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post #22051 of 32910
Well with nearly 50 hours burn in on the TE-50 I've discovered these can become a reference bass monster with the right tips. The MA750 single-flanges, for example, brings out major sub bass without obscuring the mids or highs. But no iem is perfect. The Fostex doesn't isolate well enough to be an out and about iem.
post #22052 of 32910

Some comparisons for Leo or anyone else who is interested.  Thought I'd throw the TE-05's into the mix with the Heaven V and Cardas because the Cardas sticks out like a sore thumb out of the three.  

 

Bass:  Cardas is really thick.  A mix of sub-bass and mid-bass.  Doesn't sound as controlled as the other two.  TE-05 has more sub-bass over the V's.  V's have more mid-bass.  Both the V and 05 have nice controlled bass, Cardas has control but not like the other two.  I definitely prefer the TE-05 and V in the bass department.  Can't pick which one I like more but the TE-05 might get the nod in bass.  

 

Vocals:  All three have nice vocals.  Can't really tell which one has is the most forward since all three are not recessed in any way.  Bass does protrude into the Cardas which gives more heft to the voices and adds a nice element to male vocals.  V's are in between the two and TE-05's are on the airer side which gives female vocals star treatment.  V's do well with both and I would give the nod to the V's for vocals followed by the TE-05 a close second.  Cardas still is strong on the vocals though.

 

Treble:  Cardas sounds more laid back than the other two but is just as detailed.  V's and TE-05's have really nice sparkly treble.  Can't tell which one extends more or less.  The TE-05's sound slightly thinner in treble but I don't hear this as being bad.  Both portray treble amongst the best I've heard.  Very detailed without a hint of harshness but the TE-05's get closer to that amount.  

 

All three do a great job of surrounding the music all around you.  The TE-05's seem bigger due to that really airy treble and is the least thick sounding of the three.  The V's can pick out all notes the best since it's tuned quite equally all around.  All three are really good in this department.  

 

My preferences are the V's and TE-05's of the three at this point.  The Cardas is still a keeper for me but will be used sparingly because of the thickness of the sound.  The bass of the TE-05's are absolutely amazing because it hits the low notes without any bleed and is strong.  V's are tight and has that mid-bass bump but not offending mid-bass.  Cardas just has big bass to my ears compared to the other two.  

post #22053 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

Some comparisons for Leo or anyone else who is interested.  Thought I'd throw the TE-05's into the mix with the Heaven V and Cardas because the Cardas sticks out like a sore thumb out of the three.  

Bass:  Cardas is really thick.  A mix of sub-bass and mid-bass.  Doesn't sound as controlled as the other two.  TE-05 has more sub-bass over the V's.  V's have more mid-bass.  Both the V and 05 have nice controlled bass, Cardas has control but not like the other two.  I definitely prefer the TE-05 and V in the bass department.  Can't pick which one I like more but the TE-05 might get the nod in bass.  

Vocals:  All three have nice vocals.  Can't really tell which one has is the most forward since all three are not recessed in any way.  Bass does protrude into the Cardas which gives more heft to the voices and adds a nice element to male vocals.  V's are in between the two and TE-05's are on the airer side which gives female vocals star treatment.  V's do well with both and I would give the nod to the V's for vocals followed by the TE-05 a close second.  Cardas still is strong on the vocals though.

Treble:  Cardas sounds more laid back than the other two but is just as detailed.  V's and TE-05's have really nice sparkly treble.  Can't tell which one extends more or less.  The TE-05's sound slightly thinner in treble but I don't hear this as being bad.  Both portray treble amongst the best I've heard.  Very detailed without a hint of harshness but the TE-05's get closer to that amount.  

All three do a great job of surrounding the music all around you.  The TE-05's seem bigger due to that really airy treble and is the least thick sounding of the three.  The V's can pick out all notes the best since it's tuned quite equally all around.  All three are really good in this department.  

My preferences are the V's and TE-05's of the three at this point.  The Cardas is still a keeper for me but will be used sparingly because of the thickness of the sound.  The bass of the TE-05's are absolutely amazing because it hits the low notes without any bleed and is strong.  V's are tight and has that mid-bass bump but not offending mid-bass.  Cardas just has big bass to my ears compared to the other two.  


X2....nice DannyBai. I agree with pretty much everything stated. Let me add that the TE-05 is one fast dynamic driver! It was slamming Foo Fighters' Rope. I've also did some slight comparison of the TE-05 and the Doppios. The Doppios' vocals surpasses the TE-05 on many recordings. Just more natural, but the Fostex vocals are still great. Of course, TE-05 wins in bass, but the Doppios have very good bass that can go deep too. Some great earphones out that are really competing with each other. Can't say which is better. Really difficult.
post #22054 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

Some comparisons for Leo or anyone else who is interested.  Thought I'd throw the TE-05's into the mix with the Heaven V and Cardas because the Cardas sticks out like a sore thumb out of the three.  

 

Bass:  Cardas is really thick.  A mix of sub-bass and mid-bass.  Doesn't sound as controlled as the other two.  TE-05 has more sub-bass over the V's.  V's have more mid-bass.  Both the V and 05 have nice controlled bass, Cardas has control but not like the other two.  I definitely prefer the TE-05 and V in the bass department.  Can't pick which one I like more but the TE-05 might get the nod in bass.  

 

Vocals:  All three have nice vocals.  Can't really tell which one has is the most forward since all three are not recessed in any way.  Bass does protrude into the Cardas which gives more heft to the voices and adds a nice element to male vocals.  V's are in between the two and TE-05's are on the airer side which gives female vocals star treatment.  V's do well with both and I would give the nod to the V's for vocals followed by the TE-05 a close second.  Cardas still is strong on the vocals though.

 

Treble:  Cardas sounds more laid back than the other two but is just as detailed.  V's and TE-05's have really nice sparkly treble.  Can't tell which one extends more or less.  The TE-05's sound slightly thinner in treble but I don't hear this as being bad.  Both portray treble amongst the best I've heard.  Very detailed without a hint of harshness but the TE-05's get closer to that amount.  

 

All three do a great job of surrounding the music all around you.  The TE-05's seem bigger due to that really airy treble and is the least thick sounding of the three.  The V's can pick out all notes the best since it's tuned quite equally all around.  All three are really good in this department.  

 

My preferences are the V's and TE-05's of the three at this point.  The Cardas is still a keeper for me but will be used sparingly because of the thickness of the sound.  The bass of the TE-05's are absolutely amazing because it hits the low notes without any bleed and is strong.  V's are tight and has that mid-bass bump but not offending mid-bass.  Cardas just has big bass to my ears compared to the other two.  


^ HYPED!!! Can't wait to hear those TE-05s cuz your impressions has me salivating them them already. haha :triportsad:

post #22055 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

Some comparisons for Leo or anyone else who is interested.  Thought I'd throw the TE-05's into the mix with the Heaven V and Cardas because the Cardas sticks out like a sore thumb out of the three.  

Bass:  Cardas is really thick.  A mix of sub-bass and mid-bass.  Doesn't sound as controlled as the other two.  TE-05 has more sub-bass over the V's.  V's have more mid-bass.  Both the V and 05 have nice controlled bass, Cardas has control but not like the other two.  I definitely prefer the TE-05 and V in the bass department.  Can't pick which one I like more but the TE-05 might get the nod in bass.  

Vocals:  All three have nice vocals.  Can't really tell which one has is the most forward since all three are not recessed in any way.  Bass does protrude into the Cardas which gives more heft to the voices and adds a nice element to male vocals.  V's are in between the two and TE-05's are on the airer side which gives female vocals star treatment.  V's do well with both and I would give the nod to the V's for vocals followed by the TE-05 a close second.  Cardas still is strong on the vocals though.

Treble:  Cardas sounds more laid back than the other two but is just as detailed.  V's and TE-05's have really nice sparkly treble.  Can't tell which one extends more or less.  The TE-05's sound slightly thinner in treble but I don't hear this as being bad.  Both portray treble amongst the best I've heard.  Very detailed without a hint of harshness but the TE-05's get closer to that amount.  

All three do a great job of surrounding the music all around you.  The TE-05's seem bigger due to that really airy treble and is the least thick sounding of the three.  The V's can pick out all notes the best since it's tuned quite equally all around.  All three are really good in this department.  

My preferences are the V's and TE-05's of the three at this point.  The Cardas is still a keeper for me but will be used sparingly because of the thickness of the sound.  The bass of the TE-05's are absolutely amazing because it hits the low notes without any bleed and is strong.  V's are tight and has that mid-bass bump but not offending mid-bass.  Cardas just has big bass to my ears compared to the other two.  

Thanks Danny for the in depth impressions. Very informative and will stick with the V for now. Fostex or Cardas will have to wait though.
post #22056 of 32910
An excellent choice Leo. Please share your thoughts when you get them.
post #22057 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

 

You are right Eric, the Fostex has one of the fastest dynamic drivers I've ever heard. Didn't really think about that until you mentioned it. Armature quality to the sound.

 

I think you will like one or the other for sure sf. If not, you need to get your ears checked.

^ You better hope not cuz you ain't getting them back if i do. hoho :ksc75smile:

post #22058 of 32910
What the hell, lol. The fruit phone is buggy then.
post #22059 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

What the hell, lol. The fruit phone is buggy then.


^ Pissssh fruit users/ abusers just can't trust them. :tongue:

 

C'mon meng get with that PC swagga'. :cool:

 

It NEVER fails. :ph34r:

 

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Just virused. haha
post #22060 of 32910
Thread Starter 

So I have a question to ask you guys. The IM03 or the FX850??

 

One of these is going to be my Bday gift for myself. I need to wait n see how the JVCs are gonna be..

 

Oh by the way for guys that own the AD900X or the AD line in general. I have a feeling the IM03 is gonna be about as close to that airy sound as your gonna get in an iem. Just a gut feeling but that is why I am very curious about the IM03. Then there is the new JVC FX850. Another gut feeling I have but the FX750 for $100 less could be the dark horse of the new FX phones. Somehow I think perhaps that upgraded silver coated detachable cable is what is really driving the price up. The cable alone will mean slightly more detail and extension but I bet the stock sound without that cable is gonna be fine the way it is. I suppose we will find out all in due time. 

 

JVC is funny because more expensive don't mean it is a better sound with them. For example I took out my old FXDs today and it has been a while since I heard both phones but I have to admit the FXD70 is the better sounding phone over the FXD80. Both are still fun to listen to but the FXD70 sounds freaking great out of the X3 so much so it clearly was showing me that I preferred the FXD70. The FXD80 still sounds great and is more technical of the two but the FXD70s better balanced and slightly more forward mids won me over..I think I prefer it over the CKN70 as well..

 

So what it is..IM03 or the FX850??


Edited by Dsnuts - 2/18/14 at 11:31pm
post #22061 of 32910
Fx850😎...its my birthday today 😊
post #22062 of 32910
Why not the IM02? Supposedly the best value in the lineup
post #22063 of 32910
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

An excellent choice Leo. Please share your thoughts when you get them.

Will try to do so Danny. Hopefully my friend can pick one up for me or I might have to go thru Amazon. Anyway, i don't think i'm good at writing up an impression like you guys. Nevertheless, will try.
post #22064 of 32910

Just got my Sony EX650 and listening - very solid bass, quite big but tight and controlled, and I expect it will get a bit more so with further hours. One factor in my purchase was also the ergonomic aspect, and it absolutely lives up to my hopes in that department: light, comfortable and forgettable once in. Similar to the RE400, but without the slight tendency towards vacuum thanks to the angled nozzles. Came to about $100 with the customs added.

post #22065 of 32910
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Why not the IM02? Supposedly the best value in the lineup


nehcrow, please check your msgs, before you miss the offer of a life time. 

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