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lol... When I get tired of listening to them, sf. :ksc75smile:

Coolios then, that means i'll give you another week or so MAX!!! : P

 

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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

I can't take them out of my ears since I bought them.  When I switch to other earphones, I go back to them and you know the gears I have.  They are remarkable.  Does that justify it?  :veryevil:

 

You got them BE's so really no need but they are very good.  Maybe you should have a listen?  

^ Welp i traded my BEs for my new DN1Ks so........ but yeah i don't need another budget-fi beater set, and i already know where these Pistons are sonically from all the impressions so far, so no need to hear them and if i want them it would be for keeps. :) Thanks for the offer.......................................................................... if you were that is. haha :ph34r:

 

But yeah i get what ya'll are saying for new comers and peps that just want a great sounding set of beaters for the gym or what nots these Pistons seems to the the real dealio and they sound different enough from those ALL MIGHTY Sony MH1Cs to warrant their purchase. NICE!!!

 

Thanks for all the hard work/ impressions ya'll. We FINALLY got a good sense of how these Pistons perform/ sound and is located in the budget-fi performance charts. :L3000:

 

Another one that deserves DAT GOLDEN NUTS AWARD it seem. :basshead:

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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

I can't take them out of my ears since I bought them.  When I switch to other earphones, I go back to them and you know the gears I have.  They are remarkable.  Does that justify it?  :veryevil:

 

:eek:!  That's just plain "resistance crushing" mean man! 

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It's the best $200 and change you'll ever spend on audio Wayne. More people need to jump on these.

Disclaimer: don't kill me if it doesn't work out.
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post
 

It sure doesn't! A thousand words would be barely enough to adequately describe that beautifully glistening bald head. I should shave the sucker one of these days...

 

...Oh right the headphones. What were we talking about again?

 

Sorry that the bald head distracted you from my point. Please allow me to try again... :)

 

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It's the best $200 and change you'll ever spend on audio Wayne. More people need to jump on these.
 
I believe you. Just a matter of time (which gets exponentially shorter the more I read your impressions lol!).
 
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Disclaimer: don't kill me if it doesn't work out.
 
You've never steered me wrong, so no worries there!
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

Sorry that the bald head distracted you from my point. Please allow me to try again... :)

 

Well I tried them again and they are definitely fine in terms of comfort. Hope you learn next time to never include a bald man in your posts.

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post
 

Well I tried them again and they are definitely fine in terms of comfort. Hope you learn next time to never include a bald man in your posts.

 

Lol! I'd be wearing them at home anyway, so the goofy looking headband wouldn't really matter to me. Comfort and SQ would be key, and it seems that the HP50's deliver on both fronts.

 

You gonna get'em?

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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

It's the best $200 and change you'll ever spend on audio Wayne. More people need to jump on these.

Disclaimer: don't kill me if it doesn't work out.

Oh trust me, I had an incentive to buy the Heaven V over the mikros, but I had a different agenda.

 

The guys at the mikros thread loved them very much, so I was curious to hear what the craze was.

 

Once I got them, the price is totally justified, but the re700s, which I believe more people should jump on as well, deserves its spotlight as well. 

 

I definitely feel you danny, and I bet there will be a good load of people that have gotten the heavens based on your impressions, they're just not posting. :etysmile:

 

For sure, this is the first earphone I'll buy, even if the JVCS come out.

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I'm curious on those ML headphones.  Seems to be a hit.  I had the earphones and those were just too boring but probably the flattest frequency response I've ever heard.  

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

OK, did a quick A-B W40 (out of box) vs W4...there is definitely a family resemblance, but W40 is definitely an upgrade. Wider soundstage, more open, that is, the stage has the feel of empty space between instruments, more than W4, detail better, the "lifting of the proverbial veil" that I didn't realize was there until I compared the W4 to the 40. Neither is a bass monster, but both go really low (no bass emphasis I can hear). Both detail well, W40>W4.

That's it for now, go for the dog walk/random iPod play walk...
Having read this in the morning, was the impetus for my visit to the local store today. Unfortunately they were closing up soon so I did not get to try out the W40 again, just more NAD time.
Having said that, I do believe that Westone have been very open about these being the same, using the same driver setup, tuning, etc.

The only other report apart from a very vague post on the new W-series thread seems to be from Headfonia and they're just really off more often than not so I take what they say with a truckload of salt.

I don't want to mention anything about the new MMCX cables because I don't want to touch the cable talk with a 20-foot pole, but I do want to ask a couple of things before I go in sometime next week.
1) Are the nozzles the same size/diameter (some of the photos I've seen floating around make them look slightly larger)?
2) Are you using the same tips on both of the 4 and the 40?

The tips were not the same, and it was basically out of the box, could be I;m hallucinating/projecting my expectations, but I don't think I really had much in the way of expectations. Could matching tips make a difference? Suppose so. Could my W4's, which are a few years old, have some sort of aging in the cables that makes the W40 sound better? I suppose so. I listened to the 40's with the Westone foams, already had double flange on the W4's, but might dig up some Complys and see if I have the same impression when I put them on both. Burning the W40 now-the drivers may be the same, they make a big deal about the crossovers, and it's possible to get the same drivers to sound different changing these parameters (in fact, I believe I've read about headphones heard in pre release versions on this forum, and the voicing/sound differed from the final released version. This didn't involve major changes in drivers or other hardware, just tweaking/voicing). And, maybe I'll change my mind with more listening, that was out of the box, but, and I know they didn't have the same tips, but I didn't feel it was a subtle difference.
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

I'm curious on those ML headphones.  Seems to be a hit.  I had the earphones and those were just too boring but probably the flattest frequency response I've ever heard.  

The heapdhones may sound boring to you as it is also flat. The bass quantity is alright, good enough to satisfy, but you'd want to hear more of it.

 

The mids are pretty nice though, the voices sound emotional for a flat frequency, but I wish it was a bit more forward than needed, like the re700s.

 

The highs are great, it has good quality despite the grainyness. 

 

I'd say go for it to try it out. If it doesn't satisfy, you can sell and get another headphone. The re700s will be a great alternative (yeah yeah, shameless advertising, but it is warranted.)


Edited by vlenbo - 2/1/14 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

The heapdhones may sound boring to you as it is also flat. The bass quantity is alright, good enough to satisfy, but you'd want to hear more of it.

 

The mids are pretty nice though, the voices sound emotional for a flat frequency, but I wish it was a bit more forward than needed, like the re700s.

 

The highs are great, it has good quality despite the grainyness. 

 

I'd say go for it to try it out. If it doesn't satisfy, you can sell and get another headphone. The re700s will be a great alternative.

I think I'd rather give the RE700's a try based on your impressions.  Seems to be more to my liking.  If it was over-ear, I'd be all over it.  

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

The tips were not the same, and it was basically out of the box, could be I;m hallucinating/projecting my expectations, but I don't think I really had much in the way of expectations. Could matching tips make a difference? Suppose so. Could my W4's, which are a few years old, have some sort of aging in the cables that makes the W40 sound better? I suppose so. I listened to the 40's with the Westone foams, already had double flange on the W4's, but might dig up some Complys and see if I have the same impression when I put them on both. Burning the W40 now-the drivers may be the same, they make a big deal about the crossovers, and it's possible to get the same drivers to sound different changing these parameters (in fact, I believe I've read about headphones heard in pre release versions on this forum, and the voicing/sound differed from the final released version. This didn't involve major changes in drivers or other hardware, just tweaking/voicing). And, maybe I'll change my mind with more listening, that was out of the box, but, and I know they didn't have the same tips, but I didn't feel it was a subtle difference.

Since what you were describing was something that a tip change wouldn't fully account for (better across the board) I might not even been sure that it would be that. Don't get me wrong I'm actually more inclined to believe you at this point since there's not a lot of direct comparisons between the two being done and it might be something along the lines of the SE535 vs LTD where they changed the filters/dampers, and maybe Westone isn't acknowledging that or doesn't think it makes much of a impactful difference.

 

Keep up the impressions, I'm sure many here are very curious as am I.

 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

Lol! I'd be wearing them at home anyway, so the goofy looking headband wouldn't really matter to me. Comfort and SQ would be key, and it seems that the HP50's deliver on both fronts.

 

You gonna get'em?

Don't peer-pressure me, way too close. Sure there's some spare funds lying around but should really spend that on important things like food and shelter.

 

But yeah, not Momentum-soft cups, but pretty darned good. I'm curious as to how these will line up with the ADs and the likes.

 

As a certain idiot we're all too familiar with would say, HYPED BOI HYPE...D!!@?!!

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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

It's the best $200 and change you'll ever spend on audio Wayne. More people need to jump on these.

Disclaimer: don't kill me if it doesn't work out.

^

G44... ;)

 

ekey boi has forsaken me!!! :tongue_smile:

 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Sorry that the bald head distracted you from my point. Please allow me to try again... :)

 

 

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Well I tried them again and they are definitely fine in terms of comfort. Hope you learn next time to never include a bald man in your posts.

^ ehhh alls i see is dat SEXCEE SQUARE. : P

 

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                                                                                          ....OMG OMG OMG DATS PERFECT FIT FOR ME. LIKE A GLOVE!!! :jecklinsmile:

..... a square headband seriously??? :rolleyes: The hell were they thinking. LMAO

 

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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

Oh trust me, I had an incentive to buy the Heaven V over the mikros, but I had a different agenda.

 

The guys at the mikros thread loved them very much, so I was curious to hear what the craze was.

 

Once I got them, the price is totally justified, but the re700s, which I believe more people should jump on as well, deserves its spotlight as well. 

 

I definitely feel you danny, and I bet there will be a good load of people that have gotten the heavens based on your impressions, they're just not posting. :etysmile:

 

For sure, this is the first earphone I'll buy, even if the JVCS come out.

 

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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

I'm curious on those ML headphones.  Seems to be a hit.  I had the earphones and those were just too boring but probably the flattest frequency response I've ever heard.  

 

^ Welp they are FINALLY coming in on Monday for me and just got a V-Moda aftermarket cable as well since the stock one isn't the best it seems. Will hear what all that Martin Logan Hype is all about real soon.

 

Anywho i think this lil' VentureCraft amp deserves some "Discovery" love cuz i hook all my ipods on them and these got some SERIOUS clean juice flowing outta' them now. With my crappy ipod nano 4th gen mounted on that amp they can even drive the Philips X1s not just to loud enough volumes but adequately as well. Not as powerful as say the Fiio E17s but the amp output is a lot less warm and much more clean without being flat/ boring.

 

The best part is they are on sale now on amazon for only $15 bones!!! Damn it i paid $20 for both of my new sets GRRR!!! :mad:

So if you have some old ipods around with the 30 pin connector it brings that weak sauce internal amp up to audiophile class boi!!!

 

GO GO GO DAC!!!

 

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_electronics?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Go-Dap&node=172282

 

^ Had to sand the black set down with a nail filer in order to fit my fat @ss 5th ipod classic on it. LMAO :ph34r: 

 

edit: haha this is a wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better idea tbh. : P

 

 

... i need dat adapter ASAP!!!


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/1/14 at 9:17pm
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 

^ Welp they are FINALLY coming in on Monday for me and just got a V-Moda aftermarket cable as well since the stock one isn't the best it seems. Will hear what all that Martin Logan Hype is all about real soon.

 

 

You'll be disappointed with the amount of detail you hear with instruments and vocals. Just saying. :evil: 

 

@DannyBai 

To be honest, the re700s would have been better over ear, but it's good that its on ear too.

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