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I can for one though agree on the soundstage it is Huge HUGE HUGE!!!!! So are other FADs I have heard not including the adagio V which is smaller. However this is at the end of the day a bad head ohone and whole I can appreciate that it's not my preferred preference.

Oh and these are also really tip dependent!
post #3662 of 32897
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I can feel that train starting to toot them horns.! A bit off topic but. Don't know if you guys heard about the XBA-3s at future shop being sold for $100.

I managed to luck out. No I ain't Canadian but my best friend is. I told him to look into it for me and what you know. It looks like I will be the lucky recipient of a brand new XBA-3 for $100. The very last one they had there too as the deal was too good to be true it seems. But it was a legit deal.

But I did hear Sony is matching prices so it might be worth calling up your local Sony style shop to grab what I feel is a mighty deal indeed.

I managed to get one of these XBA3 and have been using them all weekend. At $99 they really are good! The have large bass but not at the expense of the mids and the treble is clear without any spikes. The treble is never sibilant in my opinion but I prefer a slightly edgier treble at the risk of sibilance.

I am actually enjoying the XBA3 more than my GR07 MK2. The stronger bass just makes the XBA3 funner to listen to. The GR07 is more balanced though. Detail wise I think they are about the same with each having areas where they are better at but overall they balance out.
Edited by dweaver - 10/8/12 at 10:43am
post #3663 of 32897
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Oh yea I thought it was a typo when I got on Futureshop web site. I lucked out as my buddy who lives in Vancouver ended up snagging the last pair they had near his house. I also lucked out just now as I just got the last pair of UE6000 at the U.S. Apple store it seems..Nope just checked. They got more. Hey guys read this.

 

The UE-6000 has a very heavy bass, and when i-device bass reducer is used, the sound becomes the best I've heard, which goes up to the Sennheiser HD800 and 40 other headphones in between. With that EQ enabled, the sound is better than the new Sennheiser Amperior. Bass goes full-strength down to 30 hz at least, mids are warm and lush, but uncolored, and the highs compare well to my favorite for highs - the $700 Shure 1840. Note that probably any other review you read will not use bass reduction, and thus you'll not see a report on the amazing potential of this UE-6000 headphone. It's that good.

Was this useful?

 


After this read and Tylls glowing review of them as these are going on his wall of fame. SOLD!


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/8/12 at 4:56pm
post #3664 of 32897
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So you guys been waiting for something on these. Well here it is. I bought these the last time I was on ebay ordering the HA-S400 which is fantastic JVC product that you all should look into when they come to the states. Those on ears have 30mm Carbon Nanotube drivers and will cost a mere $25 or so on the streets. Anyway that is another product. These are JVCs unknown newest earphones the JVC FX31.

 

  • Specifications:
    • Model: dynamic type
    • Code :1.2m(Y type ) 3.5 mm dia. 24 gold plated L type stereo mini plugs
    • Playback frequency: 8 Hz-23000 Hz
    • Impedance: 16 ohm
    • Output sound pressure level: 101dB/1mW
    • Weight: approx. 3.2 g (without code)
    • Maximum allowable input: 200 mW IEC

 

As with any JVC product this year these definitely throw more than the cost payed for them. They cost currently on ebay for around $27 with about $13 shipped to you. As far as I know yet another Japan only product.  And these and the FX101 are the only 2 earphones that JVC did not use their astounding Carbon nanotube material so it seems they have faith in the old standard drivers as they still use them. But we all know the old drivers have been the industry standard for countless years for a reason. It is all about the tuning.

 

The Looks of the earphones look bigger on the pics but these are actually very small, one of the most comfy earphones I have ever put into my ears actually as much like the FX40 use an overall smaller housing and smaller drivers..The build is identical to the FX40. Exact actually. Including minimal microphonics which I love about JVC stuff. The packaging is similar to the Philips or Panasonic earphones in that it is a bare minimum packaging. Extra tips in the 3 sizes and a clip but no pouch.

So it seems these were made for your consumer to pick up and start enjoying with your phone or dap.And for the intended use they shine.  What is interesting is how they tuned these. This is what I mean. Read on.

 

 

The sound?

 

Sparkly treble is the main feature of these earphones. Treble fans should take note. These have a sparkle to the treble that I haven't heard since the old JVC FXC51. I would say about equal to them actually.  More colored in the upper spectrum? Yes. So much so I had to burn them in right away to see if it settles. And settle they have after 40 hours of burn in. The mids are at a neutral level but since the highs and the bass has a bit more presence we will call it the U of JVC.. 

 

The highs are more refined over the FX101 and I would say have a similar level of emphasis as the FX40. However a bit more colored. The mids while accurate are somewhat flat in sound and not as forward as I would like them to be especially the upper mids to go with the sparkly treble. Instrument separation and definition is clean but I can't help but notice the laid back mids in comparison the sparkle these have..Sibilance on some tunes are detectable but nothing that will make you cringe. Probably one of the best examples of sparkle in your treble I have heard. The air chamber I noticed help the definition in the tunes I am hearing and while these earphones are small in nature has a nice sense of space in ear for stage. It is not wide nor small. Average at best. Depth of your tunes benefits from the bigger back end so nice depth to the definition as well.

 

The bass end is interesting. As crystalline as the highs are at picking up the little nuances of them highs the bass end is full on. The bass end is somewhere between the FX101 and the FX40.  In other words solid. The bass will surprise you as they don't seem like a bassy type iem and they aren't but when Lil wayne throws them Low lo beats that textured sub bass hit smooth deep and even. So the bass end is all smiles. Just as detailed as it is in the highs. The mid bass is lesser than the sub bass emphasis but for the most part Just like all the other JVC headphones this year JVC did not leave out the bass end for these earphones. Perfect for this sound actually.. EDM, Hip Hop. Modern music sound fantastic on the earphones.

 

Now this is the part that I am somewhat mixed up about. Do I recommend these? Yes and no. What I mean by this? As sparkly and somewhat special I find the sound to the full on sub bass these have. I feel the FX40 and the FX101 both offer a similar type sound and in some cases does things a bit better than these for not even half the cost. But for the guys that don't own a FX40 and or a FX101. These FX31s offer some of the better parts of both earphones while throwing out something that is special on these over them..That crazy crystal like sparkle for one. I also feel the definition in the sound is a step above the FX40 and the bass a bit tighter than the FX101 while reaching just as deep. 

 

With so many new products that will be out this year these are going to be another product much like the FX3X. Special in their own right yet will not get much attention..Fans of sparkly treble and deep full sub bass. Check them out in your favorite color. If not. Now you know what they are like. I feel these are an unofficial upgrade to both the FX40 and the FX101. There are enough sound refinements to these that justifies the bump in cost I would say. Plus they are some of the most comfy earphones on this planet. Similar size to the SHE3580.


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/8/12 at 6:31pm
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I just got the Sony Xb90EX and do you wanna know what my impressions are? ok. I'll tell you - Damn, these Dual driver Able Planets are ******** awesome lol. 

 

I'll write some more impressions on these a bit later, but for now I have to say that you guys that liked XB90EX should definitely check out Able Planet SI500. 

 

 

BTW, I like sonys very, very much. out of the box they sound amazing. will burn them in and add some more impressions. It's not like sony's are inferior to these - on the contrary, almost everything on these are better than on able planet but right now I feel that they are faster than sonys. this especially shows in fast and busy rock passages. maybe some burn in will take care of this...

 

oh, and if you still don't get it - go and order Able Planets. for 30 $ that I got them, these are unbelievable. heck, even for  the 60-80-ish mark that they are right now, they are definitely worth checking out.

post #3666 of 32897

JVC is trowing out so many products, its crazy.. whats up with these guys!!?!?!?  tongue_smile.gif
 

post #3667 of 32897
Thanks for the review on those jvc's ds. I'll be content with the nanotubes.
post #3668 of 32897
Thread Starter 

They actually sound very nice it is that the FXD earphones are above these so it makes no sense to get these over the FXD earphones. I think if the FX101 or the FX40 didn't exist these would be something else but since they do and for the cost you can get a FXD for just a bit more these will certainly be overlooked.


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/8/12 at 4:40pm
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I'm loving sonys much more now. I don't know why, but after about a 1.5 hours of burn in, they became so much more detailed :| it's not my brain playing tricks, because I've compared it to the able planet once again and they don't seem as speedy compared to sonys any more. more than that - sonys now handle rock passages much better :/ it's weird, I'm sure it's not subjective but they sound much better after several hours of use/burn in :D call me crazy or whatever. oh, by the way - these go uo quite high - 17khz at normal listening volumes and up to 20 if you cranck the volume a bit. sub bass - well, I feel and kinda hear it at 20hz, and feel it till about 15 lol. 

 

I really like how there is literary no mid bass hump that I despise so. sub-bass is not your one note bass thing - it's really accurate and quantity is pretty good. a little better than my able planet. mids are as good or better than what you'll hear on able planet and upper extension is better also.it's sparkly - v ery sparkly, even sibilant at some point but nothing serious. so yeah - I guess higher amount of treble will be too much for me (but I still want the JVC FXD80 lol). details are lot more than in the able planets or anything I've heard frankly :D

 

sound stage is wide. sounds come from outside of ears - not inside and stereo imaging is gorgeous. it creates an illusion of a very wide stage. you guys were right saying that orchetra music sounds great on these. 

 

build quality and comfort are really good too - they have some smart fellas working on the design of these iems - enormous housings are really comfortable to fit. I've changed the tip to able planet stock mediums - these fit great and sound great. meelec m21 tips were too wide, they fit very loosely and one of them even got stuck in my ear when trying to remove...

 

feel free to ask me anything. I'll try and answer all of the questions.

post #3670 of 32897
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Glad your diggin on them XB90s. They are a blast to listen to indeed..You are just getting used to their sound is what it is. I would burn them in real good. You will hear stuff in the mids you have never heard before on really good recordings..Listen to everything you have and you will get some crazy sounds you have never heard before. It did that for me at least.

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Glad your diggin on them XB90s. They are a blast to listen to indeed..You are just getting used to their sound is what it is. I would burn them in real good. You will hear stuff in the mids you have never heard before on really good recordings..Listen to everything you have and you will get some crazy sounds you have never heard before. It did that for me at least.

thanks. they really sound good. and the absence of that annoying mid bass hump is a big plus for these headphones - I'm listening to susumu hirasawas albinioni's adagio and god - I didn't have any idea this piece of music sounded like this :D

 

now only thing to do is to burn them in real good and enjoy :)

 

thanks for recommendations guys - they really helped :)

post #3672 of 32897
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

 I think the III has a wide expansive soundstage. Some others may hear the soundstage as something different. 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

I can for one though agree on the soundstage it is Huge HUGE HUGE!!!!! So are other FADs I have heard not including the adagio V which is smaller. However this is at the end of the day a bad head ohone and whole I can appreciate that it's not my preferred preference.
Oh and these are also really tip dependent!
 

 

 

Which do you think has the larger soundstage?

 

The adagio III or the xb90ex?

 

Thanks!

post #3673 of 32897
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Originally Posted by dhL17 View Post

 

 

 

Which do you think has the larger soundstage?

 

The adagio III or the xb90ex?

 

Thanks!

XB90 = Taller

 

III = Wider 

in sound that is

post #3674 of 32897

I'm doing extensive burn in on the III now, so I'm won't listen to it for about two or three days.

post #3675 of 32897
Thread Starter 

Ya I am burning in the FX31 as well. The thing is if the mids fill out even just a little on these. It will be a game changer. Lol..JVC iems are funny as they change much from open box with burn in so we will see where these go with burn in. The highs are much better than on open box..These remind me a lot of the FXC51s but a closed version.

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