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Originally Posted by staxxx View Post

I think too much isolation affects the soundstage, which is why I believe it was designed with poor isolation in mind.

 

OMG!!!!!!

 

I was thinking about what you just said, and took the foam that i placed in the Stock Tip ..... then simply rested Isurus in ears, without being over-ear, as usually, without pressing hard, not much force to penetrate.....and  WOW !!!.....  soundstage  grew and grew and grew....... that is reason why stock tips are open.


This was mine and many people mistake, trying to use the Isurus Housing as we normally use, pressing hard and trying to isolate as much as possible.....wrong!

 


This is why some like and others do not.

 



The Isurus was made to use as described above, and as such, always in noise free zone .

try this, especially with good recordings, and live music to see the effect  ..... try different types of pressure on the Stock tips....with a bit more volume to compensate, of course.

In an area without the noise.....relax, close your eyes and make the imagine.

 

 

Isurus is just for In-Door Usage.....they are a Open IEM



 Isurus are diamonds!....great work Thermaltalke.

 

 

Now i'm very, very Happy

 

 

 

:D


Edited by pack21 - 1/12/12 at 4:56pm
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Yup, 9700 responds very well to bass setting on my rockbox clip+

 

 


Edited by D7H7N - 1/12/12 at 4:08pm
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Edited by pack21 - 1/12/12 at 4:50pm
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Which tips are those?  I'm kinda new to all of this, so don't recognize them.  Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Try eqing up the bass to your liking. I bet you can get it to thump very hard.

 

@everyone with isurus. Seriously. These are awesome on the isurus.41jWeWQjnwL._SL500_AA300_.jpgThis may sound strange but. These amplify the great sound of the isurus. It sounds like I threw my MP3 on a little E6. Amazing. I am going through my library of tunes and all of it sounds more fuller.. More body to the sound almost like an amp would do..Completely worth getting these. I am using the medium sized tips and OOOOMMGG!! The sound is stunning using these tips!..Better than the Melec double flange..Somehow the sound has even more body using these..Magic just Magic!!

 

Man I just can't get over how awesome these sound. I know you guys have trusted me in the past. YOU all have to trust me on this newest revelation..I threw on my previous tips that I thought was the best on the isurus the JVC HAFXC51 tips.. OH man there is BIG difference.. These make the isurus sound out of this planet great. I ask you guys to trust me again. Get some of these ear tips. It isn't just a slight sound change guys..I can honestly say with these tips you guys will have yet another WTF moment!..Ri-toast.. Trust a bro. Get some of these. You tell them!. I am listening to a Super refined version of the TT isururs.  Cleaner more dynamic highs. Smoother fuller mids..More bass slam and sub bass. Just using these tips! DO it that's an order!!order.jpg I think with these tips. The EX600 just got out done!



 

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I haven't stop listening my tunes ever since I got these tips today.. These are ordered on Amazon. The Jlab double flange tips.  Now here is a extra tip for you guys. I bought the small, medium large kit the one you see on the pic above but if you guys use the standard large tips on earphones.  Just get yourself the 3X medium tips. 31X09NzoGCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg $6.95 with free shipping. .eke. MAN you gotta hear the isurus using these tips. AMAZING. Unfreaking real. These not only tame the highs but they amplify the sound. It literally sound like I am using an amp with my tunes. Bigger stage, fuller richer high and mids and bigger bass slam.  Absolutely the best tips for the Isurus by far!!  You guys want to superfy your Isurus.. GET THESE!! Wait till you all hear the isurus with these tips...


Edited by Dsnuts - 1/12/12 at 5:14pm
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I just got an Isurus to play around with as well, and am very impressed with the sound.  I noticed as soon as I got them that they don't seem to seal like normal IEMs, in fact I think that they are vented to the point where you can't even get a real "seal" at all; there just isn't any suction.  I'm using these with some normal UE single flange eartips and I'm extremely impressed.

I tried these with BBE on my J3 with a Fiio e11 and for $25 the sound is just phenomenal.

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Originally Posted by sari0n View Post

I just got an Isurus to play around with as well, and am very impressed with the sound.  I noticed as soon as I got them that they don't seem to seal like normal IEMs, in fact I think that they are vented to the point where you can't even get a real "seal" at all; there just isn't any suction.  I'm using these with some normal UE single flange eartips and I'm extremely impressed.

I tried these with BBE on my J3 with a Fiio e11 and for $25 the sound is just phenomenal.


The Isurus are vented.

If you blow in back with the mouth , in the wheel that has the TT logo, you will hear a noise in the tips, and feel the air comes inside.......This is another reason for stock tips be so open.

Its useless try isolate with tips or push hard into the tip....  unless that sticks a tape, but would lose the effect that TT want give us.


Are to appreciate silent In-door, and try use stock tips like I said above.

 

 

A soft position in ear, makes all diference.....for a Awesome aliveness  Sound.

 


Edited by pack21 - 1/12/12 at 6:21pm
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Do they really have a bigger sound-stage? They look liek they isolate better too.
 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

I haven't stop listening my tunes ever since I got these tips today.. These are ordered on Amazon. The Jlab double flange tips.  Now here is a extra tip for you guys. I bought the small, medium large kit the one you see on the pic above but if you guys use the standard large tips on earphones.  Just get yourself the 3X medium tips. 31X09NzoGCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg $6.95 with free shipping. .eke. MAN you gotta hear the isurus using these tips. AMAZING. Unfreaking real. These not only tame the highs but they amplify the sound. It literally sound like I am using an amp with my tunes. Bigger stage, fuller richer high and mids and bigger bass slam.  Absolutely the best tips for the Isurus by far!!  You guys want to superfy your Isurus.. GET THESE!! Wait till you all hear the isurus with these tips...



 

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Ordered the Isurus earlier today, and they shipped the same day! Gonna order these tips too. Dsnuts, you are freakin' amazing, just saiyan. Don't stop doing whacha do!

 

Got a quick question for anyone who has listened to both the Monster Turbines and the Isurus: How do they compare to each other?

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Originally Posted by iBringDaLULZ View Post

Ordered the Isurus earlier today, and they shipped the same day! Gonna order these tips too. Dsnuts, you are freakin' amazing, just saiyan. Don't stop doing whacha do!

Got a quick question for anyone who has listened to both the Monster Turbines and the Isurus: How do they compare to each other?

Offhand, the Turbines are alot more bass centric than the Isurus. The Turbines also isolate alot more. The Isurus I think a lil wider soundstage.
Edited by Insidious Meme - 1/12/12 at 9:26pm
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It is amazing to me just how much change for the better these tips bring out the sound in the Isurus. Much like an amp would. I know the isurus stock sound better than anyone here and I am telling you I heard something new today. A SUPER version of the isurus. They almost sound like a different phone all together. A higher end version. These tips amplify the sound of the isurus and while the staging is probably the same. The sound is more richer, more thicker, it does sound like the staging is wider for some reason much like a small amp would do. It is the best way to describe it.

 

I was listening to Ceelo Greens bright lights bigger city and I can swear the instruments are outside my head surrounding me..Better 3D staging and I heard crowd noises in the tune for the first time and it turns out to be a part of the recording. I have heard this tune over a 100 times and this is the first time I heard this crowd noise from a night club in the back ground of the tune. Made me smile from ear to ear.  Sounds like a full sized dynamic headphone with these tips. No scratch that. It sounds better.. It is hard to describe guys.. Everyone that has these TT isurus must try out these tips.. Even guys that have the Meelec bi flanges..Those will not be the same I A/Bed with the Meelc bi flanges and while those tame the highs a bit it doesn't do what these Jlab tips do.

 

I know it sounds crazy to say tips will change the sound that much but in this case it does. I have never heard my isurus sound this good before. It was always good for me but now with these tips it is on a level that is hard to explain..You guys won't believe this sound comes from a sub $30 earphone. All the detail will be amplified with these is the best way to describe it and yes there is no harsh highs or sibilance. I expected these tips will tame the highs a little but I had no idea they would actually max out the sound and amplify all the great attributes of the isurus to a new level. If the Isurus sounded like a $100 earphone get ready to multiply that by 2X. GET THESE TIPS!!

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Are you sure you didn't just turn the volume up higher after changing the tips? confused.gif

 

Lol at $6.99 I'm sure plenty of people will jump onboard.  Who knows I know that quantitatively tips definitely change the sound of phones, I just haven't heard that change correspond to that kind of change in perception before.

 

I know it sounds crazy too that for zero dollars flat you can get yourself a custom parametric EQ to make any of the phones recommended here sound out-of-this-world heavenly even with stock tips--heck, more of an improvement than any tip change I've heard or even changing to any other set of 'phones I've heard--yet this is exactly what I'm hearing.  Got myself another Philips--the SHE8005, a with-mic version of the new 8000.  I don't even know how to put the unEQed sound in words anymore... all I have to say is that they sound just as good as everything else I have now (SHE3580, SHE9620, Etys) after EQ.  I would write a full profile on them but no one even responded to the last profile I wrote on the 9620.

 

People seem to have no interest at all when I claim the EQed SHE3580 outperform the $200 Etys, but everyone seems to be on board for any hardware mods... be it changing tips or anything short of completely taking the phones apart.  I wonder where this mentality that software mods are inherently inferior to hardware mods comes from?

 

Does anybody doing these mods even have any idea beforehand how the mod will change the sound?  Can the mods be pulled off with enough precision that channel matching won't be affected?  How many of these mods are reversible, so that you can go back and confirm that the sound actually has improved?  Heck, if these mods actually improve the sound why weren't they incorporated into the original design during the manufacturer's R&D to begin with?

 

With sine sweeps and parametric EQ I am precisely measuring the deficiencies of any given pair of headphones on my ears and precisely compensating for them, more precisely than any hardware mod could.  With EQ the possibilities are endless... perhaps too endless, such that the learning curve is too steep for most people to handle and many end up not improving the sound but the opposite... god knows I've spent 10 years fiddling with EQ and only now have gathered enough knowledge to consistently improve the sound of headphones by ear.  I'd love to share that knowledge, if anyone's interested... apparently not redface.gif Or I'm just not able to put it in words attractive enough to, er, attract people redface.gif

 

/rant tongue.gif


Edited by Joe Bloggs - 1/12/12 at 10:21pm
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Lol!.Nope actually the opposite. I had to turn down the volume as the sounds are louder..These tips are magical is the only word that comes to mind. I am listening to some Smoky Robinson. Yes some oldies. Oh man! Wow. Smoky never sounded better.  I will just let the first person that gets these tips to try them so they can tell it like it is. Just astounding sound. I have to tell you Joe. I think this single tip find is just as substantial as the actual earphones themselves. And yes I tried using these on the SHE3580. Unfortunately because of the short nozzle on the SHE3580 these don't sit right on them at all.. I am waiting for you to get one actually.. In the mean while you guys know about these?she3680_10_rtf_.jpgThe SHE3680. Looks like the same earphone as the SHE3580 but with better build. I am wondering if there is any difference in sound.

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Soundfreaq where are you buddy..You need to hear your isurus with these jlab tips and TRANCE!!. Oh man. I think I found the perfect trance earphones for you and you already own it. Just get the tips..Trust a bro on this one.

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