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post #6466 of 32910
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Got the Somic's a few hours ago.......open box?  Dorky look'in for sure!  First impressions briefly......didn't like the sound with the stock pads, tried the SHR840 pads, bass was muffled and loose imo, just listened that way for about 20min, 840 pads were loose, but not too bad there.  Then went to HM5 pads with one of my modds, 1/8" felt with a two inch hole centered on the drivers, in back of the pads.  Lost some clarity but bass was way loose and veiled, as expected, too much bass....EQ down 6db at 30hz, 60hz, and 125hz, still bass didn't sound right to me.  Now I am listening to my other modded HM5 pads, same pads I am using on the S500.  Much better, like them this way, but had to EQ down 4db at 30hz, 60hz, and 125hz, nice tight quality bass, I would say about the way the S500's were before burn in.  The EQ has let the mids and highs clear up, both are very good, right now they sound close to my modded S500 cable and all.  Where they beat the S500 is imaging/separation, and depth of soundstage, 3D, S500's more 2D to me.  I really like this, I can point to exactly where each instrament and voice is coming from.  Main vocals are more forward than instraments, I like that better.  Female vocals are just outstanding, listening to Margo Timmins (Cowboy Junkies) now, maybe the best I have heard here here on my home gears.  I don't think a recable will make these sound any better.  They should get better over time.  My impressions right now, they are going to be better than the S500.  I like the bass better, and the separation/imaging.  Highs on the Somics are different to me.....listening to Patricia Barber, "Tough of trash", symbols, high hats, and snare durms are behind here and each in the correct position.  With the S500's, I don't get that, the symbols, high hats and snare drum have separation, but I don't sense they are position behind the vocalist.  Oh, the HM5 pads with my special modd fit nice and tight and are very comfortable, no O-rings needed here, the cups measure 3.4", probalby other pads out there, but the HM5's are so comfortable.  Cash was right, huge soundstage, deep soundstage, great separation, similar drivers than the ES700 (won't need those), keeping the Somics for now, AD900X here on Monday for a head to head audition.  The Somic's with the HM5 modded pads do it for me.  Now I just have to figure a way around horrible red cable.  I am thinking I can pull the 3.5mm plug and slide on some black cotton sleeving and replace the plug, cheap $5 fix.

Damn these sound good......think my S500's are loosing favoritism!

Oh dang! It's official.

(Just wait until they burn in.)
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Cash let us know when that vendor got some of these Somics. These sound like the real deal..Nice find. Can't wait to try them myself.

I'll see what I can do. Their name is ec-wholesale. Maybe try shooting them out a message, because I'm getting nowhere.(They're being nice, but I don't think they get what I'm saying.)
post #6467 of 32910
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I looked on ALiexpress. I ordered one from one of their vendors. epacket delivery so I should get it hopefully in a week. Look forward to them for certain.  Seems these drivers are what are golden here. All that online read about how these was tuned by a Dr sound guy from Germany sounds like all that was for real.   Could these be the next potential Fostex TRP-50? That is the question. Could we see a MADDOG EFI82?


Edited by Dsnuts - 1/26/13 at 12:38pm
post #6468 of 32910
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Originally Posted by CashNotCredit View Post

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Originally Posted by cute View Post

Got the Somic's a few hours ago.......open box?  Dorky look'in for sure!  First impressions briefly......didn't like the sound with the stock pads, tried the SHR840 pads, bass was muffled and loose imo, just listened that way for about 20min, 840 pads were loose, but not too bad there.  Then went to HM5 pads with one of my modds, 1/8" felt with a two inch hole centered on the drivers, in back of the pads.  Lost some clarity but bass was way loose and veiled, as expected, too much bass....EQ down 6db at 30hz, 60hz, and 125hz, still bass didn't sound right to me.  Now I am listening to my other modded HM5 pads, same pads I am using on the S500.  Much better, like them this way, but had to EQ down 4db at 30hz, 60hz, and 125hz, nice tight quality bass, I would say about the way the S500's were before burn in.  The EQ has let the mids and highs clear up, both are very good, right now they sound close to my modded S500 cable and all.  Where they beat the S500 is imaging/separation, and depth of soundstage, 3D, S500's more 2D to me.  I really like this, I can point to exactly where each instrament and voice is coming from.  Main vocals are more forward than instraments, I like that better.  Female vocals are just outstanding, listening to Margo Timmins (Cowboy Junkies) now, maybe the best I have heard here here on my home gears.  I don't think a recable will make these sound any better.  They should get better over time.  My impressions right now, they are going to be better than the S500.  I like the bass better, and the separation/imaging.  Highs on the Somics are different to me.....listening to Patricia Barber, "Tough of trash", symbols, high hats, and snare durms are behind here and each in the correct position.  With the S500's, I don't get that, the symbols, high hats and snare drum have separation, but I don't sense they are position behind the vocalist.  Oh, the HM5 pads with my special modd fit nice and tight and are very comfortable, no O-rings needed here, the cups measure 3.4", probalby other pads out there, but the HM5's are so comfortable.  Cash was right, huge soundstage, deep soundstage, great separation, similar drivers than the ES700 (won't need those), keeping the Somics for now, AD900X here on Monday for a head to head audition.  The Somic's with the HM5 modded pads do it for me.  Now I just have to figure a way around horrible red cable.  I am thinking I can pull the 3.5mm plug and slide on some black cotton sleeving and replace the plug, cheap $5 fix.

Damn these sound good......think my S500's are loosing favoritism!

Oh dang! It's official.

(Just wait until they burn in.)
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Cash let us know when that vendor got some of these Somics. These sound like the real deal..Nice find. Can't wait to try them myself.

I'll see what I can do. Their name is ec-wholesale. Maybe try shooting them out a message, because I'm getting nowhere.(They're being nice, but I don't think they get what I'm saying.)

 

That is the same seller that Dsnuts and DannyBai got their Pro versions from.

 

Cash, please remember the needle test or equivalent.  I want to know if those ridges mean that there is a grill there or that is just an ornamental design.

 

I will be watching out for more impressions and comparisons of the Somics against other high performance headphones/IEMS.  Please, remember that it is not only important to describe the good, but also the bad and the ugly, HA, HA.  No one will get hurt by that, and everyone will be enlightened.

 

Cute, you have finally gone acceptably pirate.

post #6469 of 32910

Yep that seller told us they do not know when more will be in stock since the company is lacking workers to build them.

post #6470 of 32910
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

I looked on ALiexpress. I ordered one from one of their vendors. epacket delivery so I should get it hopefully in a week. Look forward to them for certain.  Seems these drivers are what are golden here. All that online read about how these was tuned by a Dr sound guy from Germany sounds like all that was for real.   Could these be the next potential Fostex TRP-50? That is the question.

That's some lofty praise.

I know that mine have improved greatly with burn-in, so give them time.

I'm just shocked that they got cute to prefer them to the S500s. Craziness.
post #6471 of 32910
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Originally Posted by CashNotCredit View Post


Ooh! Nice! USPS, UPS, DHL, or FedEx?

 

It was USPS and I received them today. First thing about it is that with the stock pads when I'm wearing them I can't really put them on my ears because it's very uncomfortable, so they mostly rest on the side of my head. First impressions are that they don't disappoint in sound. Now I just need to replace the pads so I can give them a proper listen. 

post #6472 of 32910
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post

That is the same seller that Dsnuts and DannyBai got their Pro versions from.

Cash, please remember the needle test or equivalent.  I want to know if those ridges mean that there is a grill there or that is just an ornamental design.

I will be watching out for more impressions and comparisons of the Somics against other high performance headphones/IEMS.  Please, remember that it is not only important to describe the good, but also the bad and the ugly, HA, HA.  No one will get hurt by that, and everyone will be enlightened.

Cute, you have finally gone acceptably pirate.

The only ugly things here are the stock pads and cable. Upper midrange is a bit shouty at first, but burn-in fixed that for me. Treble isn't sparkly. Bass is a bit bloaty with 840 pads, but in an acceptable way (I like my bass, so it suits me well. If not, use HM5 pads.)

Tested it. Grill's legit.
Edited by CashNotCredit - 1/26/13 at 12:56pm
post #6473 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

Yep that seller told us they do not know when more will be in stock since the company is lacking workers to build them.

Isn't that ironic. XD.
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Originally Posted by NinjaCat View Post

It was USPS and I received them today. First thing about it is that with the stock pads when I'm wearing them I can't really put them on my ears because it's very uncomfortable, so they mostly rest on the side of my head. First impressions are that they don't disappoint in sound. Now I just need to replace the pads so I can give them a proper listen. 

Nice! If you're a basshead, go 840. If not, go HM5. I just realized that I like a bit more rumble than most, so plan accordingly. Comfort goes through the roof with either. They have almost no clamp.
post #6474 of 32910
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

I looked on ALiexpress. I ordered one from one of their vendors. epacket delivery so I should get it hopefully in a week. Look forward to them for certain.  Seems these drivers are what are golden here. All that online read about how these was tuned by a Dr sound guy from Germany sounds like all that was for real.   Could these be the next potential Fostex TRP-50? That is the question. Could we see a MADDOG EFI82?

 

You ended up getting the Pro and the MT versions, or you cancelled the Pro version sale?

 

I want to know if these Somics will beat the FXZ200 and how they stand right next to the AD900X finesse.


Edited by Alberto01 - 1/26/13 at 1:03pm
post #6475 of 32910
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Originally Posted by CashNotCredit View Post


Oh dang! It's official.

(Just wait until they burn in.)
I'll see what I can do. Their name is ec-wholesale. Maybe try shooting them out a message, because I'm getting nowhere.(They're being nice, but I don't think they get what I'm saying.)

 

After four hous of listening/burn in, I have already shut off the EQ at 30hz, and reduced to from -4db to -2db at 60hz...EQ -4db at 125hz still in effect for now, so the midbass stays out of the vocals.  These are acting just like the S500's did initially with the low end.  I started with the EQ on the low end with the S500 just the same, and eventually after time, I use no EQ at all with them.  I think the little modd with the material behind the HM5 pads is key for me.  I have no idea what it is, but I tried neoprene, felt and this stuff that I got from a hobby store!

 

Female vocals on these have never been better for me, Hayley Westernra is a high soprano, and here voice just killed my ears everywhere but these!  Same with my other music with similar pitch!  I just can't believe the stereo imaging, the vocals are just centered in a separate space from the rest of the music.  Chorus backup's are away from the vocalist, in a more separate space, not congested with the main vocalist.  I heard ths on the FXZ200's when I had them!   I am listening to Hayley Westernra sing Shenandoah, and noticed in the last 12 seconds of the track, there are Civil War type military drums playing in the distance.....one drummer more forward than the others, in the right channel. channel.  Normal volume, never heard that is this track, like this, and I have heard the track many many times! 

 

Have your HM5 pads ready if you have the Somic's.....my daughter is coming home to do her taxes on Monday, so I can post some pictures of the modd, and the Somic's!


Edited by cute - 1/26/13 at 1:07pm
post #6476 of 32910
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Could these be the next potential Fostex TRP-50? That is the question. Could we see a MADDOG EFI82?

 

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why Dsnuts is the greatest hypeman of all-time.

 

That is some very, very big-time hype. 

 

Especially for a headphone you haven't heard yet. xD.

 

I hope it doesn't disappoint. 

 

 

 

Anyway, has anyone found more info on the supposed Meelec clones?

post #6477 of 32910

I like the swivels on the cups.....never had single entry cable before, but could be OK if can cover that red plastic!

post #6478 of 32910
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Originally Posted by cute View Post

 

I am listening to Hayley Westernra sing Shenandoah, and noticed in the last 12 seconds of the track, there are Civil War type military drums playing in the distance.....one drummer more forward than the others, in the right channel. channel.  Normal volume, never heard that is this track, like this, and I have heard the track many many times! 

I have an entire list of phenomena like this in my review.

 

The best thing I can compare it to is going from iBuds to low-end Headfi stuff. That "jump", so to speak, where you hear a bunch of things you've never heard before.

 

I'm really glad you like them, cute.

 

 

They get better.


Edited by CashNotCredit - 1/26/13 at 1:13pm
post #6479 of 32910

anyone checked the AD900X with the Fiio E10 ?

 

(PS: btw, i´ll have to sell my CKN50. interested check my sig.)

post #6480 of 32910
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Originally Posted by CashNotCredit View Post

I have an entire list of phenomena like this in my review.

 

The best thing I can compare it to is going from iBuds to low-end Headfi stuff. That "jump", so to speak, where you hear a bunch of things you've never heard before.

 

I'm really glad you like them, cute.

 

 

They get better.

 

I'm a little scared about the AD900X arriving on Monday, the package will be shaking  and shivering as it enters my Man Cave, if they see my Somic's they may go over board!  I don't know how the soundstage, 3D effect can be any better on the AD900X.  But these Somic's and female vocals are orgasmic!

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