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post #9316 of 32864
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I gotta slow down on the new phone purchases. I am right in the middle of getting ready for some exams but hey I got to do what I got to do. I have to try those as I want to know how they stack up against the philips and the MPs and the like. If Jants review is any indication both should be stellar for the little asking price.  I had some paypal credit so why not. The rest of my monies will go toward the SZ2000 or the SZ1000.. Will wait for some reports on those..

post #9317 of 32864
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I gotta slow down on the new phone purchases. I am right in the middle of getting ready for some exams but hey I got to do what I got to do. I have to try those as I want to know how they stack up against the philips and the MPs and the like. If Jants review is any indication both should be stellar for the little asking price.  I had some paypal credit so why not. The rest of my monies will go toward the SZ2000 or the SZ1000.. Will wait for some reports on those..


^ yeppp completely agreed, if those SZ2/1Ks are any good that is. normal_smile%20.gif

 

Don't think everyone is going to be instantly sold on those esp. since we know JVC don't burn-in their damn gears at all, but it would behoove them to do so since these are already considered pretty high end gears and 1st impressions are everything. But we will see soon enough.

 

I am still very much enjoying these FXZ200s cuz they have opened up so much as the result of my intense burn-in these last couple of weeks, might have to revise my initial write-up of them due to these recent changes. Lets just say I no longer feel the urge to get those gr07 BEs because of what I am hearing from these now. haha Damn those Carbon Nanotubes and that pesky ghost!!!

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post #9318 of 32864
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Because of you Sf I started burning both my FXZ100 and FXZ200 again. Both of them have easily over 1K hours. Man both sound excellent but so many guys gave up on them before they get proper.

post #9319 of 32864
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Because of you Sf I started burning both my FXZ100 and FXZ200 again. Both of them have easily over 1K hours. Man both sound excellent but so many guys gave up on them before they get proper.


^ Nope all credit goes to that pesky ghost, if not for him updating me on these FXZ200s, i would have already traded jants for his XBA40s.  haha But i am so glad i didn't, cuz for bass lovers like us, these are amazing iems that's for sure. That big, natural and spacious sound of these FXZ200s is like no other iem i have heard, esp. when that sub bass kicks in, oh lordly lord!!! basshead.gif

 

But yeah these damn buggers require at least 500hrs of burn-in to start sounding right or else that crazy big bass/ sub bass just over powers the rest of the sonic spectrum and leaves your ears literally ringing the next day. haha triportsad.gif

post #9320 of 32864
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

See you guys don't know it but you guys are in the best thread of all of headfi. You guys notice you are the first to know about the latest and greatest? Cus you know why? Cus that is how it is on the discovery thread. We get steady stream of new and not so new info here and it is all because of guys like Jant, ericp, ghost, sf, Wayne and Danny not to mention countless others that don't mind discovering something new and giving the rest of us the insight on what is up with all these earphones and headphones. This thread might be a niche thread but I like this discovery thread and I hope of all the threads here at headfi you guys feel at home here..Cuz that is what this thread should be all about.

 

This is the only thread where you are encouraged to share your experiences. As many of you guys have. And I do give thanks to all that contribute and make this thread possible. This is the only thread we can talk about anything regarding all things new in the audio world and then some....This thread is all about you guys and what your experiences are and that makes it more than just a thread. Call it the hang out lounge your place to ask questions your familiar friend that will be there to give you guidance..

 

With that being said a bit of wisdom for everyone. Enjoy what you have. Guys that feel they need to keep on upgrading to get that end game sound seem to be chasing a dream. It isn't about spending 2K for a headphone and 5K on am amp to get there.. Sometimes you gotta stop and admire what you have and be happy with what your hearing. The truth is there will always be better around the corner but for right now .Best way to enjoy this hobby is to simply.. Enjoy your phones and enjoy your music..After all isn't that the true reason why we joined headfi?  Happy listening to all.. beerchug.gif

 

 

Thanks for the compliment, Dsnuts, and for starting this thread. Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it), head-fi has become divided into a website of elitists (it doesn't sound good unless you've spent a good portion of your daughter's college tuition on it), and us working-class products lovers (we don't care how expensive or cheap it is, we just want the equipment to sound good to great, but hey, great sound with less stress on our wallets is even better!). When I first start seeing your posts I thought you was one of those trolls just trying to get poor saps to spend hard earned money on any and everything. Actually, I didn't even think an earphone could sound good (forget about great) if it originally costed under $100. That might have actually been true when I first started this hobby. But I quickly found out I was wrong. I'm trying to progress to knowing how good or bad an IEM sounds simply by looking at a graph so that I don't have to buy it or try it out, but I ain't there yet. lol ... And I probably won't get there in this lifetime. beerchug.gif

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^ Nope all credit goes to that pesky ghost, if not for him updating me on these FXZ200s, i would have already traded jants for his XBA40s.  haha But i am so glad i didn't, cuz for bass lovers like us, these are amazing iems that's for sure. That big, natural and spacious sound of these FXZ200s is like no other iem i have heard, esp. when that sub bass kicks in, oh lordly lord!!! basshead.gif

 

But yeah these damn buggers require at least 500hrs of burn-in to start sounding right or else that crazy big bass/ sub bass just over powers the rest of the sonic spectrum and leaves your ears literally ringing the next day. haha triportsad.gif

I really don't regret selling my FXZ200, although I might buy it again someday. But I'm so glad I never sold my FXZ100. It truly has gotten better and better with time and burn in. It's still one of my favorites.

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Hi guys! I havent searched this thread since around the fx 40, but now my 40s are going bad :/ any new finds that are better around the same $20-25 range?
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


^ Nope all credit goes to that pesky ghost, if not for him updating me on these FXZ200s, i would have already traded jants for his XBA40s.  haha But i am so glad i didn't, cuz for bass lovers like us, these are amazing iems that's for sure. That big, natural and spacious sound of these FXZ200s is like no other iem i have heard, esp. when that sub bass kicks in, oh lordly lord!!! basshead.gif

 

But yeah these damn buggers require at least 500hrs of burn-in to start sounding right or else that crazy big bass/ sub bass just over powers the rest of the sonic spectrum and leaves your ears literally ringing the next day. haha triportsad.gif

How are the FXZ200s compared to the CKN70s? My friend is about to buy the FXZ200s and he's worried they won't be as good as the CKN70s, I think he's crazy xD

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Hi guys! I havent searched this thread since around the fx 40, but now my 40s are going bad :/ any new finds that are better around the same $20-25 range?


http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/a0a8895f03d70c11/index.html

and currently waiting approval are......

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/b288e49e43e1ada4/index.html

post #9325 of 32864
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

See you guys don't know it but you guys are in the best thread of all of headfi. You guys notice you are the first to know about the latest and greatest? Cus you know why? Cus that is how it is on the discovery thread. We get steady stream of new and not so new info here and it is all because of guys like Jant, ericp, ghost, sf, Wayne and Danny not to mention countless others that don't mind discovering something new and giving the rest of us the insight on what is up with all these earphones and headphones. This thread might be a niche thread but I like this discovery thread and I hope of all the threads here at headfi you guys feel at home here..Cuz that is what this thread should be all about.

 

This is the only thread where you are encouraged to share your experiences. As many of you guys have. And I do give thanks to all that contribute and make this thread possible. This is the only thread we can talk about anything regarding all things new in the audio world and then some....This thread is all about you guys and what your experiences are and that makes it more than just a thread. Call it the hang out lounge your place to ask questions your familiar friend that will be there to give you guidance..

 

With that being said a bit of wisdom for everyone. Enjoy what you have. Guys that feel they need to keep on upgrading to get that end game sound seem to be chasing a dream. It isn't about spending 2K for a headphone and 5K on am amp to get there.. Sometimes you gotta stop and admire what you have and be happy with what your hearing. The truth is there will always be better around the corner but for right now .Best way to enjoy this hobby is to simply.. Enjoy your phones and enjoy your music..After all isn't that the true reason why we joined headfi?  Happy listening to all.. beerchug.gif

 

Truth be told, you have struck such a deep chord with me on that last paragraph. beerchug.gif

 

..and I thanks you for saving me much $$$   ...as well as stress.

 

Most times, this discovery thread is the only place I head to/read here at Head'Fi. 

post #9326 of 32864
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How are the FXZ200s compared to the CKN70s? My friend is about to buy the FXZ200s and he's worried they won't be as good as the CKN70s, I think he's crazy xD


LoL if you must, read the write-up. bigsmile_face.gif Maybe just read the conclusion of it???

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-jant71s-take-on-the-new-ath-clr100-pg-618-zero-audio-carbo-basso-pg-601/8400#post_9294409

 

Both are really different sounding, the CKN70s has a really lush speedy/punchy bass with greats sparkly mids and highs, but the treble is kinda peaky with some slight sibilance. The CKN70s is a lot more bright and has a less natural sonic presentation when compared to the FXZ200s.  If your friend likes his music with a lot of weight to the notes that is more natural sounding then the FXZ200s is the way to go.  The speed of the FXZ200 is not the fastest but it is ample, and the mids have some nice sparkle to them along with a very well controlled treble. The treble becomes a lot more well extended after a long and intense burn-in that is for sure, cuz at the beginning the mids and highs can be masked by that powerful sub bass produced by those woofers.

 

These FXZ200s are slow burners and they might not sound that impressive initially, but you gotta let them cook for at least 500hrs to balance out their sound. Once they are done cooking they can handle any genre with ease and what you get is a really big/ bold/ spacious and natural sounding set of iems that can even hang with full size headphones.


Edited by sfwalcer - 5/3/13 at 10:19pm
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Okay, I just put the S500 on my ears for the first time in about three months. Wow! I forgot how much solid deep natural sound bass these little phones can kick out! These things still sound wonderful, that I can't even imagine (well, yes I can) how the SZ2000/1000 are going to kick a--! 

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Okay, I just put the S500 on my ears for the first time in about three months. Wow! I forgot how much solid deep natural sound bass these little phones can kick out! These things still sound wonderful, that I can't even imagine (well, yes I can) how the SZ2000/1000 are going to kick a--! 


haha i sure hope it lives up to the hype cuz i have had a love and hate relationship with these FXZ200s for the longest time, most hate due to the initial disappointment, but now they have redeemed themselves. I have a similar feeling about these new SZ2/1Ks. They might be slow burners as well due to all new CNT/ sub woofer tech utilized. On that note i am not tempted by them at all, nope, nada, not one bit. 

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Okay, I just put the S500 on my ears for the first time in about three months. Wow! I forgot how much solid deep natural sound bass these little phones can kick out! These things still sound wonderful, that I can't even imagine (well, yes I can) how the SZ2000/1000 are going to kick a--! 

I hear that! +1, but I definitely lack experience to concur with the natural sound of a bass since I have a horrible memory in hearing how it sounds... :) But! It has enough quantity and the quality is decent, but I do want to try the esw9 leather pads on it, maybe it might change the sound to a pleasurable frequency. Big thanks to Dannybai for stating the comfort and the compatibility of those ESW9A pads! 

 

I also see that there are some IEMS I missed, in particular the ath clr series, thanks for those impressive impressions Jant71! I will get it in time and strengthen your impressions as well as dsnut's. I know for sure though..I will buy one or two more IEMs after I finish enjoying the ortofon eq-5!  It is $148 in amazon.co.jp and $166 in addition to tenso shipping!

 

 

 

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haha i sure hope it lives up to the hype cuz i have had a love and hate relationship with these FXZ200s for the longest time, most hate due to the initial disappointment, but now they have redeemed themselves. I have a similar feeling about these new SZ2/1Ks. They might be slow burners as well due to all new CNT/ sub woofer tech utilized. On that note i am not tempted by them at all, nope, nada, not one bit. 

That is a similar feeling I had with the fxz100s. At first I thought the bass was kick-a--, but then I realized how clean and soothing the ckn70's bass was, alright not soothing but powerful. Not as powerful as the fxz100s, but close enough and WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLER IEMS....if it was not for the fact of the indecent treble spike and some silibance on the mids that i hear from it. At first I thought the mids were tinny or unrealistic, but burn-in definitely improved them. I am experiencing a similar distaste of the mids with the ortofon eq-5s, but that is because it lacks sharpness and crispness. However, it does have smooooooth mids, decent highs which sound similar to the full-size A900x of audio-technica, and the nice slightly loose, but overall tight mid-bass of the ortofons and the nice imaging/seperataion/stage it has. I wish I could contribute to this thread as the rest of you guys, but I will wait until the middle of this month in order to purchase some IEMS which can be then A/B'd with the Ba iems and cnt I have.


Edited by vlenbo - 5/3/13 at 10:47pm
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I am still very much enjoying these FXZ200s cuz they have opened up so much as the result of my intense burn-in these last couple of weeks, might have to revise my initial write-up of them due to these recent changes. Lets just say I no longer feel the urge to get those gr07 BEs because of what I am hearing from these now. haha Damn those Carbon Nanotubes and that pesky ghost!!!

deadhorse.gif 

 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Because of you Sf I started burning both my FXZ100 and FXZ200 again. Both of them have easily over 1K hours. Man both sound excellent but so many guys gave up on them before they get proper.

 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


^ Nope all credit goes to that pesky ghost, if not for him updating me on these FXZ200s, i would have already traded jants for his XBA40s.  haha But i am so glad i didn't, cuz for bass lovers like us, these are amazing iems that's for sure. That big, natural and spacious sound of these FXZ200s is like no other iem i have heard, esp. when that sub bass kicks in, oh lordly lord!!! basshead.gif

 

But yeah these damn buggers require at least 500hrs of burn-in to start sounding right or else that crazy big bass/ sub bass just over powers the rest of the sonic spectrum and leaves your ears literally ringing the next day. haha triportsad.gif

 

Yeah, yeah,    ...there you go trolling on me again ! deadhorse.gif

 

...and all I did was to report an 'accidental' finding with them fxz200.

Was burning in them ckn70 and thought why not throw the fxz200 in as well.

But instead of running my usual DnB playlist, I accidentally selected my EDM playlist and left them cooking for 2 weeks, was pleasantly surprised when I listened to them later.

 

I figured what happened was that, as there are 3 separate drivers in them fxz200, burning them with just DnB tracks will only settle the bass drivers, the mids and highs cnt drivers hardly gets any juice thru them.

Burning with EDM, which has fair amount of mids and high notes will really exercises those cnt drivers and get them to really loosen up. After 2 weeks, there was slight improvement to the trebles but major improvement to the mids which are now more forward, and as the bass has tamed even more, they sound more cohesive compared to previously.

Make no mistakes though !   ...the fxz200 are still a predominantly bassy iem dispite the more forward mids.

 

Good write up on the gr07be !   Sfw ...agree totally with your views, after hearing them 'correctly'.wink_face.gif

 

iems for me now, it's a 3 cornered fight between fxz200, ckn70 and gr07be. Can't say which I like better as they are so difference in their sound signature and totally can't go wrong with any one of them. These 3 are keeping the temptations of the cks1000 and Carbo Basso in check for me.

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