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Thread Starter 

This is interesting. I read this review of a different Audio Technica model the much more expensive ATH-CK731ED0qJYjML._SL500_AA300_.jpg I know many of you guys have doubts about my claim that these isurus might or might not be AT rebrands.. This is what I mean by AT house sound.. Take a read about this iem from a guy that wrote it in 2008.

 

Simply Fantastic 1/24/2008

"<p>I have owned the CK7 (which is made in Japan!) for about a year now and I am still blown away each time I use them. I have owned about 20-30 other canalphones and the CK7 is my absolute favorite. The highs are sparkly and beautiful, the midrange presence is fantastic, and the bass has great impact without being "boomy" or overwhelming. The attack is excellent and these are great for rock or metal since they can keep up with a double bass. I also use them to listen to Jazz and classical music. On a high quality recording you can even make out the impact of the piano keys or the fingers strumming the guitar strings. Wind instruments have a fantastic airy quality, usually only found on more expensive headphones or speakers. They do not have a warm sound but are better for it since they are precise and technical.</p> <p>The CK7 comes in a beautiful titanium housing that looks great and really protects the delicate drivers inside. I take good care of my electronics but they still tend to get tossed around since I use them almost every day. My CK7 has held up extremely well and looks as good as new.</p> <p>Also of note is that the CK7 has a "Y" shaped cord unlike the "J" cord which is popular with manufacturers these days but generally not with consumers. Included in the package are 3 sizes of tips and a thin leatherette pouch.</p> <p>All in all anyone looking for an amazing pair of earphones with fantastic sound and decent isolation should check these out. You will not be disappointed.</p> <p>Just note that directly out of the box the CK7 can sound a bit harsh or shrill. Give them some time. The drivers need to be burned in, and after a few days of use they will really come into their own. You may want to let them play overnight before using them the first time.</p>  "

 

I know this is a completely different model but what this guy is describing in sound is indeed the AT house sound..Which also describes the sound from the isurus.


Edited by Dsnuts - 1/5/12 at 6:23pm
post #512 of 32910

Ds i ordered and got mine today from amazon based on your impressions i can say not disappointed in the least these  phones rock!!!plus for under $30 these beat some earphones i have on $100+ range such as the se215,klips4, monster turbines,westone1,klips custom1phoniak, to name a few!!!i am ordering second pair asap lol

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Does anyone have all possible tips for the Isurus. There needs to be a post where someone compares the different tips sonically. 

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I received both the Philips & the Isurus' today (gotta love Amazon & their affiliates) My main use for IEMs is listening to music each night in bed before I fall asleep, via my RB'd Sansas. Both sets suffer from p@ss-poor packaging of their cords, all compressed into a tight lump, held together with a twist tie. No wonder the cords are the way they are. How hard would it be to design packaging that treats them better? I mean ...really? I had the same issue with the mee M6's too, was like wrestling an octopus out of the box each time I wanted to use them.

 

Anyways, I switched out the stock Isurus tips to the mee 6p duo flanges right off the bat. Not sure about the fit yet, but I can tell that these show much promise, except for some sibilances as noted, but other that that they sound pretty darn good even before burn in (doing that now)

The Philips are gonna be fun, as they are easy to put in using the supplied tips & already sound great to me. Looking forward to using them this evening & beyond.

post #515 of 32910
Thread Starter 

I am glad you guys are all smiles about your new earphones. Lets just say I specialize in the rare unknown..I feel like a field tester sometimes but hey I do this out of my own curiosity more than anything. I have 6 earphones on order for example. I keep the best and reject the rest..

 

For tips so far the best 4 that were mentioned are

 

1) JVC HAFXC51 tips. Is what I am using. Beyond perfect these are exactly what the TT should have came with. These curbs them highs and nothing else is affected.

 

2)Meelec bi flanges. Many of the guys use these and from my own experience curbs the highs and some of the bass as well

 

3)Sony hybrids. These softens the highs the least of the 4 but does soften them and bass is big using these.

 

4)Comply foams. These will work too as they will deaden some of the sound giving a better balance.

 

Using one of these and a solid burn and you guys get a nice expensive sounding earphone on the cheap. The key to a better tip is smaller sound hole.

 

@rammlied69. Wow that's some high praise. Not everyone hears these the way you and I do however.. But you can clearly tell these don't sound like cheapo $30 phones. Wait till you get some proper burn in time. These improve. Burn my friend burn.. You guys should try leaving them on a radio station fairly loud. Stick em in your drawer somewhere and leave them there for several days n nights. Speeds up the maturing process. Like fine scotch. The longer you let them be the better they get.

 

@cristoophat.. You made a comment about how being here at headfi is taking your money on my Mp8320 thread.. Hey man not when you follow one of my threads. You realize you just got 3 of the best sounding earphones for around $50 ? Lol. In headfi terms that don't even get you a E11 portable amp . Glad to have you on board my friend burn them isurus and enjoy your new phones.

 

 

 


Edited by Dsnuts - 1/5/12 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by rammlied69 View Post

the tt isurus arrived today from amazon$28 with free shipping!!! my impression without any burn in is wow these are quite for  good the price although i notice some harshness in upper high freq.the bass and mids are quite good overall i am very impressed. thnx for the hot tip on these. my only complaint is the cord not a big fan of the shorter left side wish they came in standard y cord !!!but the comfort is good so far. i say outta the box they beat the monster turbines and dre. beats tour by a long shot!!!!amazing at this price range



???!!! bettter than the turbine??? Hmm I just may have to pick these up seeing as i'm in the market for a new pair of in-ears. Do these match the bass of the turbines? Or do they just beat them in overall sound quality?

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Originally Posted by quisxx View Post



???!!! bettter than the turbine??? Hmm I just may have to pick these up seeing as i'm in the market for a new pair of in-ears. Do these match the bass of the turbines? Or do they just beat them in overall sound quality?



They may not quite beat them in the deep bass rumble department, but easily outperforms them in sound quality and a with a much wider sound stage.

post #518 of 32910

o ok, thanks for the clear up

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1st disappointment of the Tt Isurus. Mic and mic button dont work with my iPhone (FML, I was looking forward to that). Also, sounds weird out of computer without the adapter.

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I have a hunch that the Comply Tx-400 will be better than any silicone tip for taming the highs on the Isurus.  It's got a fibre filter covering the whole sound hole FFS. smile.gif

post #522 of 32910

And here's what I hope would be a more popular album EQed for the SHE3580: Iron Maiden's Live After Death concert CD, disc 1.

 

Original mp3s:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dapk1j1lszjhx2k

 

EQed mp3s:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2h9r2vpvi7y81rh

 

The EQed version has an even smoother, well rounded texture to my ears.  If it works for you, try turning up the volume a little.  Part of the reason I like the EQ so much is that I can listen louder for longer (well not exactly LOUD; I know the dangers) without being fatigued by the treble spikes.  Although going by the impressions here many people already find these an easy listen in stock form, perhaps the EQed sound would sound muted to you.  That's why I suggest that you try turning up the volume a bit.

 

If you like what you hear, the EQ preset can be used in Electri-Q from Foobar2000 or winamp:

Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/download

Electri-Q http://www.aixcoustic.com/index.php/posihfopit_edition/30/0/

George Yohng's VST wrapper (needed to load Electri-Q properly to load EQ presets) http://www.yohng.com/software/foobarvst.html

My EQ presets:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

FWIW I'm uploading two versions of the Electri-Q EQ settings I'm using right now: my actual settings (with treble dips customized to my ear canal resonances) and one with the dips in the treble smoothed over (giving a general treble cut which doesn't sound as good to my ears but should work for most people)

 

My settings:<-click for file

custom.jpg

 

Generic settings:<-click for file

generic.jpg

 

edit: in order to load the presets, please use George Yohng's VST wrapper instead of foobar's foo_vst plugin to load the Electri-Q VST.

http://www.yohng.com/software/foobarvst.html

 

It runs just about any VST I use better than foo_vst and allows Electri-Q preset files to be loaded and saved properly.  Only drawback is it can only load one plugin at a time, you can still load other VST plugins using foo_vst.


PS. Please, the mp3s provided here are provided for evaluation purposes only.  If you haven't heard Iron Maiden before and like what you hear please purchase from official channels.


Edited by Joe Bloggs - 1/6/12 at 1:44am
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Dsnuts,

 

 

I happen to have the ATH-CK7, as well as the Isurus. I did a quick A/B of the two and they are pretty different. CK7 has a much cleaner, maybe analytical sound. Bass is clean and goes much lower than thermaltakes (and respond to amping much more). They have similair treble.  But they def. both responded well to burn-in. As they both have sharp treble out of the box. CK7s suffer from terrible fit issues also... so lots of people call them "bright" due to a lack of a seal just like Isurus.

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

This is interesting. I read this review of a different Audio Technica model the much more expensive ATH-CK731ED0qJYjML._SL500_AA300_.jpg I know many of you guys have doubts about my claim that these isurus might or might not be AT rebrands.. This is what I mean by AT house sound.. Take a read about this iem from a guy that wrote it in 2008.

 

Simply Fantastic 1/24/2008

"<p>I have owned the CK7 (which is made in Japan!) for about a year now and I am still blown away each time I use them. I have owned about 20-30 other canalphones and the CK7 is my absolute favorite. The highs are sparkly and beautiful, the midrange presence is fantastic, and the bass has great impact without being "boomy" or overwhelming. The attack is excellent and these are great for rock or metal since they can keep up with a double bass. I also use them to listen to Jazz and classical music. On a high quality recording you can even make out the impact of the piano keys or the fingers strumming the guitar strings. Wind instruments have a fantastic airy quality, usually only found on more expensive headphones or speakers. They do not have a warm sound but are better for it since they are precise and technical.</p> <p>The CK7 comes in a beautiful titanium housing that looks great and really protects the delicate drivers inside. I take good care of my electronics but they still tend to get tossed around since I use them almost every day. My CK7 has held up extremely well and looks as good as new.</p> <p>Also of note is that the CK7 has a "Y" shaped cord unlike the "J" cord which is popular with manufacturers these days but generally not with consumers. Included in the package are 3 sizes of tips and a thin leatherette pouch.</p> <p>All in all anyone looking for an amazing pair of earphones with fantastic sound and decent isolation should check these out. You will not be disappointed.</p> <p>Just note that directly out of the box the CK7 can sound a bit harsh or shrill. Give them some time. The drivers need to be burned in, and after a few days of use they will really come into their own. You may want to let them play overnight before using them the first time.</p>  "

 

I know this is a completely different model but what this guy is describing in sound is indeed the AT house sound..Which also describes the sound from the isurus.



 

post #525 of 32910
Thread Starter 

Do you find the sound signature to be similar.  I know they are completely different earphones and I don't expect them to be the same exact sound but my theory of the AT sound signature is what is at question. It is only AT that have headphones and earphones that have enhanced highs on their headphones.  That is one of the main reasons why I am thinking these are rebrands of a AT model.  I expected the CK7 to be a more analytical as it uses titanium housing..I am thinking the drivers on the isurus being more closer to the CKM77 vs the CKM99 as the CKM77 uses aluminum housing.  Believe me I am tempted to just buy a CKM77 and try them to confirm but that is money I can put toward other things I need at the moment.

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