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post #6121 of 32908

How good are those Somics?  What are their strengths?  What are their sound flaws?

 

No headphones are good or bad because of their price.  They are what they are and I was waiting on some more impressions on those Somics.  The guidance from the listener is distorted, when he/she says "they are good for their price."  That does not say anything about their sound quality.  Also, our ears don't work like that.  They don't say:  "Oh these don't sound very good.  But, since they are very cheap then we will be extremely happy with them."  Our ears don't work like that.  If they did, we would not be here on this thread by now. HA, HA.

 

We have to make peace with both, our ears and our wallets.  So, we want the best bang for the buck or a good bang for the buck after our ears are satisfied, and only after they are satisfied.  If we get the best bang for the buck before then, we will be spending more money real soon on something better.  What a waste of effort and money, even if we end up selling what we first got.  Let's see if these ATHs get our ears satisfied.  We will be fortunate if they do.  For a little over $200?  I would call that a bargain.  If the $40 Somics do it, I would call that a miracle.  I am open to miracles.  Let them be.  I would be quite happy with a bargain, too.  Let it be.

post #6122 of 32908

Okay, I'm just going to assume that the CKN50 isn't a CNT driver until I can find a thread again that says otherwise. Doesn't matter to me anyway as the CKN50 sounds fantastic to my ears (just poor quality cord and all). 

post #6123 of 32908

Man...

Does someone have both the Somics and the AD900X?
I wanna know whether those $40 somics are really any good.

I'm on the hunt for some new headphones too after my beloved HTF 600s broke :(

and I love my bass :)

post #6124 of 32908
I bought a pair of the Somics mh463, I like them a lot. They're not super bassy but they can boom when the song calls for it. I did change out the stock pads for the turtle beach pads
post #6125 of 32908
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Originally Posted by Omnom View Post

Man...

Does someone have both the Somics and the AD900X?
I wanna know whether those $40 somics are really any good.

 

+1

post #6126 of 32908
post #6127 of 32908
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post


Don't be sorry.  You ought to read what I just wrote at (or to) Dsnuts.  Please, keep me updated and answer my questions.  With your help I should soon find out if these are the right upgrade to what I have now.  And here I go with my next question.

 

Are these better than the HE-400 for EDM music?

One headphone for all genres will have to be the AD900X Alberto.  But for EDM music, I'd choose the HE400 because it has more bass.  It has good sub-bass extension and has more mid-bass lift over the AD900X.  The treble has more peak over the AD900X's as well but the AD900X's are smoother.  

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Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post

Which is the better sounding overall? FXZ200 or AD900X?

I would give the nod to AD900X.  

post #6128 of 32908

I'm looking to purchase a set of open cans and I'm seriously tempted by the AD900X. How are they for rock and jpop compared to the HD650's? Is there enough of a difference between them and the A900X (which I currently have) to justify the purchase?

 

If possible I'm looking for a AD900X owner who wants to (temporarily) trade with my A900X so we could audition them both. If anybody's interested let me know. beyersmile.png

post #6129 of 32908

So I see that folks are catching on to the Somics.

Excellent.

But folks, you're looking at the wrong model.





 

This is the better of the two.

I just found out that Shure SRH-840 pads fit the EFi 82 MT. I put 'em on, and listened to some of my favorite tunes.

This is what I learned about some of my favorite songs:

 


  • Florence + The Machine - Spectrum: Florence has a ping-pong delay on her vocals throughout the track. 
  • Il Volo- Beautiful Day: There's a strange click at the 0:06 mark.
  • Flobots- Handlebars (I like their other stuff too): The violin is panned about 90% right for the whole song, but changes to the left side in the third verse.
  • Kanye West (in general): Kanye West has some really cramped sounding mixes.
  • Macy Gray- I Try: The vocals in the chorus are multiple takes, with every take hard-panned left or right.
  • Ellie Goulding- Lights: The vocals in the chorus are stacked, with one take one octave below the other
  • Fun. - Some Nights: There's a really cool snare roll at the :45 mark.
  • Imagine Dragons - It's Time: There's one more clap than I thought there was in the main rhythm pattern, and there are some snaps too.

Just when I thought I knew my favorite songs...the EFi-82 MT comes around as says, "LOL! NO YOU DON'T! THIS IS WHAT THEY REALLY ARE!"

I don't have the experience with high-end headphones to say that these things are better than $500+ headphones, but I have enough experience with FOTMs and the typical overacheiving budget-fi sets to say this: this is not a "midrange" headphone. This isn't a Superlux, or an HA-S, or a Jaycar.

No.

This is quite a bit bigger than that.

Here's a link to the thread I just started on them.

S
adly, they're not on eBay anymore, but I'm sure with enough Head-Fi support, I could message a seller and let them know of the newfound interest in this formerly obscure model.

Alberto, you put it best. There is no such thing as "good for the price" in my book either.

These are not "poor man's" anything.

They're just amazing headphones.


Edited by CashNotCredit - 1/21/13 at 1:07am
post #6130 of 32908
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post

Which is the better sounding overall? FXZ200 or AD900X?

The FXZ200 has the bass end being more of the headliner in the sound as they have a sub woofer. It is a great sounding earphone and one I enjoy quite a bit so I suppose it has to do with if your a bass guy or a stage guy. What I mean is. the AD900X has this crazy sound stage and air you can't possibly get from in ears. No possible way. The widest sounding earphone will not come close. The scale and scope of sound we are talking about is on a complete other level here. Both are very enjoyable for different reasons. The FXZ200 is an excellent earphone. The AD900X is an excellent open headphone. To me the higher end SQ is with the AD900X. But that is because I listen to just about everything..The FXZ200 is less versatile and does not have the scope of sound that is achieved in these headphones. Also these are fully open meaning. It has like 40% plus sound leakage. Whomever your in the room with while listening to these will be able to hear what your hearing. So one has to take that into consideration. These are clearly for in home use..  The FXZ200 has no sound leakage as they are in ears. And you can easily walk around with them and enjoy them outdoors. So positives and negatives aside SQ on the AD900X for vocals rock jazz and instruments is on another tier of sound. Imagine the best imagery in an earphone but then add about 5X the sound stage and you might get the idea here.

 

 

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Originally Posted by 5370H55V View Post

I'm looking to purchase a set of open cans and I'm seriously tempted by the AD900X. How are they for rock and jpop compared to the HD650's? Is there enough of a difference between them and the A900X (which I currently have) to justify the purchase?

 

If possible I'm looking for a AD900X owner who wants to (temporarily) trade with my A900X so we could audition them both. If anybody's interested let me know. beyersmile.png

These are the best cans for ROCK I have ever heard. Seriously I know Grados are traditionally what guys use for rock but nothing sounds better for me than these AD900X for Rock. I own both the A900X and AD900X. With absolute no hesitation I can recommend the AD900X.. It is a nice upgrade in sound because of the added depth stage and air these open cans represent. These have less bass than the A900X but that is to be expected. But imagine your A900X with a wider stage with impeccable balance and detail in your sound and that is what the AD900X represent.

 

Female vocals as well as male vocals is the best sounding out of these cans over anything else I have. Vocal fans should take note.


Edited by Dsnuts - 1/21/13 at 4:08am
post #6131 of 32908
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 I would give the nod to AD900X.  

 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

The FXZ200 has the bass end being more of the headliner in the sound as they have a sub woofer. It is a great sounding earphone and one I enjoy quite a bit so I suppose it has to do with if your a bass guy or a stage guy. What I mean is. the AD900X has this crazy sound stage and air you can't possibly get from in ears. No possible way. The widest sounding earphone will not come close. The scale and scope of sound we are talking about is on a complete other level here. Both are very enjoyable for different reasons. The FXZ200 is an excellent earphone. The AD900X is an excellent open headphone. To me the higher end SQ is with the AD900X. But that is because I listen to just about everything..The FXZ200 is less versatile and does not have the scope of sound that is achieved in these headphones. Also these are fully open meaning. It has like 40% plus sound leakage. Whomever your in the room with while listening to these will be able to hear what your hearing. So one has to take that into consideration. These are clearly for in home use..  The FXZ200 has no sound leakage as they are in ears. And you can easily walk around with them and enjoy them outdoors. So positives and negatives aside SQ on the AD900X for vocals rock jazz and instruments is on another tier of sound. Imagine the best imagery in an earphone but then add about 5X the sound stage and you might get the idea here.

 

 

These are the best cans for ROCK I have ever heard. Seriously I know Grados are traditionally what guys use for rock but nothing sounds better for me than these AD900X for Rock. I own both the A900X and AD900X. With absolute no hesitation I can recommend the AD900X.. It is a nice upgrade in sound because of the added depth stage and air these open cans represent. These have less bass than the A900X but that is to be expected. But imagine your A900X with a wider stage with impeccable balance and detail in your sound and that is what the AD900X represent.

 

Female vocals as well as male vocals is the best sounding out of these cans over anything else I have. Vocal fans should take note.

Thanks guys. Hmm..based on your impressions I guess I would probably prefer the FXZ200's then as I have portable use in mind and I'm a big fan of bass. I'm looking for a true upgrade to my S500's so it seems the FXZ200's are the ones for me. I'll hang fire a little as I want to see people's impressions of the CKN70's first.

post #6132 of 32908
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post


Don't be sorry.  You ought to read what I just wrote at (or to) Dsnuts.  Please, keep me updated and answer my questions.  With your help I should soon find out if these are the right upgrade to what I have now.  And here I go with my next question.

 

Are these better than the HE-400 for EDM music?

One headphone for all genres will have to be the AD900X Alberto.  But for EDM music, I'd choose the HE400 because it has more bass.  It has good sub-bass extension and has more mid-bass lift over the AD900X.  The treble has more peak over the AD900X's as well but the AD900X's are smoother.  

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post

Which is the better sounding overall? FXZ200 or AD900X?

I would give the nod to AD900X.  


OK.  I expected that answer regarding the HE-400 vs AD900X for EDM stuff.  This makes the decision tough for bass lovers.

 

Two questions here:

 

1)  What is better on the HE-500 over the AD900X and vice versa?

 

2)  Which one do you like better for EDM music, the FXZ200 or the HE-400?

post #6133 of 32908

Would like some feedback from the guys that have the AD900X!  If you could improve the sound of these to be better, what would you change....more bass?  more treble?  better extension on either end?  I am going to be ordering wire for a replacement cable on mine when they arrive, so these impressions would be helpful for the type of wire I use.  Copper, spc and pure silver can change some of these things for the better.....so I need critical listening feedback!

 

For example, a silver copper hybrid cable, two pure silver wires for signal, two copper wires for ground, would give a smoother warmer sound with more bass!

 

Pure silver all four wires would give better detail, more treble and stronger tighter bass!

 

SPC wire, silver plated copper, would give more detail to the higher end, more extension in the highs, but probably less bass!


Edited by cute - 1/21/13 at 9:10am
post #6134 of 32908

Anyone have the cable specs for the AD900X.......I found the specs for the AD2000X, but not these! 

post #6135 of 32908
Thread Starter 

That silver copper hybrid looks like a good fit for these cans. Though I have to tell you cute you should hear the cans first but if I was to choose one it would be that one. These to me sound just right. I suppose if you can add some warmth to the sound and touch more bass that would be optimal for the sound these have..A detailed sound with a touch of warmth would be optimal me thinks.

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