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I'd love to hear your impressions on them since you are a fellow CKN70 lover like myself! I apologize if you already have since I haven't gotten any farther in the thread than this post... Although I'm IN LOVE with my R3s at the moment. They have the closest sound signature to JBL speakers which is what I've been searching for all this time! biggrin.gif

I've got something to admit, I'm starting to distance myself from my Gratitudes. I finally understand why Dsnuts isn't a huge fan of them: the mids are very shallow! My ES700s paired with my DX50 have become my favorite headphones so far. Nothing makes me feel the emotion of music like the lush mids of the ES700s.

I'm also considering selling my AD900X and purchasing the Philips X1. Does anyone have any input on that?

I'll try my best, despite being quite unfamiliar with audiophile descriptions. I had to cancel my IM70 order with Accessory Jack though, as they had none in stock. I'm going to order from Kakaku or Tenso but I need help with how to use Kakaku. I also need someone to tell me how you get Kakaku and Tenso to mark the item as a gift to reduce the chances of customs charges.

Check with Accessory Jack before you cancel...I thought something was wrong, emailed last week to find out, got the IM70 2 days later, I'd contact them first.
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Check with Accessory Jack before you cancel...I thought something was wrong, emailed last week to find out, got the IM70 2 days later, I'd contact them first.

Nah I already have. I got them to cancel it a few days ago as they told me they sent out the last ones on Saturday and wouldn't get any in stock for around 2 weeks but they hadn't even had confirmation from audio technica yet.
post #23163 of 32896
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I'm also considering selling my AD900X and purchasing the Philips X1. Does anyone have any input on that?

 

Here's some impressions I gave another via PM:

 

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They are both awesome headphones. Both are incredibly comfortable, although I might give the slight edge to the X1's in that departement (they stay firmly on the head, whereas the AD900X's can slide around a bit).

 

SQ wise, it really comes down to what is more important to you. Bass = X1. Mids = AD900X.

 

Bass: X1 by a fair margin. Great bass. Adds weight and fullness. I love the X1's for trance and electronic music, and also music like Two Steps from Hell, because that seems to have a lot of low end stuff going on as well. The bass on the AD900X is nice though, especially when paired with an amp like the Fiio E12. If I hadn't heard the X1's, I'd be happy with the bass of the AD900X.

 

Mids & Highs: mids more forward in the AD900X. Highs more elevated in the AD900X. Never gets sibilant, but can sometimes get a bit "honky". The X1's are a bit more V shaped, so the mids sound more recessed in comparison, but they don't actually sound recessed to me. The highs of the X1's are still detailed, but not as prominent (which works a bit better for me). The X1's make for a more fun and less fatiguing listen. Where I really like the AD900X though is for vocals and movies due to the mids being more forward.

 

Soundstage & imaging: AD900X seem wider. The X1's seem not as wide, but deeper and more layered, probably due to their more V-like signature. The imaging of instruments is less precise with the AD900X.

 

I would have to say that overall for the music that I listen to (trance, electronic, rock, progressive rock) and for my preferences (ie more bass, not leaning towards brighter) I prefer the X1's. I never tire of them. But when I watch TV (ie vocal shows) and movies, I love the AD900X's because of the more forward mids and also the wider soundstage.

 

A couple more points:

 

- the X1's sound good off of either my C&C BH or Fiio E12 amp. The AD900X's sound good off of my E12 amp, but a bit to "loose" off of my C&C BH amp. So the X1's seem to sound good off of anything.

 

- the AD900X has a long, thick and non-replaceable cable. I won't get another headphone that doesn't have a replaceable cable.

 

- the X1 pads are non-replaceable. Although I don't think that I will ever get another headphone with non-replaceable pads, I am glad that this didn't stop me from getting the X1's. I did the sock mods to protect that pads, so hopefully that's good enough.

 

Regarding detail/clarity from listening to the 3min mark of this song...

 

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So that was interesting. I abc'd between the AD900X, X1 and Mikros 90 (which are very resolving).

 

They all seemed to have a lot of separation, clarity and detail. The main difference is that with the X1's, the piano and guitar are quieter. The details are there, but you have to listen more for them. With the AD900X's, the piano and guitar (and vocals) are more forward, so louder and more prominent, and the guitar really seems way over to the extreme right of the stage (very wide stage). It sounded awesome on all of the headphones, but I'd have to say that for that song, I found the AD900X's to be the most engaging.

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Just my $0.02,have the ML, don't have either of the others, but I do have the A900x, closed version of the AT. I tend to like closed more than open phones (in the minority here), liked them a lot. Haven't heard them in a while, put on Mikros or Shure 1540 when I listen over/on ear,(even the mighty Senn 650 fights for head time, and only gets it occasionally), but bass good, fun sound, think they can be had for relatively little these days. Not home, try to pull them out later and update.
Edited by doctorjazz - 3/16/14 at 12:25pm
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They're inexpensive, anyone know anything about them?
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They're inexpensive, anyone know anything about them?

exactly! Like them pistons!

 

I hope an owner of these earphones can chime in.

 

Will take a look at your music library that you posted here, I have a lot to catch up! :D Dang work keeping me away from music.

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Are you referring to the Harman Kardon earphones being inexpensive and if anyone's tried them?
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Yup!!!
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They're Harman Kardon NI headphones and I used to own a set. They're the most solidly built in-ears I've owned. The problem is, they're not very comfortable due to the shape, they have piercing highs and minimal bass with little punch. The worst part was the almost non-existent mids. The cord is quite thick for in-ears but retains memory (I was never able to get the cord from curling/coiling).

For build quality, they'll last a long time. For sound quality, I think they're are much better ways to spend $20.
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OK, (...drumroll please...) some Dogwalk Discoveries!!

Kinda punk rock, like the time shifts, haven't listened to the rest of the CD much, can't comment but liked listening to this on the walk (when things get this upbeat, poor Ozzie, my pooch, has to walk much faster)


Lovely acapella..

Fun, ipod listed as "unknown", didn't remember, found on Youtube, like this a lot...


One of those voices you'll either love or hate...I love it, moves me, ymmv,

Speaking of voices you'll either love or hate (you know what side I'm on...)

One of the problems with posting jazz is that I almost never find the studio track I was listening to. If I find the piece at all, it is usually a different live performance, often of questionable sound. So if I use it at all, I generally have to substitute something else by the same artist that has the same/similar effect/sound (I had wanted to post Ben Goldberg How to Do Things with Tears from Subatomic Homesick Blues, found a poor sounding live version, take my word, it's really good!
This wasn't the Randy Weston I heard either, but it should do...



OK, enough, until next dog walk...
post #23172 of 32896
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They're Harman Kardon NI headphones and I used to own a set. They're the most solidly built in-ears I've owned. The problem is, they're not very comfortable due to the shape, they have piercing highs and minimal bass with little punch. The worst part was the almost non-existent mids. The cord is quite thick for in-ears but retains memory (I was never able to get the cord from curling/coiling).

For build quality, they'll last a long time. For sound quality, I think they're are much better ways to spend $20.

But, tell me, do you like them?
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But, tell me, do you like them?

I did not. I wanted to, but not much to them but treble. Terrible, non-existent mids, weak bass and sibilant treble . Not a good combo.
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I did not. I wanted to, but not much to them but treble. Terrible, non-existent mids, weak bass and sibilant treble . Not a good combo.

No more hyping those then, lol. :tongue:

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OK, (...drumroll please...) some Dogwalk Discoveries!!
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Kinda punk rock, like the time shifts, haven't listened to the rest of the CD much, can't comment but liked listening to this on the walk (when things get this upbeat, poor Ozzie, my pooch, has to walk much faster)


Lovely acapella..

Fun, ipod listed as "unknown", didn't remember, found on Youtube, like this a lot...


One of those voices you'll either love or hate...I love it, moves me, ymmv,

Speaking of voices you'll either love or hate (you know what side I'm on...)

One of the problems with posting jazz is that I almost never find the studio track I was listening to. If I find the piece at all, it is usually a different live performance, often of questionable sound. So if I use it at all, I generally have to substitute something else by the same artist that has the same/similar effect/sound (I had wanted to post Ben Goldberg How to Do Things with Tears from Subatomic Homesick Blues, found a poor sounding live version, take my word, it's really good!
This wasn't the Randy Weston I heard either, but it should do...



OK, enough, until next dog walk...

 

Thanks for those tunes, can't wait to hear my them when I return home!


Edited by vlenbo - 3/16/14 at 6:34pm
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