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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post

Good read, though I don't consider neutral and natural polar opposites. Phones with strong colouration sound unnatural precisely because they're so non-neutral.


^ good point but in this case we are talking about a sub woofer/ bass edition iem that just happens to sound more natural, but is the least "neutral"/ balanced in this lineup. Those two attributes are not polar opposites per se and the scale above is not valid for other iems besides the ones that i have heard in this write-up. Your point of "strong colouration sound unnatural precisely because they're so non-neutral" seems to be completely flipped in this case due to all the new/ different tech used.

post #9302 of 32865
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post

I got my new purchase a couple of hours ago...

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/a0a8895f03d70c11/index.html

 

PRICE: Varies; $12.07 currently from nothingbutsoftware.com. MSRP is $14.95

 

GOAL: AT claiming to redefine value for the budget sets. CLR  for the natural sound crowd and COR for those who want more bass and thump. Both come with tips, a cord wrap case, a wide choice of colors and a 2 year warranty for minimal price.

 

BUILD: Budget build but still good. The CLR have thinner color matched tips. The housings are strong plastic with nice reliefs coming out. The Y-joint is similar to that found on the CKS77(triangular) but thinner and more flexible. Y - cord with no cord slider. The cable is similar to the SHE3580 but more supple and should behave better. The small right angle plug is nearly the same as the one on the CKN series. The sound tube has the white filter mesh with the two dots again like the CKN  50 model.

 

ACCESSORIES: Manual/warranty paper insert, ~2.25 inch circular Yo-Yo style cord wrap/case combo , S/M/L translucent tips in matching colors for the CLR. For the COR it would seem the more standard thicker black tips come those to befit their bassier nature. The case as mentioned being essentially a Yo-Yo opens wider(3/4") to swallow the cord and phones up then you squeeze it closed to about 1/4" space. It doesn't fully close.

 

FIT: The CLR-100 have a more angled sound tube than the likes of the CKN70 and being plastic are lighter. The tips are softer and more pliable making them more comfy. For me the loop support isn't really doing much and this design is lighter, easier to fit, and more comfy than their big brother. The stocks tips sound fine also. I haven't tried any others but it was quick to see the CKN needed to ditch the stock tips. No such need here AFAIC.

 

SOUND: AT's new house sound and not far off the CKN series sound. As it should be, the COR is more the CKS sound and the CLR standing for clear would translate to the CKN/CKM more balanced sound yet still having a punchy bass that is not lacking in amount.

 

Basically comparing it to the CKN 70, it would seem the CLR100 with it's two dots and 25,000Hz treble rating is something like the CKN50 in sound signature. The CKN70 is a bit more open and has more/brighter treble but not by much. Good punch, good balance, the treble comes off smoother than the CKN70 with a tiny bit more roll off(25,000 vs. 26,000). More forward/up front sounding than the CKN70 but still good depth and immersion factor. Bass is tight like the CKN and even out of the blister pack they handle fast paced music well with little bass bloat. The new better AT mids are still here though not quite as clear the the CKN. A general impression for now as they are 30 minutes old. We'll see how they end up with hours and maybe some tip changes.

 

VALUE: For my $12+ I got the CLR shipped to my house in a couple of days, I got a wide color choice, a useful set of tips(that balance sound), and a clever little case, and the 2 year warranty. For their intended use, straight out of my Sony S639, the CLR100 make the CKN sound like it is overpriced. Of course the CKN is better built and fancier and they do sound better but not that much better. Though I have not heard them, it does sound like they would stack up well sound-wise with the CKN50.

 

A really good value. A good job by AT. Also an inexpensive way to sample the current AT sound!

beerchug.gif. nice jant! and congrats for getting an ´official´ part on this thread. many things from AT lately. the new CKSx and budget CK323 look promising too.

post #9303 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Zelda View Post

beerchug.gif. nice jant! and congrats for getting an ´official´ part on this thread. many things from AT lately. the new CKSx and budget CK323 look promising too.


^ yeppp wanted to say the same thing. Really nice write-up jants and damn it i want that spiffy cable wrapper case, ATH done goofed and didn't include anything nice with these CKN70s sigh........

post #9304 of 32865
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post

I dunno. Because of the sparkly highs I feel like you might like them better. i know you love trance and these sound so good for trance. The bass is fast and super punchy, the highs are sparkly so the synthesizers sound orgasmic. The mids are lush and sweet so you can hear everything. I wanna try the ones Dsnuts got, but I just don't see how they can compete with these.

 

Yeah, but thats exactly why I wanna go for the Zero Audio Carbo Tenore. I think it will most likely have a very similar sound signature to the CKN70.

 

More so than the Carbo Basso.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post


You need to save up and just get a pair of WS99s. Forget these small fry iems. You need the big boy.. I would wait a bit to see how them new JVCs are gonna be like. I plan on getting a pair.. Will see if it dethrones my WS99 for trance.

 

Hahah, I'm already happy with my S500s for that purpose lol

 

I'm looking for an upgrade to my Yamaha EPH100, with a fuller sound and wider soundstage.

 

I think either the CKN70 or Zero Audio Carbo Tenore should do the trick. 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post


Well for one AT is using a top end high resolution driver for the detail and then the tuning has to jive with them air chambers. Love them air chambers. There is also some dual dampening happening so a total of 4 chambers out back. All that tech does the deed..For not having all the tech behind the CKS1000 the DX210 does so many things right. Plus when amped the sound level becomes even more closer to the CKS1000 it is crazy.

Thanks for the comparison Ds... I believe the CKS1000 is the ultimate upgrade for me; but not having enough funds to get one makes me consider the DX210. To get really close to that ATH sound for $50 is a very good compromise; so I got in and ordered!
Edited by d marc0 - 5/3/13 at 8:19am
post #9306 of 32865
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

And yet I spend it on a niche forum making edits for a dusty clown living under some bridge in a Mexican ghetto.

 

 

 

 

 

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See you guys don't know it but you guys are in the best thread of all of headfi. You guys notice you are the first to know about the latest and greatest? Cus you know why? Cus that is how it is on the discovery thread. We get steady stream of new and not so new info here and it is all because of guys like Jant, ericp, ghost, sf, Wayne and Danny not to mention countless others that don't mind discovering something new and giving the rest of us the insight on what is up with all these earphones and headphones. This thread might be a niche thread but I like this discovery thread and I hope of all the threads here at headfi you guys feel at home here..Cuz that is what this thread should be all about.

 

This is the only thread where you are encouraged to share your experiences. As many of you guys have. And I do give thanks to all that contribute and make this thread possible. This is the only thread we can talk about anything regarding all things new in the audio world and then some....This thread is all about you guys and what your experiences are and that makes it more than just a thread. Call it the hang out lounge your place to ask questions your familiar friend that will be there to give you guidance..

 

With that being said a bit of wisdom for everyone. Enjoy what you have. Guys that feel they need to keep on upgrading to get that end game sound seem to be chasing a dream. It isn't about spending 2K for a headphone and 5K on am amp to get there.. Sometimes you gotta stop and admire what you have and be happy with what your hearing. The truth is there will always be better around the corner but for right now .Best way to enjoy this hobby is to simply.. Enjoy your phones and enjoy your music..After all isn't that the true reason why we joined headfi?  Happy listening to all.. beerchug.gif

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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post


Thanks for the comparison Ds... I believe the CKS1000 is the ultimate upgrade for me; but not having enough funds to get one makes me consider the DX210. To get really close to that ATH sound for $50 is a very good compromise; so I got in and ordered!


Ya that is why We brought attention to them DX210s. That price is ridiculous for the performance. I am listening to them with my Meridian Explorer.. My goodness it has a sound that is pure joy to hear regardless of price. I think these will compliment your XBA-3s very well.. Look forward to hear how you like em..

post #9309 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post


Ya that is why We brought attention to them DX210s. That price is ridiculous for the performance. I am listening to them with my Meridian Explorer.. My goodness it has a sound that is pure joy to hear regardless of price. I think these will compliment your XBA-3s very well.. Look forward to hear how you like em..

 

Let's hope I'm gonna have the same impressions with the DX200s when I finally get them. biggrin.gif

post #9310 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Zelda View Post

beerchug.gif. nice jant! and congrats for getting an ´official´ part on this thread. many things from AT lately. the new CKSx and budget CK323 look promising too.

 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


^ yeppp wanted to say the same thing. Really nice write-up jants and damn it i want that spiffy cable wrapper case, ATH done goofed and didn't include anything nice with these CKN70s sigh........


 Thanks guys! I did try the case out today on the commute. Tried winding them up plug first and it worked well enough. I'll have to try housings first next. Got to check out the isolation today and it is above average like they state on the product page.

 

The tips are nice. Quite thick stems. Put the larger size on my CKN70 and they fit tight and sound much better than the stock tips the CKN70 come with.

 

Only a couple of hours of burn in but they have layered out a bit in the mid bass and guitars sound nice and crunchy, the vocals have cleared a bit, and more detail is apparent to me.

 

Used them with my Iriver E300 today as well. A ton of EQ settings and choosing the preset All Round 3 makes the CLR100 sound quite satisfying. Then I plugged them back into the Sony and was A/B-ing with the CKN70 with the CLR tips on them. Really starting to think I don't need both phones:) Just un-amped though and I need more time to compare. The CKN do scale well with an amp and the CLR didn't benefit that much the first time I tried but that was right out of the blister pack. Both phones come up short in the cable dept. since the CLR is prone to tangling but is Y-cord and light/supple and the CKN is J-cord and springy/has a mind of it's own.

 

 

Also saw that NBS has the COR150 now...http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/Product/219989-AudioTechnica-ATHCOR150-Core-Bass-InEar-HeadphonesStereoBlackMiniphoneWired16-Ohm20-Hz-25-kHzEarbudBinauralInear394-ft-Cable

 

Slightly higher at $14.95 shipped because they also come with ear guides.

 

 

 

One shot for the Master Troll...

CKN70 fits in there pretty well though it won't collapse as much. Just too small for something with big housings like FXZ's or CKS's to fit in and close up. Cool if they made a larger one maybe 3.25" instead of 2.25".


Edited by jant71 - 5/3/13 at 1:22pm
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I sooo wish the CLR150 could be shipped to UK, sadly no. :(

 

http://www.galaxorstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30537

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Yep, U.S. models kinda suck for international buyers. I have bought phones from JUNO, MymemoryUK etc. for affordable shipping prices. U.S. sellers rarely ship international and when they do the shipping price is ridiculous:(

 

As small as the package would be, you'd think it would be $10-$12 to ship to the UK. Beachaudio on ebay says about $20 US shipping(First Class INT.) to UK with the shipping estimator. Maybe if you email them they will do better? Can't hurt to try I guess.


Edited by jant71 - 5/3/13 at 2:09pm
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@ Ds

deadhorse.gif

 

@ jants

 

Thanks for all the pics meng, you know what i thought of when i saw that spiffy ATH case??? biggrin.gif

 

... nuff said.

 

hmmm those ATH 150s seems interesting, just the ear hooks is worth half the price. But do i need ear hooks??? haha ksc75smile.gif

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Thread Starter 

CLR100 and COR150 ordered. AT cheapos. Oh boy!.

post #9315 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

CLR100 and COR150 ordered. AT cheapos. Oh boy!.


^ haha, nice. Can't wait for impressions. HYPED!!! ksc75smile.gif

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