol those sound like T51 numbers ;)

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