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The DN1000 doesn't compete with the M200 in sound quality. The M200 clearly wins (by a large margin). My opinion (I know you were asking DannyBai). Now fit and comfort I couldn't answer not knowing what your ears look like.
1. Astrotec AX-60
DN-1000 has a wider soundstage, a bit more mids focused, but sometimes instruments sound a little congested in the mids. The Dunu has a nice thickness to its sound.
AX-60, believe it or not, has thicker sound. The sound soundstage isn't as wide as the Dunu, but there is more space between instrument and better imaging. Bass is more, thicker and cleaner (even with the neutral filters). Vocals have more air around them. Again, the mistake I made initially was trying to wear the AX-60 the way I wear the DN-1K. The Dunu required a deeper insert to shine its best. The Astrotec requires more of a shallow insert. I also think the AX-60's signature is a bit more refined than the DN-1K. Both, however, are very good sounding IEMs, I don't feel like I want to get rid of one for the other at this point. The signatures are different enough. I did feel, however, that I didn't need the H-200 once I bought the Dunu.
Maybe something like the EX1000, M200. That's a hard one to answer. The 1P2 sounds like an LCD-2 with bigger bass and crisper vocals and treble. It's an IEM with a sound of an headphone. If the EX1000 or M200's sounds close to an actual headphone, imagine something that is even bigger in sound. Basically the Cardas EM5814 with tighter more rounded bass and add an armature driver for vocals and treble. The staging is even bigger and more precise. It's something to behold in sound.
I haven't heard the DN1K but I trust eric's recommendations so I'm glad I have the M200. Thankfully we have found many tips that work with the M200 so that's a plus nowadays. The Comply TSX500 tips work really well and it's conical shape so you don't really need to squeeze it down to fit. The tunable feature on the DN1K is intriguing and beneficial I'm sure but at the M200 is tuned quite well to satisfy any basshead and audiophile alike.
Lets be realistic here. The 480s are not a $500 plus level gear. They are $82 bucks after all. Most of my headphones are double triple the cost of these and these hold their own easily against all of them including the X1s. Which is a big surprise to me. Bass wise these hang with the best of them. The Panasonics represent a new benchmark for under $100 phones. Closed phones really don't get too much better.. Sure paying $1000 plus gets you a much higher end sound over these but on the go I doubt your gonna be wearing your TH900s and LCD3s. These are made for all i devices by the way so very functional with your iphones.
These have a place in my collection. With old man Winter about to throw down the snow and cold. These will make perfect Winter headies. Why walk around with your ears exposed. Might as well be surrounded by your music and keep them delicate ears toasty while being completely surrounded by your favorite tunes..I couldn't think of a better set of headphones to do this with.
@Cameron will test out soon..
So I tried out the Panasonic 480s. To me, they sound veiled, something is off with their treble/clarity. Not horrible, but not my thing. I have owned and heard some very good headphones, but not a big fan of over-ear phones. I am going to let them burn in for 50-60 hours more, then maybe try and EQ the treble. Also find them uncomfortable, hot after 10-15 minutes. Already printed out the return slip to Amazon. Got them for $78. No big deal, but I am not hearing their greatness. No matter, cost me $6 return shipping to try them out. They do have a very wide soundstage though. Impressive on that count. Just don't have the crispness I like.
Ya they have almost an overly forward sound signature on open box. I can confirm the treble is somewhat hidden on open box. My pair has been burning since I got them. The whole sound tightens up and while I should be posting this on the 480 thread. I will later.
I just did an A/B against my now burned in 480 vs my Onkyo headphones and I was very surprised but the Onkyos have a very flat sound compared to the Panas..
I know them Panasonics sound a bit off on open box but you can't really hear them in what they can do on just open box impressions of them.. I know we are all in a hurry to be impressed by initial listening of a phone but I can assure anyone that is willing to give these a try. You have to burn them in..The drivers have zero burn in on them from factory..
But if patience is not an option. I would just return them.
Better than your primatal state.
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Meh wasn't a good showing tbh.
Lackluster effort on Twi-Hards part. : P
^ Damn we appear THAT dysfunctional??? LMAO
Amazing observational skittles doc, just like that Twinzies theory.
Yeppp i guessed correct then.
^ Great to hear that ya'll still think so highly of these M200s, makes the loss that much less painful. T_T
Got mercked on both fronts. LMAO Man what could have been, Twinkies and i would have made a killa' dynamic team, sigh. Oh well their loss.
Same here doc, trying not to be caught by all the hybrid hoopla, masterful tuning is KEY!!! A single dynamic when tuned properly can hang with the best of all the new tech toys out there.
I got my monies on VSonic to slay the competition next year, and i ain't a fan boi, HONEST!!!
MA750's have a grander sound all together. Bass is fuller on the MA750 but the Gratitudes hit fast and has this texture that's really incredible. I think the Gratitudes might have the best bass I've heard in awhile. Vocals are much fuller on the MA750's. Makes the Gratitudes sound thin. Treble is sparklier on the Gratitudes but the MA750's are smoother. The MA750's have an overall surround sound effect and the Gratitudes sound closed in when compared. Fit on both can be tricky and will affect the sound. I like both a lot but I still give the edge to the MA750's for overall presentation.
You haven't made things any easier for me lol ...
Have you heard the Sony XBA-H1's? How do they compare?
Always nice to mention what you are referring to!
I'm not so worried about driver flex nowadays. I have the H-200 and DN-1000; had the Carbo Basso and MH1c as well and I figured as long as you're careful with the way you insert them everything will be fine. Some people are bothered by the crinkling sound too... luckily I'm not.
As long as the M200 can hang with heavy metal bass kicks, its a keeper. I'm more worried about the fit tho...