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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

Some comparisons for Leo or anyone else who is interested.  Thought I'd throw the TE-05's into the mix with the Heaven V and Cardas because the Cardas sticks out like a sore thumb out of the three.  

 

Bass:  Cardas is really thick.  A mix of sub-bass and mid-bass.  Doesn't sound as controlled as the other two.  TE-05 has more sub-bass over the V's.  V's have more mid-bass.  Both the V and 05 have nice controlled bass, Cardas has control but not like the other two.  I definitely prefer the TE-05 and V in the bass department.  Can't pick which one I like more but the TE-05 might get the nod in bass.  

 

Vocals:  All three have nice vocals.  Can't really tell which one has is the most forward since all three are not recessed in any way.  Bass does protrude into the Cardas which gives more heft to the voices and adds a nice element to male vocals.  V's are in between the two and TE-05's are on the airer side which gives female vocals star treatment.  V's do well with both and I would give the nod to the V's for vocals followed by the TE-05 a close second.  Cardas still is strong on the vocals though.

 

Treble:  Cardas sounds more laid back than the other two but is just as detailed.  V's and TE-05's have really nice sparkly treble.  Can't tell which one extends more or less.  The TE-05's sound slightly thinner in treble but I don't hear this as being bad.  Both portray treble amongst the best I've heard.  Very detailed without a hint of harshness but the TE-05's get closer to that amount.  

 

All three do a great job of surrounding the music all around you.  The TE-05's seem bigger due to that really airy treble and is the least thick sounding of the three.  The V's can pick out all notes the best since it's tuned quite equally all around.  All three are really good in this department.  

 

My preferences are the V's and TE-05's of the three at this point.  The Cardas is still a keeper for me but will be used sparingly because of the thickness of the sound.  The bass of the TE-05's are absolutely amazing because it hits the low notes without any bleed and is strong.  V's are tight and has that mid-bass bump but not offending mid-bass.  Cardas just has big bass to my ears compared to the other two.  

 

Do the TE-05 and V have better vocals than the Tenore?

 

For those of you looking for an IEM around $60-$70, give the Zero Audio Carbo Tenore ZH-DX200-CT a look before they're gone (don't see them on amazon.jp any longer).  I've been on a quest to find an upgrade, but I prefer them over the BA200, Fidelio S2, Gratitude, Pistons, Basso, GR07 MKII, RE-400, etc.  Airy vocals, energetic, extended but not sibilant highs, quick, hard-hitting bass (more quantity than BA200, S2, RE-400, GR07 MKII, less than Gratitude and Pistons), and tuned to sound natural (not too bright and not too warm/dark).

 

Bassos got more hype, but I think those who had both (me, DannyBai, Lifted Andreas, Kahaluu) prefer the Tenore.  People may have tried the wrong one :)

 

I may get the IM50 to see if they can beat the Tenore.


Edited by Grayson73 - 2/19/14 at 9:59am
post #22112 of 26100
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Dsnuts, the FX700 had the best natural timbre of any earphone I've ever heard. I would still on it if for one thing: the mids were too recessed for me. If they've fixed the recessed mids, it will be one heck of an earphone as the FX850. The FX700 had slamming clear bass (basshead levels) and highs that started off too sharp, but tapered down with burn in and the right tips (I used the monster hybrids). I hope you get it before me and report on those mids.

But the treble was so smooth for the large amount of it. Maybe the set I tried was reaaaally burned in haha.

I'm really interested in the FX850 too.
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

 I'm totally enamored with the sound of the Heaven V!! It's full, lush, natural and rich sounding to my ears. And horns on jazz albums just take transport me to another realm. And I find it very detailed. On top of all all of that, I don't think I've ever heard a single BA with this much bass! And I once thought the Ortofon e-q7 had bass. Ha!

DannyBai, my friend, what have you done to me!!!? lol


P.S. The Mikros is here. I need to go to thee mail room and pick it up.

Mmmm. Makes me miss not having it on me right now. The bass is so... organic in tone.
Edited by vwinter - 2/19/14 at 10:15am
post #22113 of 26100
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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post

Just got my Sony EX650 and listening - very solid bass, quite big but tight and controlled, and I expect it will get a bit more so with further hours. One factor in my purchase was also the ergonomic aspect, and it absolutely lives up to my hopes in that department: light, comfortable and forgettable once in. Similar to the RE400, but without the slight tendency towards vacuum thanks to the angled nozzles. Came to about $100 with the customs added.

Do you plan on getting the XB70 as well?
post #22114 of 26100
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

Some comparisons for Leo or anyone else who is interested.  Thought I'd throw the TE-05's into the mix with the Heaven V and Cardas because the Cardas sticks out like a sore thumb out of the three.  

 

Bass:  Cardas is really thick.  A mix of sub-bass and mid-bass.  Doesn't sound as controlled as the other two.  TE-05 has more sub-bass over the V's.  V's have more mid-bass.  Both the V and 05 have nice controlled bass, Cardas has control but not like the other two.  I definitely prefer the TE-05 and V in the bass department.  Can't pick which one I like more but the TE-05 might get the nod in bass.  

 

Vocals:  All three have nice vocals.  Can't really tell which one has is the most forward since all three are not recessed in any way.  Bass does protrude into the Cardas which gives more heft to the voices and adds a nice element to male vocals.  V's are in between the two and TE-05's are on the airer side which gives female vocals star treatment.  V's do well with both and I would give the nod to the V's for vocals followed by the TE-05 a close second.  Cardas still is strong on the vocals though.

 

Treble:  Cardas sounds more laid back than the other two but is just as detailed.  V's and TE-05's have really nice sparkly treble.  Can't tell which one extends more or less.  The TE-05's sound slightly thinner in treble but I don't hear this as being bad.  Both portray treble amongst the best I've heard.  Very detailed without a hint of harshness but the TE-05's get closer to that amount.  

 

All three do a great job of surrounding the music all around you.  The TE-05's seem bigger due to that really airy treble and is the least thick sounding of the three.  The V's can pick out all notes the best since it's tuned quite equally all around.  All three are really good in this department.  

 

My preferences are the V's and TE-05's of the three at this point.  The Cardas is still a keeper for me but will be used sparingly because of the thickness of the sound.  The bass of the TE-05's are absolutely amazing because it hits the low notes without any bleed and is strong.  V's are tight and has that mid-bass bump but not offending mid-bass.  Cardas just has big bass to my ears compared to the other two.  

Great impressions Danny! Still leaning to the Fostex since I like the stage size/ airiness and the bass extension aspects. Also a warmer copper cable may tune them to be more lush with the right choice(after some research) and that makes them possible more versatile/tunable since they have a good base from which to start.

 

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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post
 

Just got my Sony EX650 and listening - very solid bass, quite big but tight and controlled, and I expect it will get a bit more so with further hours. One factor in my purchase was also the ergonomic aspect, and it absolutely lives up to my hopes in that department: light, comfortable and forgettable once in. Similar to the RE400, but without the slight tendency towards vacuum thanks to the angled nozzles. Came to about $100 with the customs added.


Cool! Sucks about the customs charges though:( Sounds good so far. I think they will calm a bit in the bass dept. or you'll find the right tips to push them to the right place.

post #22115 of 26100
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

 

 

 

For those of you looking for an IEM around $60-$70, give the Zero Audio Carbo Tenore ZH-DX200-CT 

Where to find them for $60 , any international seller ?


Edited by MuZo2 - 2/19/14 at 11:17am
post #22116 of 26100

Mikros 90

 

Sooooo? Initial impressions:

 

- Look smaller in person than I thought they would be (that's okay)

- Tight clamping indeed, but not feeling uncomfortable. I just expanded both ends some and it feels fine

- Where's the missing bass? I was afraid  (and expecting) that I would hardly hear any bass, but I hear plenty (rechecking my basshead card). 

- Yes, positioning on your ears the right way is a must! Very finicky 

- Wide soundstage for a close can

- Sound is not as full sounding as I expected yet, but I believe it will open up.

 

So, not impressed or unimpressed yet. I need more listening and burn in. 

post #22117 of 26100
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

Mikros 90

 

Sooooo? Initial impressions:

 

- Look smaller in person than I thought they would be (that's okay)

- Tight clamping indeed, but not feeling uncomfortable. I just expanded both ends some and it feels fine

- Where's the missing bass? I was afraid  (and expecting) that I would hardly hear any bass, but I hear plenty (rechecking my basshead card). 

- Yes, positioning on your ears the right way is a must! Very finicky 

- Wide soundstage for a close can

- Sound is not as full sounding as I expected yet, but I believe it will open up.

 

So, not impressed or unimpressed yet. I need more listening and burn in. 


Yep, they just don't impress the first day or so. Though I read some out of the box gushing but didn't hear it myself.

post #22118 of 26100
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Originally Posted by MuZo2 View Post
 

Where to find them for $60 , any international seller ?

Amazon has it for $65-$70, shipped from Japan.

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0093VVP0Q/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all&sr=8-1&qid=1392838058

 

 

A few places for ~3810 yen, but I don't read Japanese to see if they ship internationally

 

http://kakaku.com/item/K0000398152/

 

http://www.biccamera.com/bicbic/jsp/w/catalog/detail.jsp?JAN_CODE=4930393700101

 

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/e-earphone/4930393700101/

 

 

Amazon UK:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0093VVP0Q/sr=/qid=/ref=olp_tab_all?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&me=&qid=&seller=&sr=

 

 

Indonesia, 810.000 RP

 

http://www.dontblameyourears.com/264-zero-audio-zh-dx200-ct.html

post #22119 of 26100
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

 

Do the TE-05 and V have better vocals than the Tenore?

 

For those of you looking for an IEM around $60-$70, give the Zero Audio Carbo Tenore ZH-DX200-CT a look before they're gone (don't see them on amazon.jp any longer).  I've been on a quest to find an upgrade, but I prefer them over the BA200, Fidelio S2, Gratitude, Pistons, Basso, GR07 MKII, RE-400, etc.  Airy vocals, energetic, extended but not sibilant highs, quick, hard-hitting bass (more quantity than BA200, S2, RE-400, GR07 MKII, less than Gratitude and Pistons), and tuned to sound natural (not too bright and not too warm/dark).

 

Bassos got more hype, but I think those who had both (me, DannyBai, Lifted Andreas, Kahaluu) prefer the Tenore.  People may have tried the wrong one :)

 

I may get the IM50 to see if they can beat the Tenore.

Tenore's are still my daily commute IEM.  Love them and will keep them until it fails.  With that regard, the V's might be the possible upgrade from what I've heard.

 

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Great impressions Danny! Still leaning to the Fostex since I like the stage size/ airiness and the bass extension aspects. Also a warmer copper cable may tune them to be more lush with the right choice(after some research) and that makes them possible more versatile/tunable since they have a good base from which to start.

 


Cool! Sucks about the customs charges though:( Sounds good so far. I think they will calm a bit in the bass dept. or you'll find the right tips to push them to the right place.

Thank you jant.  I tried the Sony H3 cable but it doesn't fit on the TE-05.  I also grabbed the Oyaide SE cable which does fit but channels keep cutting out on the TE-05.  Haven't tried it on the H3 but I would think that cable would help out the H3 more than the TE-05.  Please share if you happen to find a good cable.  I would choose a copper cable as well for the TE-05.

post #22120 of 26100
Give them a good 300hrs😎...they are something special 😍
post #22121 of 26100
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

Tenore's are still my daily commute IEM.  Love them and will keep them until it fails.  With that regard, the V's might be the possible upgrade from what I've heard.

 

Thank you jant.  I tried the Sony H3 cable but it doesn't fit on the TE-05.  I also grabbed the Oyaide SE cable which does fit but channels keep cutting out on the TE-05.  Haven't tried it on the H3 but I would think that cable would help out the H3 more than the TE-05.  Please share if you happen to find a good cable.  I would choose a copper cable as well for the TE-05.


I thought about that as well since I could see myself grab a Sony when the price drops a bit. I would think the silver plated(IIRC) Fostex cable could tweak the Sony with a little leanness and the Sony cable add a bit of lush to the Fostex. Of course one would have to trim those the Sony's connectors protrusions to test that theory. Also thinking those newer fatter looking Fostex connectors might not fit on the Sony now either without some trimming maybe.

 

Any difference when looking side by side down into the connectors of the SE and Fostex cables? Pin difference etc. that could explain the cutting out and maybe give something to look out for.

 

I remember yesterday, Gilly87, talking about moving to universal MMCX being better than proprietary. Nothing wrong with AT's connector(no cut out and dirt/moisture static noise issues) and at least if you buy an AT cable you know it will work right. :biggrin: 


Edited by jant71 - 2/19/14 at 12:06pm
post #22122 of 26100
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I thought about that as well since I could see myself grab a Sony when the price drops a bit. I would think the silver plated(IIRC) Fostex cable could tweak the Sony with a little leanness and the Sony cable add a bit of lush to the Fostex. Of course one would have to trim those the Sony's connectors protrusions to test that theory. Also thinking those newer fatter looking Fostex connectors might not fit on the Sony now either without some trimming maybe.

 

Any difference when looking side by side down into the connectors of the SE and Fostex cables? Pin difference etc. that could explain the cutting out and maybe give something to look out for.

 

I remember yesterday, Gilly87, talking about moving to universal MMCX being better than proprietary. Nothing wrong with AT's connector(no cut out and dirt/moisture static noise issues) and at least if you buy an AT cable you know it will work right. :biggrin:

When I get home, I'll take a picture of the Oyaide, Fostex and the Sony cables.  I bought the Oyaide cable over the boutique cables thinking it would have better ergonomics but I was wrong.  The Oyaide cable is stiff with a hard plastic covering and feels sort of cheap although quite thick.

post #22123 of 26100
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Originally Posted by Zelda View Post

how's the sound VS the fxt90 and im50 or 70 ?

 

More bass and less harshness than FXT90. More subbass than the IM50, and also slightly brighter. Quite quick decay in the bass keeps it under control. 

 

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Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post

Do you plan on getting the XB70 as well?

 

Unlikely.

post #22124 of 26100
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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post
 

Just got my Sony EX650 and listening

Oh yeah, btw...

:ksc75smile:

post #22125 of 26100

The original Havi Pro is back!!!

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36052562138

 

This time, the box has a marking to distinguish it. SWEET!

 

This is the kick ass version that I love. Like it says, works best with an amp, but most head-fi'ers have that covered.

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