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post #25351 of 32858
Any idea when preorder will be for the 5s? I'm probably headed that route.
post #25352 of 32858
I think vsd5 preorder next week were mentioned somewhere but LMUE has not made any confirmation on that (what I've seen) yet......
post #25353 of 32858
The old Vsonic gear had this odd diamond shape, that I could never get comfortable in or get a good seal. How are these for fit?
post #25354 of 32858
Went to eBay to look, Vsonic send to have modeled the inner part where it contacts the ear on the Westone style (which is based on hearing aids). I generally like the fit and feel of these type of iems.if they sound as good as described, they'd be quite a bargain.
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I find the fit to be one of the best I've ever experienced in an IEM. Yesterday I literally falled a sleep with them in my ears aftern listening to them for more than five hours straight.

They really do offer exceptional value in both sound and form factor.

I can't stop thinking about how the vsd5/7 should be able to outperform these........
post #25356 of 32858
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

Some Duh Discoveries...
1)When you think you are listening at the right volume (at least, when I do), turn down the volume a few notches. I often find the volume is as good or better, details/space better (and my ears less assaulted).
2)Headphones are their own unique beasts in the audio world. While people can disagree on likes and dislikes of full size equipment, amps, speakers, etc, they generally agree on the basic sound (bassy, warm, detailed, etc). Preferences then come into play, you prefer mids to bass, soundstaging to strong image focus (of course, you want it all, but equipment is all flawed in some way or another). When you put things over/on/in your ears, I think a whole other dimension comes into play...anatomy! People have amazingly different takes on the sound of gear here, and, while taste and preference definitely still come into play, it's the only way I can explain one person finding headphone A to be bass deficient, while someone else finds it to have enough or even excessive bass (associated equipment and synergy of the gear can play some part here, but seems to happen even with similar source. I think different ear canal sizes, shapes, turns, pinna shapes, shape of your head, all change the sound coming from those tiny drivers so much that headphones can sound so different from one person to the next, not to mention fit/seal issues with iems (I think there are fit/seal issues with on and over ear headphones as well). just sayin...

well said doctor jazz!  you are a true mad scientist of the headphone experience!  RAVE ON! your pound are very well taken!  WAIT until you get a Berning MicroZotal in six months and

experience flawless amplification that will sparkle your ears like diamond dust!

post #25357 of 32858
(Boring staff meeting, good time to post)...thanks for the kind words, Blue. I heard from Berning, told they will start making those Amos again, though someone else will take over the production/selling of the unit.
post #25358 of 32858
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I find the fit to be one of the best I've ever experienced in an IEM. Yesterday I literally falled a sleep with them in my ears aftern listening to them for more than five hours straight.

They really do offer exceptional value in both sound and form factor.

I can't stop thinking about how the vsd5/7 should be able to outperform these........

peter123 did I miss it? Where are your initial impressions on the sound? Thank you in advance.

post #25359 of 32858
Sorry, maybe I just posted it in the Chinese thread. Here it is:

OK guys, please remember that these are initial impressions after using them for about five hours, keeping them in my ears for most of the time wink.gif

I've not made any direct comparison to other IEM's so far so all is from memory and I've only used them with my X3 so far.

The package is smaller than usual V-sonic packages and accessories are less than usual. There's three pairs of angle flange silicon tips, one foam pair and one double flange pair. The double flange suit me like a glove so that's what I've been using so far.

Build quality is very nice. I really like the way they look and although they're light to wear the still feel sturdy. The cable is also nice and doesn't seem to tangle a lot. Of course removable cables are a nice feature as well. I find the fit to be absolutely perfect for me and I don't miss the swiveling nozzle from the vds1 one single bit. They also fairly easy to drive, I'd say about average among the IEM's that I own.

The sound has great clarity and they offer a full sound without being dark or overly bassy. In all they seem pretty well balanced. The deepest bass is lacking a bit but they still dig pretty deep and I really don't miss any bass on them, but then again I'm no bass head. I don't detect any sibilance whatsoever and still they're not overly smooth like the Tenores either. I must say that these really hit the sweet spot for me and they sound equally great with every genre I've tested them with so far.

Still there's something strange about them and I really don't know how to explain this but in a way they sound a bit artificial. I don't know if you guys are familiar with class t-amps based on tripath chips? Anyway their sound reminds me a bit of the sound those anmpsm put out on speakers: a bit warm, very nice details and very (but not overly) smoth but to some people a bit artificial. Since I run all speakers in my house on tripath based amps this suits me just perfect but others might not like it as much as I do. I don't know if the last part made any sense but that's the best way I'm able to describe them.
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

(Boring staff meeting, good time to post)...thanks for the kind words, Blue. I heard from Berning, told they will start making those Amos again, though someone else will take over the production/selling of the unit.

Yay MicroZotal will be available in six months.  its like a miracle!!  i haven't heard the big brother Zotal, but this is the best headphone amp I've ever heard...truly astonishing, and powerful enough to drive small speakers and be used as a preamp, in fact has speaker terminals on the back...and glows in the dark..

post #25361 of 32858
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

Sorry, maybe I just posted it in the Chinese thread. Here it is:

OK guys, please remember that these are initial impressions after using them for about five hours, keeping them in my ears for most of the time wink.gif

I've not made any direct comparison to other IEM's so far so all is from memory and I've only used them with my X3 so far.

The package is smaller than usual V-sonic packages and accessories are less than usual. There's three pairs of angle flange silicon tips, one foam pair and one double flange pair. The double flange suit me like a glove so that's what I've been using so far.

Build quality is very nice. I really like the way they look and although they're light to wear the still feel sturdy. The cable is also nice and doesn't seem to tangle a lot. Of course removable cables are a nice feature as well. I find the fit to be absolutely perfect for me and I don't miss the swiveling nozzle from the vds1 one single bit. They also fairly easy to drive, I'd say about average among the IEM's that I own.

The sound has great clarity and they offer a full sound without being dark or overly bassy. In all they seem pretty well balanced. The deepest bass is lacking a bit but they still dig pretty deep and I really don't miss any bass on them, but then again I'm no bass head. I don't detect any sibilance whatsoever and still they're not overly smooth like the Tenores either. I must say that these really hit the sweet spot for me and they sound equally great with every genre I've tested them with so far.

Still there's something strange about them and I really don't know how to explain this but in a way they sound a bit artificial. I don't know if you guys are familiar with class t-amps based on tripath chips? Anyway their sound reminds me a bit of the sound those anmpsm put out on speakers: a bit warm, very nice details and very (but not overly) smoth but to some people a bit artificial. Since I run all speakers in my house on tripath based amps this suits me just perfect but others might not like it as much as I do. I don't know if the last part made any sense but that's the best way I'm able to describe them.

what kind of drivers are in the new vsconics?  couldn't find technical descriptions of how they are set up.

sure look interesting though.  that tripath like sound concerns me as i found the old class D amps to sound artificial

and digital, but i hear many great improvements have been made in tripath amp design.  this is not an amp, but it

would be interesting to know what new technology is in these new vsonics.  

 

meanwhile awaiting my ue600vi which arrive tomorrow

with great enthusiasm backing the from several head fires who bought a second set they were so happy with the first. thats putting your

money where your mouth is.  better than putting your mouth where the money is,....or something like that....

post #25362 of 32858
I think they're supposed to be single dynamic but you're right, there's not much information around.

I might also add that after listening to them for several hours I kind of feel like the artificial sound is less obvious. Burn in (brain or driver) maybe....
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HOT NEWS for you all.  I recently dug out my David Berning MICROZOTAL tube amplifier and connected to a

prototype direct coupled DAC my buddy Benjamin from MOJO AUDIO loaned me, new design. hooked up old studio

Senn 650s and BAM i heard the best headphone sound i had heard in years.  Litterally left me speechless.

see   http://davidberning.com/products/microzotl for full description of the device.  ps it works off a 12 volt input also and is

thus technically "portable".

 

I wrote David Berning and asked hi if the MicroZotal was still available and he said it sas no longer in production

(it was the little brother of the very expensive Zotal amp, which has several breakthrough patents on it).  

I told him i was sharing some enthusiastic comments about it with my head-fi.org community, and asked if any used units

came up could he let us know.  

 

I just heard back from him that he has decided to put the MICROZOTAL back into production, available in six months, from another

manufactuer under contract.  this is very good news.microz3c3.jpgTHANKS to David Berning for resurrecting this amazing headphone amp1

microZOTL reviewed by Dick Olsher, enjoythemusic.com, October 2000

"There's undeniably a lot of magic in that little box. ... Just as a lark I plugged [headphones] into the Berning, and I almost fell out of my chair! All of a sudden, resolution and clarity galore! The ugly duckling was instantly transformed into a beautiful swan. Bass lines gained tremendous impact and precision. The midrange snapped into focus as though a thick veil had been lifted from the soundstage..."

microZOTL reviewed by Harvey "Dr. Gizmo" Rosenberg

"[microZOTL] is the best sounding headphone amp I have heard to date."

Looking forward to some of you insatiable sound seekers to experience the glory of the MICROZOTAL!!!

 
post #25364 of 32858
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I think they're supposed to be single dynamic but you're right, there's not much information around.

I might also add that after listening to them for several hours I kind of feel like the artificial sound is less obvious. Burn in (brain or driver) maybe....

brain burn in? thats funny.....glad they are sounding better. vsonics always have benefited by some "experience" ...

i just heard back from lendmeyourears, new supply of vsd3s should be posted for sale on wed in singapore...

should be more reasonable than e bay sellers..

post #25365 of 32858
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Originally Posted by drbluenewmexico View Post
 

brain burn in? thats funny.....glad they are sounding better. vsonics always have benefited by some "experience" ...

i just heard back from lendmeyourears, new supply of vsd3s should be posted for sale on wed in singapore...

should be more reasonable than e bay sellers..

Yeah, people should check the time difference from 10am tomorrow in Singapore to their local time and be ready to buy coz these 20 units will go in few minutes after all the hype. And yeah, price should be $45 with free shipping, so like 30 bucks cheaper than the ebay offer. 

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