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One is $90ish the other is $220ish. Both are upgrades. The better value will be with the CKN70 but FXZs has them sub woofers..

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Sf, we expect a full review when you get the Z200's.  You're damn good at it.  

 

Ds, how does the Ckn70's stack up against the cks1000?

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OK, bit on the CKN70,can also get from 

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/chuya-online/item/53358/

about $75 + shipping, seems to be similar to other sites.

Kicking around the idea of the AD 700x, CDjapan.co.jp has them for $151 + shipping, haven't seen cheaper deals in my quick search. The comments on them make them sound indispensable. On the other hand, I have quite a few on- and over- the ear phones, some very good, still, I mostly listen to my iem's (they make great earmuffs, though...went into a coffee shop, the girl making my latte asked where she could get earmuffs like my Senn 650's, LOL)

As I say, first world problems...

post #7489 of 32858
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I think the CKS1000 is still the higher end of the two but man it is hard not to like the performance of the CKN70. I will do a proper A/B tomorrow. I am at home now but, I can tell these CKN70s with their micro HD drivers need a good long burn in...If these turn out the way I think they might here toward the 200 hour mark. Don't know. 

 

These are gonna need every hour of burn in..The treble energy I stated earlier has great control but that energy has to smooth out more so. Commence blasting them drivers.

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What i want know, venerable Dsnuts, is how does the ckn70 compare to JVC fxd80, which is assume to be it's direct head-on competitor?
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My next purchase is definitely between the FXZ200 and the CKN70 but I'm not sure which to go for. I'm looking for a true upgrade from my s500's. I like my bass but I don't want it to overshadow the highs and mids either. I like the bass on the s500's with stock pads, I wouldn't want any less than this, maybe even more.

 

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One is $90ish the other is $220ish. Both are upgrades. The better value will be with the CKN70 but FXZs has them sub woofers..

^ Gee it is best to get these used from your fellow head-fiers. I was lucky enough to get a set for under $180 shipped so it's a pretty reasonable price for such a unique iem. And there are lots of people that are selling them off so just be patient and shop around.

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Sf, we expect a full review when you get the Z200's.  You're damn good at it.  

 

Ds, how does the Ckn70's stack up against the cks1000?


Will do Danny, i am gonna put my entire collection of Korean Hip Hop into rotation to test this bad boi out. biggrin.gif

 

Wish me luck, cuz i might not be able to survive it's mind rattling bass epic-ness. basshead.gif

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I think the CKS1000 is still the higher end of the two but man it is hard not to like the performance of the CKN70. I will do a proper A/B tomorrow. I am at home now but, I can tell these CKN70s with their micro HD drivers need a good long burn in...If these turn out the way I think they might here toward the 200 hour mark. Don't know. 

 

These are gonna need every hour of burn in..The treble energy I stated earlier has great control but that energy has to smooth out more so. Commence blasting them drivers.

Is there a better way to pick the right volume for burn in rather than cranking it and listening to make sure the headphones aren't breaking up? Because it hurts my ears lol.

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One is $90ish the other is $220ish. Both are upgrades. The better value will be with the CKN70 but FXZs has them sub woofers..


In the bass department as well yeah? I know the FXZ200 definitely are but was wondering about the CKN70. Hmm I do love my bass but not sure if the FXZ200's would be worth the price increase over the CKN70's.

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First of all. Why would you listen to your stuff being burned in. Lol. Don't do this. Your supposed to just gauge how loud your sound is getting. No real science behind it but never sit there and listen to your phones when your blasting them drivers. That just ain't good for your ears. 

 

Fairly loud is fairly loud. Not loud until right before it breaks up. You can damage your earphones or worse your hearing.. I basically turn in up till it is loud to my ears and then turn it up a bit more and that should do it.

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What i want know, venerable Dsnuts, is how does the ckn70 compare to JVC fxd80, which is assume to be it's direct head-on competitor?

 

Once I get these CKN70 burned in I will do a micro hd shoot out.

 

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In the bass department as well yeah? I know the FXZ200 definitely are but was wondering about the CKN70. Hmm I do love my bass but not sure if the FXZ200's would be worth the price increase over the CKN70's.

 

You want a real upgrade try a WS99. The CKN70 is a higher end sound but the bass department will be at best a side grade..

 

I suppose the FXZ200 can be had for a bit more over the WS99. But you want a brawny bass can that has the good stuff and supreme balancing with them dual air chambers? Ghost is loving his WS99 for good reason..53mm bass cans never sounded better. Guys that are fans of the HA-S500 and want a can vs earphones. The WS99 or the ES700 would be the natural choice.. The WS99 for bass fans the ES700 for mids fans.


Edited by Dsnuts - 2/26/13 at 9:26pm
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You want a real upgrade try a WS99. The CKN70 is a higher end sound but the bass department will be at best a side grade..


You have solved my dilemma with that answer above, thanks biggrin.gif

I'll be going with the FXZ200's then as I want good isolation and portability too. I also wanted that nice bass which I know the 200's will provide. I think I prefer IEM's to headphones due to the first 2 reasons I mentioned.

Edit - I see you have edited your post. Even though I have the s500's and like them, I think I have realised that I prefer IEM's to headphones as when I was on the bus I was worried people could hear my music, the isolation was ok but no way near my FX 101's and I guess that is what I like about IEM's plus the portability factor too of course.
Edited by Gee Simpson - 2/26/13 at 9:58pm
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Once I get these CKN70 burned in I will do a micro hd shoot out.

 

 

You want a real upgrade try a WS99. The CKN70 is a higher end sound but the bass department will be at best a side grade..

 

I suppose the FXZ200 can be had for a bit more over the WS99. But you want a brawny bass can that has the good stuff and supreme balancing with them dual air chambers? Ghost is loving his WS99 for good reason..53mm bass cans never sounded better. Guys that are fans of the HA-S500 and want a can vs earphones. The WS99 or the ES700 would be the natural choice.. The WS99 for bass fans the ES700 for mids fans.

But for $90, don't the ckn70s have enough bass to satisfy bass-heads? Also, how is the isolation on the ckn70s vs the ckn50s?


Edited by vlenbo - 2/26/13 at 9:50pm
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I have the 50's and still waiting for my 70's to arrive. IMO, isolation should be about the same for both. Housing seems to be the almost identical.

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The sound is a spacious one. Not the widest stage but certainly not bad either. Above average in stage for certain.  I know you guys have had them out of head moments when you hear a good earphone with excellent imagery. These have that in spades. Much like other micro HD earphones the FXDs and MH1C and these CKNs all have the out of your head imagery and spacing. The CKN70 refining the sound to the best level I have ever heard in a single microHD. Speed is excellent. Rock on these earphone will be on point. I sense with burn in the mids will be fuller and perhaps smoother but that is just a guess. Also the highs should settle in more so and will have a smoother transition to the mids. It would suck if the sound end up getting worse. Heck I was liking what I was hearing so much I was debating if I even need to burn them in.

 

No worries on the tonality or anything weird or out of place in the sound.. The tuning on the earphone is excellence.

 

Bass is so quality on these it is gonna surprise bass fans.. It passed my bassiest tracks with ease. I don't think the bass quantity is as much as the FXZ200s but is more like the FXZ100s but the quality is excellent. Very nice refined tight bass with full throttle texture and fullness in the sub bass when called for.

Gonna have to try this. I usually go with a wider bore. Speaking of tips. I should have tried the stock tips for ATs intended sound but I threw on the Sennheiser double flange tips on the CKN70 right away as I liked how they sounded on the CKN50s. Will try the stock tips tomorrow.

 

LOL, Totally agree with all your assessment ! beerchug.gif    ...out of box with the CKN70, I was initially wondering if ATH actually pre-burn them. A closer listen reveals not, the highs are too energetic even sibilance.

 

Dsnut, you are so gonna be "mind blown" with them after 150+ hrs !

I have spent quite abit during the last couple months on audio gears but these CKN70 are the most satisfying (if you don't count the AD900X) ...for me, they have superceed the FXZ100/200 (Sorry sfw ! tongue.gif

 

I thought I was a basshead, but the CKN70 has changed that for me, now I'm officially a Midhead !

 

Between the AD900X and the CKN70 I am well equiped to retire from Head'fi ! biggrin.gif

 

....and not forgetting the WS99 wants to tag along for those EDM and Dubstep.

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What i want know, venerable Dsnuts, is how does the ckn70 compare to JVC fxd80, which is assume to be it's direct head-on competitor?

 

That's what I thought too in the beginning, ...after 2 days of burning in, its like comparing a shotgun to the 30mm gatling in the nose of an A10 Warthog !

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