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post #9226 of 32862
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

So dsnuts and danny, I'm looking forward to your impressions of the Basso's now that more burn in has been achieved!

 

Who else has ordered these puppies? My ears get quite hot in the summer, so I'm liking the idea of using my CKS1000 and these Carbo Basso iems more than my headphones during the summer. As far as headphones go, my ksc75's (on headband) are quite light on the ears, and I don't care if I get sweat on them, and they sound great, so they do a good job. But, I think that I'll also get the Koss Sportapro's (same driver as portapro's) for $30 and do these mods on them which I found in this headfi post - will sound awesome I am sure! And again, I won't care about abusing them in the heat.

I have over 100 hours on mine and it's smooth as day one.  I really can't hear much of a difference after burn-in.  If anything, it's sounding very full right now.  The bass might have added some extension  to the lower regions.  This is one smooth sounding IEM.  No fatigue in any region.  Nice big bass, smooth vocals, and very smooth treble.  Very enjoyable listen.  

 

It's not going to overtake any of the favorite IEM's in this thread but it stacks up very well against them.  Very comparable to something like the CKS1000 which has a nice balance but adds some good coloration to the frequencies for an immersive listen.  Highly recommended buy for anyone but especially for those who's budget is tight or do not own some of these more expensive IEM's in this thread.  

post #9227 of 32862
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A couple observations.. These have the type of sound that lets you enjoy your music more than analyze the sound.. The guy that gave the 2 rating on that link don't know what he is talking about.. First these are the best sounding iems I have ever heard at this price range. I didn't even bother translating it as it has to be something stupid like poor fit or something broke.

 

I have close to 40 hours of burn in and Danny is right these seems to need no burn in to sound like they do..Some positives. These have a very identical build to the JVC earphones the FX40 and the FXD earphones. Very similar. The cord material the thickness and microphonics are very similar. Which is actually good news. I would say below average microphonics. There is some but not anywhere near like AT earphones.. A solid L jack end off what is a solid build on the earphones. While the cord is not the thickest or the most durable looking it is about the same quality as the JVC earphones I mentioned before.

 

As for the sound..These have impressed me from the time I put them in my ears to now..While the DX200 may have the emphasis on treble do not think these will sound dull or lack in that department.. In fact I would say any more treble on these and it will throw off the balance on these. Timbre detail is excellent on these earphones. Which many so called bass emphasized earphones lack in or somehow just don't get it right..The mids on these I would put up there with the XB90 easy. These might not have the depth of the mids on the XB90 but they have a lushness/smoothness to the mids that don't come from anything budget.  These seem to scale very well to more power. They sound fantastic on everything I tried them on actually. Some tip rolling observations. It seems these take to smaller bored tips more so than wider bore ones. Anything with wide bores and it throws off the bass and balance of the sound.. The stock tips are perfect for the sound and is a very nice silicone soft tips that work well so no real need to tip roll. MH1 tips seem to throw out a bit more bass end for guys that want that.

 

Transition from mid bass to low bass is effortless on these as it should be on an earphone called carbo basso.. These are bass phones done right in that there is nothing lacking on these earphones. Which makes them very enjoyable plus you get that nice spacious sound with very solid depth which makes for a rich sound but not overly done or anything bloated. So many budget fi earphones including the MH1C try to get this type of sound but end up with over emphasis in one part or lack of emphasis on another part of the sound. These have no such issues. The overall sound is effortless, smooth and very enjoyable.I also agree with Danny that  these will give guys a nice taste of what something like a CKS1000 sound like without spending the $200 to try one.. Truth be told I was very worried that these might not live up to my expectations but they have actually shattered them.. These simply sound too good to miss out on.

 

Oh and the guys that are interested in the tenor.. If your into your bass music I would rethink your purchase.


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/1/13 at 7:10pm
post #9228 of 32862
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

A couple observations.. These have the type of sound that lets you enjoy your music more than analyze the sound.. The guy that gave the 2 rating on that link don't know what he is talking about.. First these are the best sounding iems I have ever heard at this price range. I didn't even bother translating it as it has to be something stupid like poor fit or something broke.

 

I have close to 40 hours of burn in and Danny is right these seems to need no burn in to sound like they do..Some positives. These have a very identical build to the JVC earphones the FX40 and the FXD earphones. Very similar. The cord material the thickness and microphonics are very similar. Which is actually good news. I would say below average microphonics. There is some but not anywhere near like AT earphones.. A solid L jack end off what is a solid build on the earphones. While the cord is not the thickest or the most durable looking it is about the same quality as the JVC earphones I mentioned before.

 

As for the sound..These have impressed me from the time I put them in my ears to now..While the DX200 may have the emphasis on treble do not think these will sound dull or lack in that department.. In fact I would say any more treble on these and it will throw off the balance on these. Timbre detail is excellent on these earphones. Which many so called bass emphasized earphones lack in or somehow just don't get it right..The mids on these I would put up there with the XB90 easy. These might not have the depth of the mids on the XB90 but they have a lushness/smoothness to the mids that don't come from anything budget.  These seem to scale very well to more power. They sound fantastic on everything I tried them on actually. Some tip rolling observations. It seems these take to smaller bored tips more so than wider bore ones. Anything with wide bores and it throws off the bass and balance of the sound.. The stock tips are perfect for the sound and is a very nice silicone soft tips that work well so no real need to tip roll. MH1 tips seem to throw out a bit more bass end for guys that want that.

 

Transition from mid bass to low bass is effortless on these as it should be on an earphone called carbo basso.. These are bass phones done right in that there is nothing lacking on these earphones. Which makes them very enjoyable plus you get that nice spacious sound with very solid depth which makes for a rich sound but not overly done or anything bloated. So many budget fi earphones including the MH1C try to get this type of sound but end up with over emphasis in one part or lack of emphasis on another part of the sound. These have no such issues. The overall sound is effortless, smooth and very enjoyable.I also agree with Danny that  these will give guys a nice taste of what something like a CKS1000 sound like without spending the $200 to try one.. Truth be told I was very worried that these might not live up to my expectations but they have actually shattered them.. These simply sound too good to miss out on.

 

Oh and the guys that are interested in the tenor.. If your into your bass music I would rethink your purchase.

Are these worth getting if I already have the CKN70s? I'm also wondering if I should still get the WS99s since those JVCs are coming out.

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^ No burn-in required I AM DOWN!!! TBH I am sick of burning stuff in!!!! ahaha It's great to experience that change in sound but it's a major pain in the @ss.

 

Oh Ds and Danny how is the speed on this thing, is the bass slow like the MH1Cs or is it pretty speedy like the CKN70s???

 

People ready for group buy yet??? Or is everyone just getting these on their own. Let me know Danny when are gonna jump on their other models, so i can tenso piggy ride ya' with these Zero Audio Bassos. ksc75smile.gif

post #9230 of 32862
Thread Starter 

I think so..It has a different enough sound from the CKN70 to call them a different phone all together. There are certainly great aspects of sound for these phones to be on their own. Now if you plan on getting a big boy can like the new SZ2000 or the WS99. I would wait a bit for impressions to roll in. I can tell you. You would love the WS99 but lets wait n see how them new JVCs will stack up..

 

The cost on the Audio Zero phones are excellent for the performance so that is one consideration. But if you have your mind set on saving up for a big can.. You gotta do what you gotta do.

post #9231 of 32862

Thanks dsnuts and Dannybai!

post #9232 of 32862
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

^ No burn-in required I AM DOWN!!! TBH I am sick of burning stuff in!!!! ahaha It's great to experience that change in sound but it's a major pain in the @ss.

 

Oh Ds and Danny how is the speed on this thing, is the bass slow like the MH1Cs or is it pretty speedy like the CKN70s???

 

People ready for group buy yet??? Or is everyone just getting these on their own. Let me know Danny when are gonna jump on their other models, so i can tenso piggy ride ya' with these Zero Audio Bassos. ksc75smile.gif


I would say it is not the speediest or the slowest. It is about right for a single dynamic in that it is certainly not slow or disjointed sounding in the bass area. I suppose it could use a bit more speed but hey that is just nit picking. The bass is not overly done so the speed is actually good. The CKN70 does have the faster bass but these aren't really sluggish in that department that I can sense..

 

These passed my Van Halen's  Hot for teacher bass drum speed test with flying colors.. That to me is fast enough.


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/1/13 at 7:39pm
post #9233 of 32862

These and the CKN70's do not sound alike.  The CB's can be worn all day and the sound won't fatigue at all.  It still has great dynamics and isn't at all boring to hear.  Where the CKN70 is a big, bold sound, the CB's are lush and very smooth.  

 

The bass isn't fast per se but I don't really find them slow.  When I played fast metal, it kept up quite well actually.  This phone really does well with all kinds of music.  Quite impressed.  

 

@sf, I'll for sure contact you the next time I shop Amazon Japan.  For sure when the SZ2000's go on sale but possibly before then.  

 

I have mixed feelings about the new JVC's.  I really want them badly, but it's gonna be one crazy sound I think.  For one thing, it's gonna be almost as heavy as the LCD-2's.  The WS99's are already winners and it's a wonderful headphone.  

post #9234 of 32862

^ Thanks Double Ds. beerchug.gif

 

I have a feeling those SZ2000/ SZ1000s are gonna take FOREVER to burn-in, but i might be wrong, since the S500s got broken in pretty fast. Maybe the smaller the drivers the stiffer the CNT materials, hence it takes so damn long to get their iems to sound like it should. And yeppp, like Danny said i don't really feel that tempted by those SZs that much (welp until the nutman starts to hype them, then all bets are off triportsad.gif) since those mofos are heavy as hell and is not good for portable use, but i am sure it ain't gonna stop people like WAYNE to sport them in the gym though. haha

post #9235 of 32862
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

^ Thanks Double Ds. beerchug.gif

 

I have a feeling those SZ2000/ SZ1000s are gonna take FOREVER to burn-in, but i might be wrong, since the S500s got broken in pretty fast. Maybe the smaller the drivers the stiffer the CNT materials, hence it takes so damn long to get their iems to sound like it should. And yeppp, like Danny said i don't really feel that tempted by those SZs that much (welp until the nutman starts to hype them, then all bets are off triportsad.gif) since those mofos are heavy as hell and is not good for portable use, but i am sure it ain't gonna stop people like WAYNE to sport them in the gym though. haha

LOL.  Dude, you crack me up all the time.  Sorry Wayne but that was funny.

post #9236 of 32862
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

LOL.  Dude, you crack me up all the time.  Sorry Wayne but that was funny.


^ WAYNE just makes it too easy, always talkin' 'bout ya' know how he gots the biggest and baddest................................... iems in the gym all the time. And the other doods just cower in fear due to their inadequate iem sizes. Those CKS1Ks nuff said. : P

 

post #9237 of 32862
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


^ WAYNE just makes it too easy, always talkin' 'bout ya' know how he gots the biggest and baddest................................... iems in the gym all the time. And the other doods just cower in fear due to their inadequate iem sizes. Those CKS1Ks nuff said. : P

 

That is correct! I can't WAIT to show off those SZ2K's at the gym!

 

post #9238 of 32862
I already have the sony XB90EX, is there any value to get these Zero Audio Carbo Basso DX-210?
post #9239 of 32862
Thread Starter 

You want a better balanced sound.. Yes..XB90 does sub bass and mids very well.. Lacks timbre detail and highs extension.

 

In many ways the cheaper DX210 is superior to the XB90 in sound.. Not only better technically but overall sound is much more versatile.. The XB90s are a blast to listen to but they do not have the versatility or the detail level of the DX210.

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OMGad you're saying DX-210 has MORE detail than XB90EX? BETTER than XB90EX? No hype? Lol I am seeing several models for Audio Zero, are we done having impressions on all and have decided on DX-210 as being the best bang-for-buck or is this preliminary? HYPE ON!
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