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post #5356 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post

 

If you are going to get a FiiO amp, replace the stock cable with this one:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-to-3-5mm-plug-headphone-cable-for-headphone-amplifier-Black-cable-/280973034324?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item416b4c4354

 

It will sound much better with this Canare cable.

LoL you're not helping his poor wallet sir!!! tongue_smile.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

Your 2 cents make a lot of sense actually thanks! The Ele I'm sure will blow my auditory mind, and now that I got my laptop situated on my desk nicely, I'll probably end up listening to tune from it (and the Ele) quite a bit. And as far as mobile goes, the S500 (and xba3 and fdx70) sound awesome on my clip zip or sgs2. This is all pretty much what dsnuts was trying to tell me I think. So c'mon man, what was I thinking lol! Thanks again sf!

 

No problemo, who needs a stupid portable amp when you already have so many amazing portable cans. Just get your fix stationary with your Ele. Don't need to be high on the go, probably not safe anyways. biggrin.gif Damn audio junkies!!!


Edited by sfwalcer - 12/2/12 at 8:37pm
post #5357 of 32858
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

LoL you're not helping his poor wallet sir!!! tongue_smile.gif

 

No problemo, who needs a stupid portable amp when you already have so many amazing portable cans. Just get audio fix stationary with your Ele. Don't need to be high on the go, probably not safe anyways. biggrin.gif Damn audio junkies!!!

 

And regarding the Somics, I'm looking forward to cashforcredit's comparison to the S500. If it's anything close to the S500, but with bigger soundstage... done!

post #5358 of 32858
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

And regarding the Somics, I'm looking forward to cashforcredit's comparison to the S500. If it's anything close to the S500, but with bigger soundstage... done!


Coolios can't wait for your impressions, cuz you already know it's gonna happen. ha

 

Just buy it now and safe yourself some time. heeeee

post #5359 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post


My Fire Phoenix? With my A900X. It sounds fantabulous.

This unit is great but I believe Kiteki found one better. Should sound very similar to this unit for less. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIFI-NEW-Version-DAC-Decoder-TE7022-CS4398-24Bit-96Khz-USB-RCA-headphone-output-/140751305382?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item20c56e7aa6  The only real issue with the Fire Phoenix is the mixed QC they have. I know more than a few guys that had to return their Fire Phoenix so this other one while it will not have the same type of power that is on the Fire Phoenix. Should have just a nice sound.

Now how does the Ele dac compare. Well I can say the Ele dac for it's ease of use and sound is the clear winner for value especially if it is your first foray into a great sounding DAC. Something like this Fire Phoenix is a complete DAC/AMP so a much more powerful and complete unit.. Sound wise these sound elegant. The Hifimediy dac has more in common with the sound to these than the ELe dac. Sound wise the CS4398 chip that is in this unit is somewhere in between the Hifimediy and the Ele in sound..Great spaciousness of the Hifimidey and a bit less in fullness to the Ele. So somewhere in between. All 3 having great clarity in the sound..None lacking in any way.

One thing I did realize was. The Sound chip is one thing but based on how it is amped it can sound completely different in different units. I have some Op Amps that I ordered I will be switching out in the amp section on this unit to find out if I can improve the sound. Which I should be able to. We will find out soon enough.
I'm not sure if I understand the difference between full and spacious. I'm pretty sure I know what full means, but I have no idea how to explain it. Would spacious mean better instrument seperation? Because that is one of my favorite aspects of sound.
post #5360 of 32858
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


Coolios can't wait for your impressions, cuz you already know it's gonna happen. ha

 

Just buy it now and safe yourself some time. heeeee

 

Ha ha nice try... I can't be manipulated that easily!

 

Then again, those Somics are only $50...

post #5361 of 32858
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

Ha ha nice try... I can't be manipulated that easily!

 

Then again, those Somics are only $50...


And they sound like the Senni HD something somethings that cost $$$s haha. DO IT!!! NOW! k701smile.gif deadhorse.gif

post #5362 of 32858
Thread Starter 

Kinda like how you hear the differences in sound in eaphones. These DAC chips are all made by different manufacturers. They all give a clean stereo sound to your tunes but all have a unique take on that stereo sound. If you think about it. A Clip is not going to sound the same as a Iphone. A Cowon is not going to sound exactly like a Sony Z1060 either. All of them use different sound chips. Dac's are no different. Then you add an amp with their own properties and you can get thousands of variations on the same chip sounds.

 

The sound of the Ele is comparable to the sound that is on a clip. Music comes full the mids are a bit more pronounced than the other chips..All of them has solid instrument separation in the sounds but the ELE sound is fuller a bit more thicker notes to your music and  more depth than the other chips while maintaining every bit of clarity of the more expensive stuff. Making this a very nice all rounder for all types of music. My titanium HD comes really close to sounding like this. Not surprising as both share a burr brown chips. Wait till you guys hear your MH1Cs using this..It will make you wonder why you need to spend more on audio stuff. Fuller, deeper, complete and easy to tune out and tune into your music.

 

The Hifimediy sabre dac sound is similar to how my XBA-3 gives off sound..While not a full sounding as the Ele the imagery on tunes is some of the best I have heard on the dacs. A really nice textured sound. So a better sense of space in your tunes is achieved because of these traits.. Add a small amp to the mix and you got one heck of a high end sound. Sense of space is easier to hear because of how clean the sound is for one and how great the imagery is for your tunes..This sound is fantastic for open cans and earphones that have a wider stage I think will maximize this sound trait from a Sabre chip. Smooth, clean, textured.. Just a beautiful sound.  

 

The Cirrus Logic chip in my Fire Phoenix is in between the 2 mentioned here. It has that great clean imagery of the Sabre Chip, Just a step back from them perhaps but has a nice proper fullness to the sounds that is also on the Ele dac. But I don't know how much of the sound traits I am hearing is due to the Amp portion of it. In any case. Extended, dynamic, soulful and immersive

 

My recent cheapo Ha-Info dac actually sounds great as well but I have to admit it is trying to be what the sabre chip does but falls a bit short. This also gives a nice spacious sound but lacks the smoothness of the sabre chip.  This one will be my Op amp rolling test bed as I read many a guys got some really nice results using different op amps on this one. For the guys that don't know. I can change the output sound on these just by taking out the stock chip and throwing in one of these. This will be my first time changing out Op amps so this should be interesting.

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Edited by Dsnuts - 12/2/12 at 10:52pm
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Nice write-up there.  I agree the Cirrus CS4398 sound is clean like the Sabre but with a bit more texture and shimmer I think.

 

What you can do while waiting for your chips if you want is swap the JRC4556 and LM4562 in your Fire Phoenix for fun.  I'm pretty sure the LM is driving the line-out and JRC the headphone, so then their tasks are switched.

post #5364 of 32858
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post

does the cable only go on one side and is the s400 bassy?

 

Yes, on the NIA, the detachable cable with 3.5mm jack goes to the left side only, they are also more bassy than the S400

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

You can't see they directly copied the AIWA logo, and that NIA is only a very simple combination of soNY and aiwA?

 

Pardon my Doh moment, but I still don't get it ? confused.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Now this one I have seen before.

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Philips SHL8800?

700

Here is an original design. I like these EARphones.

700

 

You got eagle's eyes, I rushed out to a nearby audio shop to check and indeed the NIA are a copy of the SHL8800 but other than the physical headphones all similiarities ends there.

The Philips are strictly headphones with a wimpy cable permenantly attached, the chinese took that design (or rather copied it) and throw in a MP3 DAP, FM tuner, cable attachment and a Micro SD card reader and is selling the whole shebang at one third the price of the barebones Philips; refer:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180981856132?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-Headband-headphones-Exchangeable-ear-shell-patterns-SHL8800-New-/250893725136?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item3a6a6e6dd0

 

Straight out of box, I wasn't surprised that they sounded like cheap china headphones, 24hrs of burn later they were comparable to my S400    .....but what I was really surprised with is how they sound now after I manage to get hold of an OFC inter-connect cable (have not used that term for decadesbiggrin.gif) and plug into my usual sources.

Listening to some of my tracks I am able to hear a 3D imaging of the instruments playing which I have never gotten from either of the JVCs, I can sense not only the notes moving from left to right but also forward, backwards, up and down. Bass now goes as deep as the S500 with much better mids.

If I may describe the sound signature I would say they are just like a headphone version of the SHE3580 but with more forward mids. (no wonder they sounded familiar) In many ways they are also like the MH1C but with a different signature.

 

DSnuts, I am as amazed by the price/performance ratio of these headphones as you are with the ELE DAC.


Edited by Ghostfit - 12/3/12 at 9:17am
post #5365 of 32858
Originally Posted by Ghostfit View Post

 

Pardon my Doh moment, but I still don't get it ? confused.gif

 

Look at the NIA logo and the AIWA logo, www.aiwa.com

post #5366 of 32858
Thread Starter 

Well if this ups worker is delivering I am buying.

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Will check one out. They are so cheap. Lol. We all know young blonde girls deliver them cheap headphones. This alone is worth the $18..Will try it out with my equally cheap Ele dac.


Edited by Dsnuts - 12/3/12 at 9:50am
post #5367 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Ghostfit View Post

 

Yes, on the NIA, the detachable cable with 3.5mm jack goes to the left side only, they are also more bassy than the S400

 

Pardon my Doh moment, but I still don't get it ? confused.gif

 

 

You got eagle's eyes, I rushed out to a nearby audio shop to check and indeed the NIA are a copy of the SHL8800 but other than the physical headphones all similiarities ends there.

The Philips are strictly headphones with a wimpy cable permenantly attached, the chinese took that design (or rather copied it) and throw in a MP3 DAP, FM tuner, cable attachment and a Micro SD card reader and is selling the whole shebang at one third the price of the barebones Philips; refer:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180981856132?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-Headband-headphones-Exchangeable-ear-shell-patterns-SHL8800-New-/250893725136?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item3a6a6e6dd0

 

Straight out of box, I wasn't surprised that they sounded like cheap china headphones, 24hrs of burn later they were comparable to my S400    .....but what I was really surprised with is how they sound now after I manage to get hold of an OFC inter-connect cable (have not used that term for decadesbiggrin.gif) and plug into my usual sources.

Listening to some of my tracks I am able to hear a 3D imaging of the instruments playing which I have never gotten from either of the JVCs, I can sense not only the notes moving from left to right but also forward, backwards, up and down. Bass now goes as deep as the S500 with much better mids.

If I may describe the sound signature I would say they are just like a headphone version of the SHE3580 but with more forward mids. (no wonder they sounded familiar) In many ways they are also like the MH1C but with a different signature.

 

DSnuts, I am as amazed by the price/performance ratio of these headphones as you are with the ELE DAC.

 

Hey Ghost is this Holy Serpent HD900 the same as the NIA cans??? Looks very similar, but I can't seem to find the NIA ones on Tmall or taobao for some reason.

http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.1.UaeUVE&id=16151413944&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

 

Not really sure what a OFC inter-connect cable is, care to link me to some on ebay or something? Thanks!

post #5368 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Ghostfit View Post

 

You got eagle's eyes, I rushed out to a nearby audio shop to check and indeed the NIA are a copy of the SHL8800 but other than the physical headphones all similiarities ends there.

The Philips are strictly headphones with a wimpy cable permenantly attached, the chinese took that design (or rather copied it) and throw in a MP3 DAP, FM tuner, cable attachment and a Micro SD card reader and is selling the whole shebang at one third the price of the barebones Philips; refer:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180981856132?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-Headband-headphones-Exchangeable-ear-shell-patterns-SHL8800-New-/250893725136?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item3a6a6e6dd0

 

Straight out of box, I wasn't surprised that they sounded like cheap china headphones, 24hrs of burn later they were comparable to my S400    .....but what I was really surprised with is how they sound now after I manage to get hold of an OFC inter-connect cable (have not used that term for decadesbiggrin.gif) and plug into my usual sources.

Listening to some of my tracks I am able to hear a 3D imaging of the instruments playing which I have never gotten from either of the JVCs, I can sense not only the notes moving from left to right but also forward, backwards, up and down. Bass now goes as deep as the S500 with much better mids.

If I may describe the sound signature I would say they are just like a headphone version of the SHE3580 but with more forward mids. (no wonder they sounded familiar) In many ways they are also like the MH1C but with a different signature.

 

DSnuts, I am as amazed by the price/performance ratio of these headphones as you are with the ELE DAC.

Hi Ghostfit, did I read right that you imply this thing has a SQ on par with S400 and S500 and actually better in some way, but with a MP3 DAP, FM tuner, cable attachment and a Micro SD card reader and cost less than S400? I have non of the above and consider buying one of this. Since you have all of them, do you recommend or not this over S400 and S500? at least performance/ price wise?

 

Thanks for the input.

post #5369 of 32858
Just got the gr07 bass edition and all i can say is :0.......bass is very organic sounding, mids are foward and clear, treble is smooth and sound stage is very wide and erie sounding.....very impressed so far....next on my list fxz200 tongue.gif
post #5370 of 32858

I borrowed back my FX40 early this morning to use while studying just out of pure curiosity and man, I forgot just how good those things sound, especially at low volumes.

 

Honestly, the next time I see a "what should I buy" thread, I'll just tell them to buy a MH1C and FX40, and run for the hills far away from this site.

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