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post #7801 of 32875
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Originally Posted by heatofamatch View Post

Trying to decide if I should go for the CKN50 or 70. The price difference for me is exactly the cost of  the FX40s, which I'm really interested in thanks to this thread. I'd hate to lose that opportunity, and after years of pretending it's noble to buy $200-400 IEMs that honestly were crap bang for the buck, diminishing returns has made me bitter. It's not that they're not good, but I'm no longer willing to blindly sink extra cash into a pair of phones. 

 

Price-wise the XB90EX is as expensive as I'm willing to go now. It's lurking on my to-buy list somewhere in a parallel universe, battling my unsated yearning for the older EX510 and 310. 

 

In my 10? 12? years of on-and-off head-fi visits, this is the best thread ever, so thanks to all of you basshead.gif

The 50's are very good, but the 70's takes it to another level. I would go straight for the 70's.

post #7802 of 32875
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Originally Posted by kahaluu View Post

The 50's are very good, but the 70's takes it to another level. I would go straight for the 70's.

 

+1. As good as the CKN50s are, the CKN70s are a remarkable improvement. The new carbon nanotube material and aluminum body have done wonders to the sound. I think AT implemented their air chamber tech, too.

post #7803 of 32875
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Originally Posted by mugen3 View Post

 

+1. As good as the CKN50s are, the CKN70s are a remarkable improvement. The new carbon nanotube material and aluminum body have done wonders to the sound. I think AT implemented their air chamber tech, too.

I know it might seem rude, but im pretty sure that no one but JVC has marketed the Nanotube speaker additive.

 

Just friendly correction bigsmile_face.gif.

post #7804 of 32875
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Originally Posted by mingamo View Post

I know it might seem rude, but im pretty sure that no one but JVC has marketed the Nanotube speaker additive.

 

Just friendly correction bigsmile_face.gif.

These definitely use carbon nanotubes. It even says so right on the packaging.

post #7805 of 32875

Can't wait until my CKN70s get here then I can ditch my FX101s :D

post #7806 of 32875
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post

Can't wait until my CKN70s get here then I can ditch my FX101s :D

Dude, the FX101s sound is so low end compared to these, you will be blown away. And they just keep getting better and better. The mids are starting to sound AMAZING!

post #7807 of 32875

I was able to audition the CKN50 today (very impressive) and the place will have the CKN70 in stock by this weekend. If I can hear the excellence you guys have mentioned I'll probably get a pair early next week. I was going to spend that $80 on a Sony W270 but we'll see.

 

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The thing with IEM technology is that it can arrive in waves, often so concentrated / choreographed that I wonder if behind-the-scenes manufacturers (like Foster and Soundmagic) hold the key to most technology and patents. Example, this happened when Sony debuted the EX85/90 housing design - nozzle tilting into the ear canal at an angle. This is happening again with the 5.8mm micro driver design, with or without carbon nanotubes. In each case the first name brand manufacturer (Sony/JVC) held onto exclusivity for a year, maybe 2, and then the design just spreads like the deadly flu strain depicted in doomsday novels.

 

Even Moshi came up with a micro-driver IEM, that really made me wonder.


Edited by heatofamatch - 3/4/13 at 1:28am
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This is before completion of burn-in, but I think my opinion will stand firm. I've decided that the CKN70s are not better than the S500s. Now, the first thing I wanna say is they may be better for some people, but to me they are about equal.

 

The first thing you notice about the CKN70s are the soundstage. Even compared to the S500 they sound HUGE. These phones are excellent for classical and live type stuff. The second thing is the way the mids are presented. Guitars in the CKN70s are leaps and bounds above the S500, which is a definite plus for me because I love metal and alternative. The third thing I noticed were the amount of details or sonic abilities. The CKN70 takes the win with this one as well. I thought I could hear everything with the S500s, boy was I wrong! Background vocals are a little more forward in the presentation as well. The CKN70s have more bass and it's done in a better way. The bass is completely separate from the mids and highs. It doesn't affect them AT ALL.

 

The main thing the S500s have over the CKN70s are the fact that they are headphones and not earphones. Surprisingly enough though, the stage is much more narrow. Which has always been the complaint with these headphones anyway. The S500s also have a more laid back and comfy sound signature. They are perfect for laying down and just escaping in the music when you want to relax.

 

Deciding which one I like better is very tough because of one aspect: The guitars are WAY too good in the CKN70s. It makes the them sound kind of boring in the S500s. I'm still having mixed feelings, but I might stick with the S500s as my favorite.

post #7809 of 32875
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post

This is before completion of burn-in, but I think my opinion will stand firm. I've decided that the CKN70s are not better than the S500s. Now, the first thing I wanna say is they may be better for some people, but to me they are about equal.

The first thing you notice about the CKN70s are the soundstage. Even compared to the S500 they sound HUGE. These phones are excellent for classical and live type stuff. The second thing is the way the mids are presented. Guitars in the CKN70s are leaps and bounds above the S500, which is a definite plus for me because I love metal and alternative. The third thing I noticed were the amount of details or sonic abilities. The CKN70 takes the win with this one as well. I thought I could hear everything with the S500s, boy was I wrong! Background vocals are a little more forward in the presentation as well. The CKN70s have more bass and it's done in a better way. The bass is completely separate from the mids and highs. It doesn't affect them AT ALL.

The main thing the S500s have over the CKN70s are the fact that they are headphones and not earphones. Surprisingly enough though, the stage is much more narrow. Which has always been the complaint with these headphones anyway. The S500s also have a more laid back and comfy sound signature. They are perfect for laying down and just escaping in the music when you want to relax.

Deciding which one I like better is very tough because of one aspect: The guitars are WAY too good in the CKN70s. It makes the them sound kind of boring in the S500s. I'm still having mixed feelings, but I might stick with the S500s as my favorite.

Make the s500 your favorite for home and the ckn70s your favorite for portable, problem solved.
post #7810 of 32875
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post


Make the s500 your favorite for home and the ckn70s your favorite for portable, problem solved.

That's my plan, I just figured I give my two cents.

post #7811 of 32875
You guys are killing me with these ckn70s. You're making me want to skip the vc02 and dip into my t50rp+O2 fund
post #7812 of 32875

IMO, you make the 70's your favorite period... for both home and portable use.

post #7813 of 32875
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post

This is before completion of burn-in, but I think my opinion will stand firm. I've decided that the CKN70s are not better than the S500s. Now, the first thing I wanna say is they may be better for some people, but to me they are about equal.

The first thing you notice about the CKN70s are the soundstage. Even compared to the S500 they sound HUGE. These phones are excellent for classical and live type stuff. The second thing is the way the mids are presented. Guitars in the CKN70s are leaps and bounds above the S500, which is a definite plus for me because I love metal and alternative. The third thing I noticed were the amount of details or sonic abilities. The CKN70 takes the win with this one as well. I thought I could hear everything with the S500s, boy was I wrong! Background vocals are a little more forward in the presentation as well. The CKN70s have more bass and it's done in a better way. The bass is completely separate from the mids and highs. It doesn't affect them AT ALL.

The main thing the S500s have over the CKN70s are the fact that they are headphones and not earphones. Surprisingly enough though, the stage is much more narrow. Which has always been the complaint with these headphones anyway. The S500s also have a more laid back and comfy sound signature. They are perfect for laying down and just escaping in the music when you want to relax.

Deciding which one I like better is very tough because of one aspect: The guitars are WAY too good in the CKN70s. It makes the them sound kind of boring in the S500s. I'm still having mixed feelings, but I might stick with the S500s as my favorite.

Even though you say the s500's are your favourite, going by your impressions you actually list more positives about the ATH CKN70 lol. If I didn't know any better, I would have guessed the CKN70s were your favourite smily_headphones1.gif
post #7814 of 32875
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Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post


Even though you say the s500's are your favourite, going by your impressions you actually list more positives about the ATH CKN70 lol. If I didn't know any better, I would have guessed the CKN70s were your favourite smily_headphones1.gif

There's something that I love about the S500s and I can't explain what it is. I've been trying to figure that out since I bought em. I thought it was the mids, but now that I've heard the CKN70s, I'm not sure it is.

 

EDIT

Actually I think I know what it is. The S500s sound more like I'm in the room with the artist. The CKN70s sound more like I'm listening to the song. I like both of these attributes, but I prefer the former.


Edited by 7S Cameron - 3/4/13 at 12:26pm
post #7815 of 32875
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post

There's something that I love about the S500s and I can't explain what it is. I've been trying to figure that out since I bought em. I thought it was the mids, but now that I've heard the CKN70s, I'm not sure it is.

EDIT


Actually I think I know what it is. The S500s sound more like I'm in the room with the artist. The CKN70s sound more like I'm listening to the song. I like both of these attributes, but I prefer the former.

Ah you mean it sounds like the music is in your head? I enjoy that too but I'm still gonna give the CKN70s a shot. Who knows, I may enjoy them even more. I'll be placing my order tomorrow.
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