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Tenore ^ūüėÉ
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

I've talked to Dale - creator of the Aurisonics line - quite a bit. He believes that BAs can and do go through some burn-in process. That (and my ears) is good enough for me. I'm a believer. I heard NO bass when I first listened to the Doppios. I was mad at Dsnuts and thought he lied to me about the bass. He said burn them in for a good 100 hours. Bass came in after that and I almost swear someone switched Doppios on me. Burn in is real! 

Wow...from no bass to bass coming in...that sounds to me like a 6 dB difference...or at least 3dB. Quite an achievement for burning in
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Yes doppios bass coming in nicely with more burn in ūüėÉ
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Quite an achievement keep arguing on the matter. Either you believe or don't. Move on. Too many spammers on every thread showing their superiority and yet they're here posting instead of working for one of these companies and showing them how something should sound or work. Yeah, good luck with that.
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So looks like the Doppios' very burn-in dependant...and what's the sound signature like as compared to the Tenore?

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You know now that think about it. If burn-in is real actual tuning is useless, because the iem will change. So why are Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic tuning their fresh drivers and making sure quality control is the same, if the sound is going to change? Wouldn't they demand it, knowing it is necessary for what they intended? Neither of them do...Shure, Sony, Sennheiser, they dont require you to do anything. Ostry recently also states to not even bother....

It's mostly psychological ill say, fit also plays a role
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Thread Starter 

Can we stop the burn in talk? The last thing I want is for this thread to be locked up because of this discussion.

 

You know when I go to a Starbucks I get exactly what I want in a cup o joe. I like certain amount of crème and sugar.. Not too much not too little. If some guy come barging into my coffee space and tells me I should enjoy my cuppa with no crème and all sugar.

 

I don't know if I will like that person so much.. You my friend mess with other peoples coffee..


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/19/14 at 11:37pm
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I did add to convo, more than the last post you did, which is unnecessarily personal. I put into light that manufacturers don't take burn-in into consideration when tuning and that BA engineers disregard it, bet many didn't know that....

 

Believe or not, many don't take things so personal and like being added with info. 

 

Now I don't expect certain users to change their habits, but it's good for users to know the other side of the coin. Many users here don't go through such work and our experience and evaluation is just as extensive. 

 

My custom tag is hilarious lol, please show respect. 

 

Notice how my posts in the matter are just about information I know, I don't see why you're reading it into a personal attacks to burn-in believers of some sort. 

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Lol. Nice analogy. But really, every has their opinions on the subject. If you're not believer that's fine, but don't make as if it's a fact. It's kinda like religion, you can believe in it and practice it, but don't shove it down people's throat. That's just rude.
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Thread Starter 

Nothing personal. I have full respect for your knowledge as well as everyone else on the threads. If anything I have learned a lot about personalities and what peoples likes and dislikes are about when reading all the various threads. And your right I might have been a bit harsh in what I wrote. However I am just posting some observations from the reactions your posts get here. 

 

In any case lets move on shall we. 

 


Primo8 in the house.

 

Aha what the heck. I will write a bit something about them now. I managed to get a review pair of these and these are about as close to a true reference sounding earphone I have heard..4 BAs in each housing.. I managed to get these to sound absolutely awesome with a bit of crafty tip rolling. Will reveal soon in report.


Sound signature is a mid forward neutral but less so with my crafty tip rolling and is very balanced now, wicked sense of space that makes them sound heavenly. Some very nice tech going on in these phones. Will have a full review up soon.


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/20/14 at 12:03am
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Originally Posted by Francisk View Post
 

So looks like the Doppios' very burn-in dependant...and what's the sound signature like as compared to the Tenore?


 


Doppios are more analytical in approach while the Singolos for having one BA is the bassier earphone of the two.. Some of the guys on the tenor thread mention how the tenors might be a bit too laid back or smooth will find the both the Singolos and Doppios to be more energetic in sound.   Doppios detail level is crazy. It will reveal any microdetailing a recording has as long as it is clean. More neutral of the two phones. Jazz, blues and classical sound stupendous out of the right source using the Doppios. Very sensitive iem however.

 

Singolos are just down right enjoyable as they are tuned to be more musical in approach but because of the BA nature of sound they have excellent speed, surprising fullness, clear articulation,  quick transients with solid treble and bass for a singe ba.  Very excellent for Rock, metal, vocals, and EDM. Quite astonishing actually. Both have better imagery over the tenors especially the Doppios, and yes both need burn in..


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/20/14 at 12:28am
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@Dsnuts Seeing as you have quite the collection right now, I'll go ahead and ask: I enjoy my FX850s(thanks again for the recc, btw), but if I were looking for something similar but slight different in flavor, what would you recommend? ZA's BA offerings, or perhaps something else?
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Doppios are more analytical in approach while the Singolos for having one BA is the bassier earphone of the two.. Some of the guys on the tenor thread mention how the tenors might be a bit too laid back or smooth will find the both the Singolos and Doppios to be more energetic in sound.   Doppios detail level is crazy. It will reveal any microdetailing a recording has as long as it is clean. More neutral of the two phones. Jazz, blues and classical sound stupendous out of the right source using the Doppios. Very sensitive iem however.

 

Singolos are just down right enjoyable as they are tuned to be more musical in approach but because of the BA nature of sound they have excellent speed, surprising fullness, clear articulation,  quick transients with solid treble and bass for a singe ba.  Very excellent for Rock, metal, vocals, and EDM. Quite astonishing actually. Both have better imagery over the tenors especially the Doppios, and yes both need burn in..

Thanks for the helpful info Dsnuts. As I'm a Sennheiser HD600, Etymotic ER4, Vsonic GR07, Phonak PFE112 and Tenore user, I'm looking for a detailed/analytical but balanced sounding IEM with smooth top end. Do you find the treble extension of the Doppios equivalent to the ER4 or HD600...or maybe better?

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Can we stop the burn in talk? The last thing I want is for this thread to be locked up because of this discussion.

You know when I go to a Starbucks I get exactly what I want in a cup o joe. I like certain amount of crème and sugar.. Not too much not too little. If some guy come barging into my coffee space and tells me I should enjoy my cuppa with no crème and all sugar.

I don't know if I will like that person so much.. You my friend mess with other peoples coffee..
You're the man.
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So guys, I have a new favorite headphone. See, before it was the ES700 because of its luscious mids. I still love the mids as they make my mouth literally water. But I have a new favorite. It's definitely not a new discovery: the AD900X.

I'm not exactly sure what changed, but a few days ago I was listening to them and was completely blown away! I wondered why they never sounded this good to me before! I plan on getting the Philips L2 in the future, but I'm worried about it replacing the AD900X completely. I don't really wanna own both, so I still have a decision to make.
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