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I thought these were a dual BA but apparently they are a single BA. I think I bought a dual or triple BA back in the day quite possibly the notorious TF10 thinking to leap frog this model. Boy was that a mistake! These deserved a listen and are damn comfortable.
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@dweaver

+1 on the ue600vi. I picked up a pair on eBay for $50 shipped about a year ago and still rank them very high.

So far I think they might be the best I've got under $50, let's see if the vsd3s can put up a fight. The Vsonics will be here on Tuesday smily_headphones1.gif
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Doppios are more analytical in approach while the Singolos for having one BA is the bassier earphone of the two.. Some of the guys on the tenor thread mention how the tenors might be a bit too laid back or smooth will find the both the Singolos and Doppios to be more energetic in sound.   Doppios detail level is crazy. It will reveal any microdetailing a recording has as long as it is clean. More neutral of the two phones. Jazz, blues and classical sound stupendous out of the right source using the Doppios. Very sensitive iem however.

 

Singolos are just down right enjoyable as they are tuned to be more musical in approach but because of the BA nature of sound they have excellent speed, surprising fullness, clear articulation,  quick transients with solid treble and bass for a singe ba.  Very excellent for Rock, metal, vocals, and EDM. Quite astonishing actually. Both have better imagery over the tenors especially the Doppios, and yes both need burn in..

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You know now that think about it. If burn-in is real actual tuning is useless, because the iem will change. So why are Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic tuning their fresh drivers and making sure quality control is the same, if the sound is going to change? Wouldn't they demand it, knowing it is necessary for what they intended? Neither of them do...Shure, Sony, Sennheiser, they dont require you to do anything. Ostry recently also states to not even bother....

It's mostly psychological ill say, fit also plays a role
 

 

I always get a chuckle when people ask "how to burn-in"; as if there's hard science to support that, doing nothing - listening to music as you would anyway - is different from the burn-in process. And that, burn-in will transform a headphone you did not like to begin with, into something you love. Wow.


Edited by jarrett - 6/21/14 at 9:32am
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Thanks for chiming in to spam the thread some more.
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Thanks for chiming in to spam the thread some more.

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Guess some mofos just love to instigate poke on......

... i know it's fun for some of ya'll but some thangs is better just left where they lie no??? Especially for tired/old subjects such as "burn-in" that has already been beaten to death by the poop stick. :deadhorse:

 

 

 

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Oh Lovely Arale-Chan!!

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@@Dsnuts Seeing as you have quite the collection right now, I'll go ahead and ask: I enjoy my FX850s(thanks again for the recc, btw), but if I were looking for something similar but slight different in flavor, what would you recommend? ZA's BA offerings, or perhaps something else?

You want something with a bit more neutrality but just as musical with a silky smooth sound  ATH-IM03 with upgraded cable.. Something with a taller fuller sound with the best vocal rendition on the planet with even more lusher bass? ATH-CKR10.. Something more reference in SQ with insanely great mids and one of the best 3D layering of sound.. Nuforce Primo 8

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Thanks for the helpful info Dsnuts. As I'm a Sennheiser HD600, Etymotic ER4, Vsonic GR07, Phonak PFE112 and Tenore user, I'm looking for a detailed/analytical but balanced sounding IEM with smooth top end. Do you find the treble extension of the Doppios equivalent to the ER4 or HD600...or maybe better?

I have seen some Japanese reviews translated of course mention a comparison to the Etymotic ER4s.. The only phone I owned out of the bunch you just listed is the GR07. In comparison the Doppios don't have any sibilance at all but has a similar amount of treble energy, doesn't quite extend as much but don't need to be to have a solid amount of extension here. From memory the treble has better clarity, depth and definition but is way more sensitive over the GR07 so a proper source matching is necessary.  The strong suit of the Doppios are their treble and mids. The bass is actually done very nicely as well but is not the main part of the sound that is emphasized so guys that love their bass need not apply. ...Treble does extend very well and has clear authority without being harsh or too edgy. I made the mistake of trying them out from my ICON dac and it sounded horrible because of probably a higher output rating than the Doppios allow for.  12 Ohm sensitivity means they will need a very low output to sound their best.  My Geek Out and it's .47 Ohm out and bassier sound signature throws the Doppios into overdrive and sounds like a completely different earphone all together in a good way. Still one of the best sounding from my Geek out actually.

Treble extension I find fantastic. I have heard smoother treble in the Primo8 and IM03, both costing way above the Doppios however, Doppios  has one of the best analytical type treble presentations meaning detail and clarity is absolute.  It will pick up every single nuance in your recording in the highs and with a crystaline clarity that is among the best in ears I have owned. I know there was reports of the sound being lean and that is true when using the stock tips which does nothing for the sound. .Must us wider bore tips to open up the sound for full potential,  mids of the Doppios is pin point accurate too a very nice wide open mid section that is also very detailed and precise as well.. Burning in the Doppios for 100 hours brings out the low end fullness and a bit over neutral bass end and balances out the sound.. I honestly think for the going price of $120 or so on Amazon Japan it is one of the better buys..

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So guys, I have a new favorite headphone. See, before it was the ES700 because of its luscious mids. I still love the mids as they make my mouth literally water. But I have a new favorite. It's definitely not a new discovery: the AD900X.


I'm not exactly sure what changed, but a few days ago I was listening to them and was completely blown away! I wondered why they never sounded this good to me before! I plan on getting the Philips L2 in the future, but I'm worried about it replacing the AD900X completely. I don't really wanna own both, so I still have a decision to make.

Nothing wrong with rediscovering your gears. I find myself loving some of my older cans I have all the time. It is good not to hear a phone for  a while only to rediscover them again. That is always a good thing.  AD900X is one of the best Rock and metal cans I know in existence so that is not crazy that you still love them cans.  Get yourself a Singolos first and go from there. I know your gonna dig the Singolos.
So I should definitely get the Singolos right now and get the FX850 when I can afford it? Or should I just go straight for the FX850?
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OK to highlight how serious I am about the UE600vi, I just ordered a 2nd pair from Amazon, something I have never done before.

Wayne and those that love the Mikros 90, I strongly suggest you try these if you have never done so. The imaging on these is simply insane...

 

Thanks for putting yet another IEM on my radar dweaver!

 

But, I just tried that amazon link, and they won't ship to me in Canada. How did you get it to work?

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Oh Lovely Arale-Chan!!


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Arale loves ya' back as well. :  )

 

 

 

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... <333s hugs and kisses. ;)

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Thanks for putting yet another IEM on my radar dweaver!

But, I just tried that amazon link, and they won't ship to me in Canada. How did you get it to work?

That's weird, it worked for me?

If it won't work for you at all let me, as only ordered them as a backup pair so would be willing to part with them.

Also you might be better off grabbing them off eBay. I have seen them for around $50 shipped which is cheaper as I got dinged $13 in shipping plus import taxes.
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So I should definitely get the Singolos right now and get the FX850 when I can afford it? Or should I just go straight for the FX850?

 

Set your sights on the prize. Go for the FX850 if that is what you want. Keep tabs on the price and jump on a cheaper FX850 when you get a chance. Nothing wrong with going for the big boy. The likelihood you will continue to use your other in ears after the FX850 is not really likely so I suppose money towards the prize is the way to go.. But if you plan on using these out and about the FX850 are a bit too nice to lug around outside. That is just me however.

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So I should definitely get the Singolos right now and get the FX850 when I can afford it? Or should I just go straight for the FX850?

Set your sights on the prize. Go for the FX850 if that is what you want. Keep tabs on the price and jump on a cheaper FX850 when you get a chance. Nothing wrong with going for the big boy. The likelihood you will continue to use your other in ears after the FX850 is not really likely so I suppose money towards the prize is the way to go.. But if you plan on using these out and about the FX850 are a bit too nice to lug around outside. That is just me however.
The one thing that is tempting about the Singolo is the fact that it's a BA. I've never heard one before. But you're right, once I get the FX850 I won't use it anymore. I'm sort of a one phone at a time kind of a guy. Well, one IEM, one on ear, and one over ear.

My thoughts with my next IEM is buying a pair that will last me a while so I can focus on other things. And I don't just mean the build, I also want the sound to keep me satisfied for a while. From what you've said the FX850 seems like the best option. That's why I'm willing to spend so much, I'm thinking they'll keep my headphone buying addiction at bay for a while (at least when it comes to IEMs xD).
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Thread Starter 

I wish I was as disciplined..I have plenty of nice sounding phones but I am always curious about new sounds. The possibility of what is out there..

 

I have been looking at a lot of amps as of late to drive my various phones and that is another area that seems to capture my imagination.. It just don't end.

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I wish I was as disciplined..I have plenty of nice sounding phones but I am always curious about new sounds. The possibility of what is out there..

 

I have been looking at a lot of amps as of late to drive my various phones and that is another area that seems to capture my imagination.. It just don't end.

the quest for the magical transformational sound that dances our brains and bodies into a mystical audio state of synethesia

where, to misquote TS Eliot, "the listener becomes the dance>"  the holy grail of sound is forever right around the corner and

getting closer....kudos to all who join this quest in the discovery thread and elsewhere on head-fi for really listening and devoting

their time, energy and resources to this magical and scientific pursuit.  This is as important to us as going into outer space, for

its going into inner space where vibrations create new worlds of sound, communication, and emotion.

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