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41bbMNBKolL._SL500_AA300_.jpgI am thinking these Jlab tips will do the same job if not better than the Meelec bi flanges.. For 2 reasons. Same design and it looks like the sound hole is a bit smaller too.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GFD1R4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_g23_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=01M14J3NNAST6GP6VVMX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846


Edited by Dsnuts - 1/6/12 at 10:14am
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I gave the CK7 and Isurus another quick listen. I used the same tips (Sony Hybrids) on both. My basic conclusion is the CK7 has a more centralized and smaller soundstage, bit deeper bass and cleaner treble. The Isurus, does have a fuller midrange and edgier treble. If I had to place the sound signature of the isurus, it matches the ATH-ES7 that I used to own. I think that the CK7 is a different sound signature than what Audio-Technica might normally present. Its quite analytical with bass (think ety ER-6i + bass).

 

Check this older review, that I agree with... http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7666

 

Both good headphones.

 

 

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Do you find the sound signature to be similar.  I know they are completely different earphones and I don't expect them to be the same exact sound but my theory of the AT sound signature is what is at question. It is only AT that have headphones and earphones that have enhanced highs on their headphones.  That is one of the main reasons why I am thinking these are rebrands of a AT model.  I expected the CK7 to be a more analytical as it uses titanium housing..I am thinking the drivers on the isurus being more closer to the CKM77 vs the CKM99 as the CKM77 uses aluminum housing.  Believe me I am tempted to just buy a CKM77 and try them to confirm but that is money I can put toward other things I need at the moment.



 


Edited by dflock - 1/6/12 at 6:24pm
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You can understand then how I would think the isurus is in line with the AT signature.. Myself owning 4 Audio Technica headphones and while every single one sounds different to one another.  I can tell an Audio Technica sound signature easily.. The M50 for example. If anyone has heard those before that is your typical AT sound signature. Same with the AD700 for open design..

 

And this was my conclusion going into this thread. The isurus is using an AT driver. It might be the CKM77 or the CKM99.. These are the only 2 AT earphones that not only has the same housing design but also I am guessing they must sound very similar to the isurus. 

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i think the reason some are getting different results is :

1) isurus needs burn in big time, for a long time, and hard stuff no weak white noise either.

2) dont play them super loud when your doing critical listening, turn it down some. any speaker sounds awful if turned way way up same with earphones. the isurus do sound really good.

3) make sure and get a super good seal.

4) let your ears adjust to them, switching from one to the next right away everything sounds awful.


Edited by david8613 - 1/6/12 at 12:57pm
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i think the reason some are getting different results is :

1) isurus needs burn in big time, for a long time, and hard stuff no weak white noise either.

2) dont play them super loud when your doing critical listening, turn it down some. any speaker sounds awful if turned way way up. the isurus do sound really good.

3) make sure and get a super good seal.

4) let your ears adjust to them, switching from one to the next right away everything sounds awful.


Well, I don't get a great seal and think they sound great. The tips I use for some odd reason(never had this before) seal and sound the same way whether I try to twist them, insert them deeper, whatever they don't change. Fit is kinda personal and is subjective. A super seal gives a bit too much of a bass slant and hides some treble and detail, IME.

 

I also thought they sounded quite good out of the box though burn in has shown slow and steady improvements.

 

Don't think they sound awful coming my Audio-technica. Maybe a bit clearer. held up right after the M2C as well. They will never step up to the level of my recabled TF10 but put up some fight. They always impressed when AB'd against other phones even if they don't win.

 

They are as easy to drive as anything I have. I don't see how people can play them super loud when critical listening. i also turn them up that extra notch since they gain a bit of sparkle and liveliness and there detail is more apparent.

 

rolleyes.gif Goes to show that there are so many variables that I really don't experience any of those 4 with negative results. Of course why worry about what anyone else hears? With their ears and equipment and even taste/personality you can't expect things to match up.

 

 

  On a related note, I did get my 3580 today. The Isurus is not really convenient for active pursuits since it is regular wearing style, the extra treble may not get along as well with brighter hissy AM sports radio and certain podcasts(depends on how well they are recorded), and my Degen radio has a speaker which does not turn off since the pins on the plug don't line up right(Mee adapter needed adding extra unwanted cord length). The Philips will fill that niche nicely with the small size, over ear wearing, and smooth signature. They sound quite a bit like a better sounding JVC FX67. Not as well built as the JVC but a clear step up in the sound department. I can see people gravitating to the Philips even over the Isurus. One is sharper and one is smoother. Let's see what happens with burn in. I hear the Philips opens up some. They do sound smaller than the Tt in total stage size though the 3580 is airy sounding/layered well.   

 


Edited by jant71 - 1/6/12 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

i think the reason some are getting different results is :

1) isurus needs burn in big time, for a long time, and hard stuff no weak white noise either.

2) dont play them super loud when your doing critical listening, turn it down some. any speaker sounds awful if turned way way up same with earphones. the isurus do sound really good.

3) make sure and get a super good seal.

4) let your ears adjust to them, switching from one to the next right away everything sounds awful.


 

 

 


Missing the most important thing......The source player!!

 

 

I have a Sansa rockboxed......today i buy a Ipod Classic 7Gen.....and my Radiopaq JAZZ grew up to twice, three, ten twices the SQ, I do not know.


Not need to tamper with the EQ to get a fantastic sound, which have not with the Sansa.

 

 

 

So, please, who are not liking the TT,  tell us which source are using.

 

 

 


btw, my TT has not arrived yet.: (

 


Edited by pack21 - 1/6/12 at 2:32pm
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Missing the most important thing......The source player!!

 

I have a Sansa rockboxed......today i buy a Ipod Classic 7Gen.....and my Radiopaq JAZZ grew up to twice, three, ten twices the SQ, I do not know.


Not need to tamper with the EQ to get a fantastic sound, which have not with the Sansa.

 

So, please, who are not liking the TT,  tell us which source are using.

 

btw, my TT has not arrived yet.: (


I've been testing mine through a Pioneer 1020 AVR as well as my Desktop's mobo headphone jack--mostly CD's and 256-328kbs MP3's through WMP or a PS3.  I personally don't care for them because of the sibilance and only the sibilance.  On the rare track or material where it doesn't stand out, I think they sound great, but in general it's very obvious and not only nullifies any advantages they may have over the SHE3580 or MP8320--it actually winds up putting them at a considerable disadvantage to my ears.

 

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Curses, Dsnuts!

The stuff you find are never available here... if they can be obtained, its at least double the price! lol

Ahh Quebec why must you have such expensive price tags and bad selection (and such high taxes and the list goes on)...

 

Oh well, I will think about it; I'm sure its worth the investment although I'm just finding myself a little swamped with gears.

 

**EDIT**

Forgot to ask: does the Isurus work well with an iphone (not that I have one but my brother might be interested)?


Edited by kalbee - 1/6/12 at 5:33pm
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Sorry man. Can't say. It works great with my LG Optimus..I have no idea if it works with Iphone.. I bet you might be able to find the Philips SHE3580 there. These are worth tracking down at your local electronics store. They should be cheap too.  1 outta 2 aint bad.

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Why shouldn't they work with an iPhone? If iPhone's 3,5mm jack is working fine so will earphones.

If you are worried about microphone you should read posts, as I remember there were some telling if it works.

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yes, i'm at maybe 120 hours. went to the sony hybrid tips from the complys. much better now without the shrill that i had when i first opened them. they do seem to take some power to get them up to level.

i got the XePort 5010s in the post today....what a disappointment


 

 


wow, XePort just sent me new ones, i don't even have to do the return song and dance!

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@Dsnuts: Actually the isurus is arguably easier to find; just not locally. The only Philips left around are the O'Neil ones (which I believe you've tried), though not looking into that much bass :P

 

@nipit: Right, it was about the mic buttons working or not. Went back for the search and found it... and stupidly enough I've already read it! Well that was stupid of me xD

 

Thanks guys :D

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Ya it seems their QC is not all that great. I have a hard time putting in my black plates. The other plates seem fine but the black ones I have to be careful with. Kinda sucks..So it turns out that all the plates are the same with only the filter being different. You try that with no plate? lol! It is all bass all the time.

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the source I'm using is an iPhone 4g, I use pandora, the iPod, mix.dj app, house radio app, I love house music app. in the beginning the isurus were not my favorite but I have to admit as I'm burning them very intensely, just about beating them, she likes it!LOL! I'm liking them more than ever, silibince thing has toned down alot, Istill like my Phillips but they are just more fun to listen to, with that exaggerated panning. the isurus is morerealistic I guess. any good iPhone music apps to do more critical listening? I listen to all kinds of music so itdoesn't matter what kind it is.... oh yeah my little control button thingy doesn't work at all, dont really care though, they are sounding great now, I don't wanna go through burning another set, takes way too long! 


Edited by david8613 - 1/6/12 at 6:22pm
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Got my pair, but I didn't get a chance to critically listen to them. They have a fairly even sound signature and it just a tad bit analytical. Sounds like $80 to me. I'm glad I got it, I'll write a review later.

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