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post #8761 of 32908
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

what we really need is a successor to the s500. stop earhurting iem hunting, go for closed portable on ears!

If you looking for full-size, Jaycar (rebranded FA-003) for 70$ imho is best bang for the bug. For me it beats S500 in everything except bass quantity, but not by far. It is the best sounding headphone I have ever heard (not heard anything higher than Senn 598 though). basshead.gif

 

 

Edit Price for UK is 27£ + 5£ shipping - unbeatable wink.gif


Edited by Jakkal - 4/19/13 at 3:00pm
post #8762 of 32908

too bad, that it is not portable at all. but where to get them for that price?

post #8763 of 32908
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

The BE's have disks as well - they just happen to be square tongue_smile.gif

 

As far as earbuds are concerned, you don't have tips on earbuds. The tips are what keep the 1000's in the ear, just like the tips keep the BE's in the ear. Granted, because the BE's are over ear, they are further supported upwards by the cable. But because the 1k drivers are so light, the disks are still pretty much held up by the tips in the ear, so you hardly feel the disks (if at all), especially if you use a cable clip to reduce the weight of the cable.

 

So there!


^ Yepp they look just like the Brainwavz betas:

 

And the Thermaltake Tts:

 

Yeppp, can't do it. No go for me.

post #8764 of 32908
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

too bad, that it is not portable at all. but where to get them for that price?

http://jaycar.us/productView.asp?ID=AA2065&keywords=Pro+Monitor+Headphones&form=KEYWORD

Pick GBP from the top.

post #8765 of 32908
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


^ Yepp they look just like the Brainwavz betas:

 

And the Thermaltake Tts:

 

Yeppp, can't do it. No go for me.

 

That is too bad! Fair enough though. But...

 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 

^ It's those stupid disk shape things like what's on all earbuds, they hurt like hell. I can only wear my old Thermaltake Tts and Brainwavz betas only with double flange tips. Anywho that's my story and i am sticking to it.  tongue.gif

 

... I find it very strange that they hurt your ears so much, when I can barely feel the 1k's.

 

Anyway, we've sufficiently beaten this to death!

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post #8766 of 32908

In my fairly limited time as an audiophile, I do have to say the CKN70s are the best IEMs I've ever heard but the J-cord bothered me so much that I sold them.

post #8767 of 32908

waynes world how does the CKS1000 compare to the WS99?

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

The BE's have disks as well - they just happen to be square tongue_smile.gif

 

As far as earbuds are concerned, you don't have tips on earbuds. The tips are what keep the 1000's in the ear, just like the tips keep the BE's in the ear. Granted, because the BE's are over ear, they are further supported upwards by the cable. But because the 1k drivers are so light, the disks are still pretty much held up by the tips in the ear, so you hardly feel the disks (if at all), especially if you use a cable clip to reduce the weight of the cable.

 

So there!

post #8768 of 32908
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

waynes world how does the CKS1000 compare to the WS99?

 

Hi Eric!

 

What I am finding is that the CKS1000 is a kind of wonderful hybrid of the WS99 and the AD900X. The bass has the same ws99 characteristics in that it is big, bold, extended, layered, detailed yet beautifully controlled. There is a lovely amount of sub-bass, and it is never boomy and never bleeds into the mids. Completely satisfying bass, just like with the WS99's, and something I had never experienced in an iem before. The mids are somewhere between the ws99's and the ad900x, but I find that the soundstage, instrument separation, imaging and layering is amazingly more like the ad900x's in that the instruments are all over the place - left, right, close, far away - amazing for an iem! So I guess the mids are more like the ad900x's. And the treble is energetic, engaging and detailed like with the ad900x. So that combination quite frankly makes for a rather epic sound... end game iem material for me quite frankly!

 

But, you are probably more interested in the WS99's since you don't have them, so here you go.. The way the 99's handle the bass is beyond good (just like with the 1k's!). Friggin' gorgeous bass. I can't describe it any better than that. For modern, electronic or bass oriented music, they are mind blowing and can't be beat imo. For everything else, they are only awesome :)  The mids are neither recessed or forward - just right. The treble is very nice, but not too bright (which I personally like). I would overall say that the ws99's lean toward the warm side, the soundstage is great but only as wide and deep as closed cans can be. But they are very nicely balanced. In summary they have a gorgeous, full, balanced, immersive, hypnotic and easy to listen to signature. I can't imagine closed cans sounding much better to be honest.

 

If anyone wants to feel completely satisfied and stop the bleeding and not feel the need to continue getting more and more gear, then just get the open ad900x's, the closed ws99's, and the csk1000 iem's. ATH holy trifecta.

post #8769 of 32908
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

what we really need is a successor to the s500. stop earhurting iem hunting, go for closed portable on ears!

dtx501p?

post #8770 of 32908
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

Hi Eric!

 

What I am finding is that the CKS1000 is a kind of wonderful hybrid of the WS99 and the AD900X. The bass has the same ws99 characteristics in that it is big, bold, extended, layered, detailed yet beautifully controlled. There is a lovely amount of sub-bass, and it is never boomy and never bleeds into the mids. Completely satisfying bass, just like with the WS99's, and something I had never experienced in an iem before. The mids are somewhere between the ws99's and the ad900x, but I find that the soundstage, instrument separation, imaging and layering is amazingly more like the ad900x's in that the instruments are all over the place - left, right, close, far away - amazing for an iem! So I guess the mids are more like the ad900x's. And the treble is energetic, engaging and detailed like with the ad900x. So that combination quite frankly makes for a rather epic sound... end game iem material for me quite frankly!

 

But, you are probably more interested in the WS99's since you don't have them, so here you go.. The way the 99's handle the bass is beyond good (just like with the 1k's!). Friggin' gorgeous bass. I can't describe it any better than that. For modern, electronic or bass oriented music, they are mind blowing and can't be beat imo. For everything else, they are only awesome :)  The mids are neither recessed or forward - just right. The treble is very nice, but not too bright (which I personally like). I would overall say that the ws99's lean toward the warm side, the soundstage is great but only as wide and deep as closed cans can be. But they are very nicely balanced. In summary they have a gorgeous, full, balanced, immersive, hypnotic and easy to listen to signature. I can't imagine closed cans sounding much better to be honest.

 

If anyone wants to feel completely satisfied and stop the bleeding and not feel the need to continue getting more and more gear, then just get the open ad900x's, the closed ws99's, and the csk1000 iem's. ATH holy trifecta.

 

Thank you waynes world. Very interesting. Makes me wonder how the WS99 compares to the A900X, which I own. The price has gone up again on the WS99 in the USA, but I might purchase it once the price goes down. I'm really enjoying the A900X, but I wish it had just a smidget more bass. It's not lacking bass at all, but I wouldn't mind it tuned up a little bit more. The mids and treble are excellent though. Everything you stated about the CKS1000 I wholeheartedly agree with, which goes to show it may not be wise for anyone to think they know what an IEM sounds like just because they read the FR graph. You really need to hear it. And isn't that what this hobby is about anyway, hearing it? Happy listening! beerchug.gif

post #8771 of 32908
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Originally Posted by Fizban View Post

dtx501p?

i own the beyer, it does a better job in detail, soundstage and separation, but lacks bass

post #8772 of 32908
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

i own the beyer, it does a better job in detail, soundstage and separation, but lacks bass

GOOD.

I thought I was crazy when i tried the beyers and came to the same conclusion as you.

 

But I can do with less bass so i'd rank the beyers higher than the s500s.

post #8773 of 32908
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thank you, i ordered them now and paid only 35 pounds inkl. shippment!

post #8774 of 32908

Yep that's the price, I have fixed my post. For 35 pounds you get headphone that people compare to HD600, not bad deal I think. biggrin.gif

You also get spare pads which are the same as HM5 pads, so that's another 17$ you can deduct from the price. wink.gif

BTW the soundstage on these is amazing for closed can, you have to hear it to believe it. basshead.gif


Edited by Jakkal - 4/20/13 at 2:27am
post #8775 of 32908
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

Hi Eric!

 

What I am finding is that the CKS1000 is a kind of wonderful hybrid of the WS99 and the AD900X. The bass has the same ws99 characteristics in that it is big, bold, extended, layered, detailed yet beautifully controlled. There is a lovely amount of sub-bass, and it is never boomy and never bleeds into the mids. Completely satisfying bass, just like with the WS99's, and something I had never experienced in an iem before. The mids are somewhere between the ws99's and the ad900x, but I find that the soundstage, instrument separation, imaging and layering is amazingly more like the ad900x's in that the instruments are all over the place - left, right, close, far away - amazing for an iem! So I guess the mids are more like the ad900x's. And the treble is energetic, engaging and detailed like with the ad900x. So that combination quite frankly makes for a rather epic sound... end game iem material for me quite frankly!

 

But, you are probably more interested in the WS99's since you don't have them, so here you go.. The way the 99's handle the bass is beyond good (just like with the 1k's!). Friggin' gorgeous bass. I can't describe it any better than that. For modern, electronic or bass oriented music, they are mind blowing and can't be beat imo. For everything else, they are only awesome :)  The mids are neither recessed or forward - just right. The treble is very nice, but not too bright (which I personally like). I would overall say that the ws99's lean toward the warm side, the soundstage is great but only as wide and deep as closed cans can be. But they are very nicely balanced. In summary they have a gorgeous, full, balanced, immersive, hypnotic and easy to listen to signature. I can't imagine closed cans sounding much better to be honest.

 

If anyone wants to feel completely satisfied and stop the bleeding and not feel the need to continue getting more and more gear, then just get the open ad900x's, the closed ws99's, and the csk1000 iem's. ATH holy trifecta.

 

Hi Waynes, I know you're one of the early adopter of the Fiio E12 amp, and I've only just laid hands on mine.

 

Would dearly love to hear your impression of the E12 paired with the WS99, as I've totally agree with your descriptions of the WS99 and AD900X (Don't have the 1K ....yet biggrin.gif)

 

Looks like the E12 requires USB chargers capable of 2A output, my 1A output USB charger got smoked after 20 mins trying to charge the amp.confused_face.gif

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