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post #24946 of 32904
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

Looks like my ckr9s were already burned-in.

the ckr9s may not be so good out of box is it? :P

 

I'm very glad that the singolos are an upgrade, i'm buying that instead of the tenores, though I won't discoutn the tenores to be honest.

 

the ckr5s are interesting, can't wait to hear your impressions.

 

Calling a single BA an upgrade to a dynamic is stretching it. Plus, almost no one is talking about the Singolo. Can they be bought at Amazon yet?

post #24947 of 32904
I don't get that. Why can't a single BA be an upgrade to a single dynamic?

Also, there were not much talk about the Tenores just a few weeks back.............
post #24948 of 32904
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I don't get that. Why can't a single BA be an upgrade to a single dynamic?

Also, there were not much talk about the Tenores just a few weeks back.............

 

+2

post #24949 of 32904
Thread Starter 

I think it really comes down to tuning more so than anything. I have heard bad BA implementation and great BA implementation.. I have heard nasty dynamic implementation and great dynamic implementation. Again it comes down to tuning more so than anything. Many of the nicer sounding FAD phones are BAs for example and those certainly don't sound like your traditional BA phones..

 

Owning all the Zero Audio phones. The Singolos have better precision and detail is also a step above the Tenors. I think the Tenors are excellent phones and micro HD is the closest to BAs in detail performance from the many other MicroHD earphones I own but if it comes down to resolution the singolos are a step above the tenors while having a very similar balance to the tenors.  And considering the resolution of the tenors are excellent in the first place it would take a proprietary BA to actually do one better and that is the reason why ZA went with BA implementation for their newest in the Singolos and Doppios me thinks.   

post #24950 of 32904

Ah, that's cool. I kind of wish Zero Audio had an English version of their website so I could understand their products. Single BA for me has always been a bass response trade-off until I bought the BA200 (dual BA). Hopefully the Singolo is inexpensive once it appears on Amazon Marketplace


Edited by jarrett - 5/30/14 at 10:41am
post #24951 of 32904
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Well, I don't doubt that I might like at least one of these but I've been on head-fi long enough to be cautious of all the hype. It's not like the Havi or the Ostry are the first iems that have been praised as giant killers. They are just the new couple in an endless cycle. There's just always something new - new vsonic iems, a new line of audio-technica iems, a new line of sony multi-BAs, a new line of jvc iems with micro drivers, an unknown model of a sony mobile headset, new jvcs with built in woofers, new vsonics, new ath iems, new dual dynamic iems from a new company, new philips iems, a new line of sony hybrids, some new iems from a new Chinese company, a new line of ath multi-BAs and dynamic drivers, yet another new kids on the Chinese block, yet another line of jvc iems, yeat another line of ath iems, yet another new line of vsonics etc. etc. And that's just for the past 2 years and I'm missing a lot of other stuff. 

At some point one has to draw the line and become a bit pickier and I'm picking the new vsonics :tongue_smile: 

You forgot Tenore and Singolo :)

post #24952 of 32904
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

Singolos been in my ears for the greater part of the evening. I am very impressed with these. These would actually be the upgrade to the tenors..Similar sound tuning to the Tenors actually.  I know many of you guys just got the tenors but the sound of the Singolos seems to hone down what makes the tenors so nice. I like em both actually but for a single BA these have one of the most complete sounds I have heard.. Zero Audio does it again..

 

CKR5s. Need burn in but they have a very similar sound balancing to the CKR9s. AT phones you can't judge from open listen or even a 24 hours of burn. They need minimum of 1 week straight to actually hear what they are really like. These will be no different. I am impressed with these as well and these will get better and better and show me what they are about but only with a good driver beat down.. Will have some more thoughts on these later.

 

CKR9.. Absolute raw drivers out of the box. Lol.. Yet more phones that must be burned in before they sound correct.

BURN BABY BURN

post #24953 of 32904
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

Okay, thanks to a buddy head-fier (two actually), I have the the KC06 in my ears to try. Nice!! Wow, this under-$100 market isn't playing. Can't say the Tenore is better or vice versa. Different sound signatures, but both are great. More bass in the KC06 to my liking, but the Tenore has enough to satisfy. Tenore wins on vocals though, but KC06 is fuller sounding. I don't think I need more bass than this if the KC06 has more. I will also be hearing the the Philip 9710  and FX650 shortly. 

 

It's great that you are trying these out ericp10! At this point, I can't say which of the two I like better, as they do indeed have totally different signatures. When I stick one of the pairs in my ears and my ears get accustomed to the signature, it becomes the best one :)

post #24954 of 32904
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

You forgot Tenore and Singolo :)

Nah, I didn't - they fall in the "new iems from a new Chinese company" category :D

post #24955 of 32904
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

I think it really comes down to tuning more so than anything. I have heard bad BA implementation and great BA implementation.. I have heard nasty dynamic implementation and great dynamic implementation. Again it comes down to tuning more so than anything. Many of the nicer sounding FAD phones are BAs for example and those certainly don't sound like your traditional BA phones..

 

Owning all the Zero Audio phones. The Singolos have better precision and detail is also a step above the Tenors. I think the Tenors are excellent phones and micro HD is the closest to BAs in detail performance from the many other MicroHD earphones I own but if it comes down to resolution the singolos are a step above the tenors while having a very similar balance to the tenors.  And considering the resolution of the tenors are excellent in the first place it would take a proprietary BA to actually do one better and that is the reason why ZA went with BA implementation for their newest in the Singolos and Doppios me thinks.   

+1

post #24956 of 32904
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I don't get that. Why can't a single BA be an upgrade to a single dynamic?

Also, there were not much talk about the Tenores just a few weeks back.............

Dannybai and I have been talking about Tenores since a year ago :D 

 

My post from 8/30/13.  Amazing that it still stands after all of the IEMs I've bought since then.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-singolos-pg1644-doppios-pg1197/13545#post_9758508


Edited by Grayson73 - 5/30/14 at 11:37am
post #24957 of 32904
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Nah, I didn't - they fall in the "new iems from a new Chinese company" category :D

Except that Zero Audio is a Japanese company :D

post #24958 of 32904

I think many of you are approaching the SINGU LO LARITY! they are in some ways more FUN than the other

zero audio products.  Don't be a DOP PIO and give them a try if you haven't yet. will they be your Final Audio

Designation and lead you to Heaven?  they are all good...

post #24959 of 32904
@Grayson73
You're right about that wink.gif

Also more and more talk about the Singolos now so who knows, maybe in a year they get HYPED!
post #24960 of 32904
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

Except that Zero Audio is a Japanese company :D

same difference lol :p

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